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Randler posted:Herbert Grönemeyer, den Älteren im Thread durch seine Hymne an die Currywurst bekannt, hat sich auf einem Konzert in Österreich deutlich gegen das rechte Spektrum gestellt und schon rotiert bei den Altherren der Haarkranz. Apparently someone compared him to Goebbels because of that? I've been refusing all day to investigate further
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https://twitter.com/bernd_stegemann/status/1172833076159877120?s=09
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quote:Auf Twitter wird diese Szene, die als Video gepostet wurde, diskutiert. Während einige Nutzer ihm zustimmen („Er hat die Wahrheit gesagt.“), rügen andere den Duktus des Sängers. „Der Tonfall, mit dem Grönemeyer sein Publikum politische anheizt, macht ein wenig Angst“, twitterte der deutsche Autor Bernd Stegemann. Der Unterstützer der linken Sammlungsbewegung „Aufstehen“ fügte an: „Ich sags ungern, aber er klingt wie ein Redner vor 1945.“ Are you loving kidding me
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Sep 15, 2019 19:14
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Die "linke Sammlungsbewegung" in Österreich hat anscheinend ein Orientierungsproblem
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Sep 15, 2019 19:16
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Die "linke Sammlungsbewegung" in Österreich hat anscheinend ein Orientierungsproblem Who is that then?
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Sep 15, 2019 19:21
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Die "linke Sammlungsbewegung" in Österreich hat anscheinend ein Orientierungsproblem "Aufstehen" ist deutsch
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Sep 15, 2019 19:27
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genericnick posted:Who is that then? I get that this is supposed to be funny, because lol ÖsterREICH, but if even a left-declared organization is calling anti-right commentary "problematic" because - and I quote - "it sounds like poo poo from '45", then I don't feel like laughing about it anymore.
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Sep 15, 2019 19:27
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Drone posted:Germany Discussion: Ich hab die Nerven nicht mehr für solchen ... hdfdg
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I get that this is supposed to be funny, because lol ÖsterREICH, but if even a left-declared organization is calling anti-right commentary "problematic" because - and I quote - "it sounds like poo poo from '45", then I don't feel like laughing about it anymore. Again, Aufstehen is literally a German leftist Sammelbewegung. It's that Sahra Wagenknecht thing that refuses to go away
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Sep 15, 2019 20:07
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Wir wollen aufstehn, aufeinander zugehn zu den Nazis nett sein, bloß niemanden ärgern
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Sep 15, 2019 20:53
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Didn’t Wagenknecht already throw in the towel on that one? I was like 99% sure that happened a couple minutes after that embarrassing moment when she wore a Gelbweste in front of the Reichstag
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Sep 15, 2019 21:49
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Germany discussion: Das war eine Entgleisung
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Sep 16, 2019 06:37
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1945: Kill all foreigners Grönemeyer 2019: Don't kill foreigners But, like, he used the same Tonfall, so no difference! 
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Sep 16, 2019 09:11
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Well, well well. Looks like Bernd Stegemann has to be added to my Big Bad List of Dumbasses. Aww poo poo, it's already full??? gently caress, now I need a new notebook. 
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Sep 16, 2019 09:53
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Gotta maintain that facade of decorum and civility while saying Nazis are bad, guys, fascism enablers will otherwise always find a way to be sympathetic.
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At least someone has a good take™: "Ein Popstar brüllt ins Publikum und wird mit Nazirednern verglichen. Das liegt auch daran, dass die Deutschen Faschismus zuerst als Form und nicht als Inhalt begreifen." quote:Wer gruppenbezogene Menschenfeindlichkeit nicht von der Feindschaft zur Gruppe der Menschenfeinde unterscheiden kann, dem bleibt nur der Tonfall als Unterscheidungsmerkmal zwischen dem Harmlosen und dem Gefährlichen.
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Sep 16, 2019 11:14
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Given that that dude wrote a whole article about what he actually meant with his tweet, and then put it behind a paywall, makes me think this was entirely calculated and he wanted people to yell at him so he'd get clicks. Edit: Man sieht auch in seiner Tweet-Historie dass er per Reply nur mit bekannten Persönlichkeiten agiert, er benutzt Twitter also nicht als Mensch, sondern nur als Firma. also free oliwan lol Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 16, 2019 |
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Sep 16, 2019 19:20
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Mithaldu posted:also free oliwan lol Nah But also sticksy posted:Shut up oliwan Nottherealaborn posted:Even when right, Oliwan really is the worst Still B.A.E posted:Stfu oliwan, jesus quote:Even when you’re right do you have to be such a loving piece of poo poo about it? Give it a rest. User loses posting privileges for 3 days.  Guess that Schiedsgericht did not go in his favor.
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Sep 16, 2019 19:30
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Von Schiedsgericht zu Scherbengericht: Die Geschichte des Oliwan jetzt als Sat1-Film-Film.
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Sep 16, 2019 19:32
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If the human being behind the Eckenlord-OpOpOp-performance-piece that is oliwan would shift their focus just a weeee bit towards the human being part (and hell, it's happened like once or twice easily in this very thread), that would be a huge improvement. Alas...
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Sep 16, 2019 20:13
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Though, to be fair, the Schiedsgericht story, the having-children story, and a selection of other stories also make it hard to have faith in said person behind the keyboard
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Sep 16, 2019 20:15
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"häh wieso ist der im Knast? was hat er denn verbrochen... ENGLISCHER FUßBALL???????"
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Sep 16, 2019 20:21
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So what did he do to earn the wrath of the mods?
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Sep 16, 2019 21:12
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Being oliwan is probatable in the Bung Piepit.
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Sep 16, 2019 21:23
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We're lucky the deutschthread gets the reasonable oliwan and not the footballoliwan basically
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Sep 16, 2019 21:27
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Ban the topic of soccer Fake edit: Playing it is still allowed, you are just not allowed to actually bring up the concept in verbal or text-based communication. All sports commentary on it shall from now on be entirely just making metaphors and such that are about what's going on without actually describing it.
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Sep 17, 2019 06:46
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Greader posted:Ban the topic of soccer Also metaphor commentary would be way more funny than the current style of commentary, that seems to be screaming names like in a porn.
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Sep 17, 2019 06:52
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Happy Litterbox posted:Also metaphor commentary would be way more funny than the current style of commentary, that seems to be screaming names like in a porn. Das runde muss in das Eckige 
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Sep 17, 2019 07:20
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I want to see a bunch of millionaires run, while a crowd surrounds them.
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Sep 17, 2019 07:51
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Randler posted:I want to see a bunch of millionaires run, while a crowd surrounds them. A very very hungry crowd slowly getting closer and closer?
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Sep 17, 2019 08:45
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xpost from SAL thread: I'm supposed to choose between the VBL Klassik or the VBL Extra pension plans... any tips? I might end up working here for 5 years but I'm not sure. (Started as a postdoc on Aug. 1st)
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Sep 17, 2019 10:44
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Sex/Age/LocationGreatest Living Man posted:I'm supposed to choose between the VBL Klassik or the VBL Extra pension plans... any tips? I might end up working here for 5 years but I'm not sure. Sounds like a Randler question maybe?
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Sep 17, 2019 11:38
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You don't choose between VBLklassik and VBLextra. You're in the former by law and may opt-in to the latter. VBLklassik is part of the pension insurance scheme for public employees as a result of the applicable collective bargaining agreement. Memberships and contributions to VBLklassik are mandatory for qualified employees and not something you opt-in to. VBLextra is an additional insurance scheme as part of the "betriebliche Altersvorsorge" and closer to the "Entgeltumwandlung" opportunities you would get in the private sector. Whether this is a good financial choice for you is a highly individual question to which the answer depens on a lot of different factors. Especially how much you expect to be your taxable income after the postdoc or if you expect to change back into the private sector or to leave Germany. That is too complex an issue to give tailored advice for in this forum. If you're lucky, Finanztip.de might have a somewhat up-to-date flowchart on whether or not it makes sense and what are the numerical breakpoints. In a very broad strokes kinda way, as long as you earn less than €54,450 € p.a. (West Germany) and your employer pays at least ~18-20% in addition to what you put into VBLextra (e.g. You pay €500, they pay €100) a contribution to VBLextra will probably be relatively close to a financially neutral transaction with maybe a very slight trend towards being a good idea in the long term. It'd probably not worth it in the short and medium-term, if you are already feel like you're short on money right now.
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Randler posted:You don't choose between VBLklassik and VBLextra. You're in the former by law and may opt-in to the latter. The brochure I got says that with the VBLextra the contributions would be 4% from my employer, and 0% from me. "VBLextra is a capital-funded occupational pension scheme. The contributions amount to 4.00 percent of your pensionable salary, paid solely by your employer. " whereas with VBLklassik I pay 1.41% and my employer pays 6.45%. So I'd get a 1.41% tax break each month in exchange for slightly less overall pension contribution from my employer?
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Greatest Living Man posted:The brochure I got says that with the VBLextra the contributions would be 4% from my employer, and 0% from me. "VBLextra is a capital-funded occupational pension scheme. The contributions amount to 4.00 percent of your pensionable salary, paid solely by your employer. " whereas with VBLklassik I pay 1.41% and my employer pays 6.45%. So I'd get a 1.41% tax break each month in exchange for slightly less overall pension contribution from my employer? The 1.41% would decrease your taxable income resulting in lower taxes. They would also decrease the amount of contributions made to the mandatory insurances (pension, healthcare, unemployment), so you're slightly reducing the what you get out of those insurance systems. If your employer pays money into a occuptational pension insurance without you yourself having to pay anything into it, that's basically free money and a good idea (in most cases).
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Randler posted:The 1.41% would decrease your taxable income resulting in lower taxes. They would also decrease the amount of contributions made to the mandatory insurances (pension, healthcare, unemployment), so you're slightly reducing the what you get out of those insurance systems.  I'll try to ask more HR people about it but it seems like the least annoying option is to just go for the klassik. Thanks for your explanations.
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Greatest Living Man posted:
Wait, are you an expat? Do you plan to stay in Germany? Cause it can be really hard to cash out of a private Rentenversicherung if you decide to move away one day. You can't cash out of gesetzliche at all(other than being a German boomer)
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GABA ghoul posted:You can't cash out of gesetzliche at all(other than being a German boomer) *laughs in Versorgungswerk*
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Most people have real jobs though, Randler. Doing actual work and important stuff(well, not me specifically. But a lot of other people)
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