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Optimus Subprime posted:these people tell on themselves when they write poetry with the lines “I’d rather die than work” while calling themselves marxists. they just want to be the bosses themselves. all the original marxists were massive party animals, if you think that having fun/enjoying excess is bad you have more in common with the anti-capitalist protestants who lived at the same time than you do with marx lol
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Venom Snake posted:all the original marxists were massive party animals, if you think that having fun/enjoying excess is bad you have more in common with the anti-capitalist protestants who lived at the same time than you do with marx lol the virgin tankie versus the chad marx
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Nov 13, 2019 20:08
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a spooky spectre is haunting cspam: Listen I'm a tall and mildly attractive gay man
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Nov 13, 2019 20:09
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im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels
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Nov 13, 2019 20:10
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Venom Snake posted:a spooky spectre is haunting cspam: Listen I'm a tall and mildly attractive gay man if a cadre of US leninists started their communiques this way, i'd be willing to drop my distrust of micro-sect ML parties and hear them out
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Nov 13, 2019 20:12
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Finicums Wake posted:if a cadre of US leninists started their communiques this way, i'd be willing to drop my distrust of micro-sect ML parties and hear them out im fairly sure tall and mildly attractive gay man describes 50% or more of c-spam posters.
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Marxism, even “authoritarian” permutations, is fundamentally a humanist philosophy oriented towards maximizing the experiential diversity of proletarian lives and is thus inherently already reconciled with drugs and sex. it’s the capitalist context of commoditization and inequality that make them decadent
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels let's compromise and say not letting professional photographers document your illegal partying is the correct line unless it's some sort of strategic political strategy
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels no one said no drinking and no drugs but going to a coke orgy in NYC is peak bourgie behavior
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Nov 13, 2019 20:33
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Optimus Subprime posted:these people tell on themselves when they write poetry with the lines “I’d rather die than work” while calling themselves marxists. they just want to be the bosses themselves. i'll support any ideology that lets me be a neet
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Nov 13, 2019 20:37
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Venom Snake posted:enjoying excess If you have excess to enjoy then you're bourgeois by definition
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Enjoy posted:If you have excess to enjoy then you're bourgeois by definition 
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this thread right now https://twitter.com/newsweek/status/1194668808327376902?s=21
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Nov 13, 2019 20:43
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I only do k, and that is after I've made sure the horses have gotten theirs.
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Nov 13, 2019 20:45
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Venom Snake posted:im fairly sure tall and mildly attractive gay man describes 50% or more of c-spam posters. 50% tall and mildly attractive gay men 30% transgender communists 15% gamers 5% straight and married (booooooo)
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Nov 13, 2019 20:56
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels yeah ok buddy, it’s not like any of us can’t see your post history from 2016 and prior it’s an absurd contradiction to advocate Marxism and claim membership of the working class if you refuse to work cause labor is the core of the entire theory of a self sustaining class
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels you may not have been referring to my statement, but just so we're clear, it's the fact that rich kid libertines are playing at being leftists that chafes me, not that people are having a good time. in fact it's primarily been my comrades in organizing who have been my connections for the times I've experimented with substances beyond weed, and as for sex, well, I will only say that I am very happy to have lived in an era of humanity where PrEP exists, and that where I presently live, that it is covered by statutory insurance. as a communist I think we should be prying the patents and formulae for such things from the cold, dead hands of pharmaceutical executives so we can all be sluts without the specter of death (or with modern medicine, at the very least a reduced quality of life) haunting us
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Mr. Lobe posted:as a communist I think we should be prying the patents and formulae for such things from the cold, dead hands of pharmaceutical executives so we can all be sluts without the specter of death (or with modern medicine, at the very least a reduced quality of life) haunting us Dr. Alexander Shulgin prepared quite the texts for the world before he passed on 
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yeah to me the biggest affront is how bad the poetry sucked
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Venom Snake posted:all the original marxists were massive party animals, if you think that having fun/enjoying excess is bad you have more in common with the anti-capitalist protestants who lived at the same time than you do with marx lol Marx contributed immeasurably to the liberation of mankind by his intellectual work. He also got drunk and rowdy, which is all well and good. These bourgie fuckos are of absolutely zero use for anything and would absolutely side with reaction rather than give up their privileged-rear end lifestyle. So if we gonna go back in history you dumbshits who are all "well I don't see nothing wrong here" are literally defending the equivalent of 19th century Russian nobility conspicuously consuming the filthy lucre that they robbed from the people while putting on pseudo-intellectual airs and declaring themselves to actually be the best friends of those they're sucking dry, and if you can't see why this should be absolutely enraging then you're not a leftist period and need to shut the gently caress up ya liberal. Or to borrow the words of a dude who knew his stuff: Lenin posted:The intellectual forces of the workers and peasants are
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Cerebral Bore posted:So if we gonna go back in history you dumbshits who are all "well I don't see nothing wrong here" are literally defending the equivalent of 19th century Russian nobility conspicuously consuming the filthy lucre that they robbed from the people while putting on pseudo-intellectual airs and declaring themselves to actually be the best friends of those they're sucking dry this is literally one of the main plot lines of "War and Peace"
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels
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Venom Snake posted:im pretty much 100% politically a tankie but all the people who think that doing no drugs, never drinking, and never partying makes them more "Ideologically Correct" are the leftist version of incels I just think slamming together an article and pretending there's deep meaning to it transitions it into loser poo poo lol
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Im slamming down diet cokes, so I can be class conscious even longer.
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Leftist Drug Orgy is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In Leftist Drug Orgy you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the Leftist Drug Orgy motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
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hanging out at the orgy where everyone looks like the brainiac-looking guy from that one 4chan meme
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Raskolnikov38 posted:no one said no drinking and no drugs but going to a coke orgy in NYC is peak bourgie behavior marx would have gone to the coke orgy uninvited by tagging along with engels. he would then have gotten them both kicked out by starting a coked up argument with someone he hated
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marxism is entirely irrelevant to these people, it's just another edgy way to substitute for having no worthwhile thoughts or personality. 200 years ago, these same people would have had a satanist themed drug orgy instead. imagine being rich like these people are, and then bragging about having hosed this name-brand chicken toy to the reporter you invited to your event, as if it was some sort of accomplishment. 
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fabergay egg posted:marx would have gone to the coke orgy uninvited by tagging along with engels. he would then have gotten them both kicked out by starting a coked up argument with someone he hated didn't Marx have a skin condition he was very self-conscious about? it's hard to imagine him at an orgy
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Mr. Lobe posted:didn't Marx have a skin condition he was very self-conscious about? it's hard to imagine him at an orgy are you thinking of marat?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:are you thinking of marat? nah, I'm thinking of marx https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/marxs-skin-problems/article696821/
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Mr. Lobe posted:didn't Marx have a skin condition he was very self-conscious about? it's hard to imagine him at an orgy this party sucks can't wait to go home and screw the maid my feet hurt
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Mr. Lobe posted:didn't Marx have a skin condition he was very self-conscious about? it's hard to imagine him at an orgy it’s how he got his name
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fabergay egg posted:marx would have gone to the coke orgy uninvited by tagging along with engels. he would then have gotten them both kicked out by starting a coked up argument with someone he hated want to read that/those letter/s
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smarxist posted:i wish it was easier for everyone to not give a gently caress about what someone says they believe if the consequences of their lifestyle and choices are ultimately really lovely for themselves personally, their peers, and the people they may influence its p easy for me to not care on a like, personal level, but personally i would rather weed these people out now than have to deal with them down the road. especially because they're probably stupid enough to be able to be shouted off the internet
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loving each other and doing lines is whatever, the real problem is the rightward pressure these dilettantes are going to exert on the movement if they're able to establish themselves as bona fide leftists. They don't believe in anything or have any real commitments, but if they get the brand right then they've got a long career ahead of them as guest speakers, celebrity organizers etc.
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Victory Position posted:5% straight and married (booooooo) im sorry im sorry im trying to fix it 
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Optimus Subprime posted:yeah ok buddy, it’s not like any of us can’t see your post history from 2016 and prior what does my posting from 2016 prior have to do with marx being a biggo goon who hated working and loved partying. engels was p much the same but he came from wealth so he ended up being able to support his and marx's habits lol. Mr. Lobe posted:you may not have been referring to my statement, but just so we're clear, it's the fact that rich kid libertines are playing at being leftists that chafes me, not that people are having a good time. in fact it's primarily been my comrades in organizing who have been my connections for the times I've experimented with substances beyond weed, and as for sex, well, I will only say that I am very happy to have lived in an era of humanity where PrEP exists, and that where I presently live, that it is covered by statutory insurance. I understand, what I mostly take issue with is that the line of logic that being able to do weird dumb parties is inherently bad, rather than the fact whats bad is that essentially it's a luxury on a certain class of leftist can enjoy because they where born into wealth. It's a dynamic that's existed as long as socialists have existed. BrutalistMcDonalds posted:sure yeah. but i think there's this current on the left that doing drugs and partying is somehow a political thing to do, which is a bunch of nonsense if you ask me. i think people drink the booze and do the drugs because they want to do it. but no one here has to justify what they do -- it's fine. but i've seen a weird case where an anarchist got pinched on drug charges and got locked up, and his group took to fundraising for him (naturally) but had to present the whole thing like he was a political prisoner rather than being a fuckup who got locked up because he kept missing his court dates My original post before I decided not too because I thought it was to antagonizing was quote:The funniest thing here is goons finding a way to be even more performative in their outrage than the ultra-performative people in the article they are mad about essentially that for some what gives them their bonafide socialist credentials (unlike those other running dogs)......is just that they hate the bougie socialists and their cringey poo poo
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