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Dr.Radical posted:What happens if you’re at one of his campaign staff meetings and you refuse to do the dance? 
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Wonkette still exists, and is selling candidate merch. https://twitter.com/kath_krueger/status/1202724719881064449?s=20
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Watching episode 4 of The Mandalorian. Trying desperately hard not to hate it.
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The Kingfish posted:Watching episode 4 of The Mandalorian. Trying desperately hard not to hate it. it sucks
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It’s almost unwatchable.
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It's weird how good the production design is compared to the borderline incompetence of the direction.
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The Kingfish posted:Watching episode 4 of The Mandalorian. Trying desperately hard not to hate it. You know you don't gotta watch media you don't want to, right? Nobody is going to make you watch a star wars
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1202407747305820161 Why ever leave social conservatives alone when you can just stamp out conservatism entirely, honestly? What do I gain from letting some racist gently caress proselytize instead of just making it so he never gets to spread his views for fear of getting arrested
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young matt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwqnR327fk
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Lol if you didn't give up on Star Wars years ago
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big boi posted:Lol if you didn't give up on Star Wars years ago This. Just lmao at giving Disney any money for that dogshit.
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Felix as an Arsenal fan is very funny but also I don’t understand why it’s a thing at all
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I think it's entirely because he likes saying gooners.
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peanut- posted:Felix as an Arsenal fan is very funny but also I don’t understand why it’s a thing at all
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Dec 6, 2019 12:51
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Any opportunity to make fun of the Brits is great. 
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Dr Christmas posted:Is it just me or is the audio skipping really often this episode? I redownloaded it and it didn’t help. i was just thinking about how amazingly quick senile joe knocked diamond joe out of our minds
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Dec 6, 2019 16:03
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Let em win the culture war.
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the hunter biden bit is bad, but they're having fun with it
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Serf posted:the hunter biden bit is bad, but they're having fun with it Agreed.
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SunAndSpring posted:Why ever leave social conservatives alone when you can just stamp out conservatism entirely, honestly? What do I gain from letting some racist gently caress proselytize instead of just making it so he never gets to spread his views for fear of getting arrested I can see an argument for convincing racists, sexists, various deplorables etc. to at least vote in their class interests for a labor populist type (who wouldn't explicitly extend their politics into social equality) to secure a more collectivist economic system for one's country because it'd be better to fight for social justice in an economic climate like that, yes even a racist one, rather than doing it while mired in capitalist oppression. I know it's not that cut and dry, but at least some percentage of racism and sexist oppression is rooted in capitalism perpetuating it. The problem with that is it's not like you can argue racism out of existence- those people either need to come to reality or die. But maybe a more secure and just economic system could move that balance a little.
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Halloween Jack posted:Uh, no, that's a bad idea. Yeah that's why that was a sarcastic joke aking fun of Amber's dumb take since it's literally the opposite of what I was saying in my posts about the topic yesterday you goon.
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UP AND ADAM posted:I can see an argument for convincing racists, sexists, various deplorables etc. to at least vote in their class interests for a labor populist type (who wouldn't explicitly extend their politics into social equality) to secure a more collectivist economic system for one's country because it'd be better to fight for social justice in an economic climate like that, yes even a racist one, rather than doing it while mired in capitalist oppression. I know it's not that cut and dry, but at least some percentage of racism and sexist oppression is rooted in capitalism perpetuating it. The problem with that is it's not like you can argue racism out of existence- those people either need to come to reality or die. But maybe a more secure and just economic system could move that balance a little. 
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah that's why that was a sarcastic joke aking fun of Amber's dumb take since it's literally the opposite of what I was saying in my posts about the topic yesterday you goon. SunAndSpring posted:Why ever leave social conservatives alone when you can just stamp out conservatism entirely, honestly? What do I gain from letting some racist gently caress proselytize instead of just making it so he never gets to spread his views for fear of getting arrested
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I'm saying in strictly conceptual terms, the fight would be easier in a collectivist country than in an individualist one. I don't think it's realistic to pick and choose progressive political advancements because that's not how it works, so I disagree with Amber, but I'm saying that could be where she's coming from.
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peanut- posted:Felix as an Arsenal fan is very funny but also I don’t understand why it’s a thing at all of all clubs of the country, hell, of London even, he had to pick up *them* when there is a West Ham perfectly there as a sensible workingman's choice (also Corbyn is an Arsenal fan too)
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Jeremy Corbyn's one fault is that he's an Arsenal fan.
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:Jeremy Corbyn's one fault is that he's an Arsenal fan. well think about it, he had to get that resilience to fight for socialism and go against bad labour from somewhere
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Felix being an Arsenal fan certainly explains part of his nihilistic fatalism. Watching them this year makes me want to drive my car into a wall too.
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https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1202991769509646338
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UP AND ADAM posted:I can see an argument for convincing racists, sexists, various deplorables etc. to at least vote in their class interests for a labor populist type (who wouldn't explicitly extend their politics into social equality) to secure a more collectivist economic system for one's country because it'd be better to fight for social justice in an economic climate like that, yes even a racist one, rather than doing it while mired in capitalist oppression. I know it's not that cut and dry, but at least some percentage of racism and sexist oppression is rooted in capitalism perpetuating it. The problem with that is it's not like you can argue racism out of existence- those people either need to come to reality or die. But maybe a more secure and just economic system could move that balance a little. I also think that the very act of stuggling together with minorities to secure better conditions for everyone would soften at least some of the racism and sexism that some people hold. Its certainly not universally true but a lot of people's hangups would fade away if they remember the nice black people and women that got mee-maw healthcare.
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The general idea Amber et al are getting at is that if you can get at a bigot by appealing to their class interests, you can use that as a wedge, once you've shown you were right about class consciousness and gotten them to reconsider their class interests, to get them to reconsider their bigotry. How well this works is highly up for debate.
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Yeah exactly. Another problem though is people's (the white majority populace at least) minds are clouded about class issues in much the same way as race issues. So how do you get some 1776-loving boomer to accept the materialist critique of the system their kids or whatever are growing up in, and once they are upset, how the solution lies in worker solidarity and big structural Bailey.
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You change the structural organization of society. Culture is an expression of that organization: change the way society is built, and you change the culture in that society.
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You could excuse minority groups for hearing that as 'just wait until we've won all of our hardest victories, fundamentally changed the structure of the economy and broken the power of Capital: then we can get round to talking about your rights'
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Halloween Jack posted:You didn't discuss that topic in this thread yesterday, and I don't know what you're trying to say. Here you go dumbass. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Those people are still terminally online though and that doesnt address the whole "No when they say culture war they mean things like 'Trans and gay panic are perfectly fine legal defenses and in fact should be national law' which I'm p. Sure is a Rod article
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Hey, here's somebody being a total piece of poo poo. https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1203002830329712641
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