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Norton the First posted:I don't think that's fair to Wilder. Getting there first is very much part of the game, it's not reasonable to say that for whatever reason Ortiz got there second. "Whatever reason" can include a thing that Wilder did to set it up.
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CommonShore posted:"Whatever reason" can include a thing that Wilder did to set it up. Fair enough.
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Wilder/Fury 2 is supposedly set for February 22nd. Expect a Super Bowl ad. On the other big heavyweight fight: It's still hard to say what's going to happen in the Joshua/Ruiz rematch. Joshua clearly has the better attributes, but Ruiz beat the poo poo out of him in their first fight. It sounds like Joshua is trying to come in quite a bit lighter, which is also a bit alarming. It's not clear where his head is at after catching such a sustained beating. It feels weird to assume Joshua wins this fight, but like most people, I am currently assuming that. If Ruiz wins though, in retrospect it will have seemed inevitable. Their first fight felt more like Wladimir Klitschko/Corrie Sanders than Lennox Lewis/Hasim Rahman. I'm thinking Joshua wins, but I'm not confident about it. The outcome of Wilder/Fury 2 is equally up in the air. It's a good time for the heavyweight division.
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I think I’ve actually been seeing more people online say Ruiz wins? Or at least they were in the months after the first fight, maybe there’s been a comedown since. For me, I think Joshua underestimated Ruiz the first time, which is not a mistake he’ll make twice. Joshua basically never recovered from that one shot that rocked him and I while I give all the credit to Ruiz for landing it, I think it came off of Joshua getting way over eager off the knockdown.
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As of right now, it seems like a lot of people are still hoping to see Wilder v. Joshua. If Ruiz wins this rematch, would it take a decisive win by Fury in February for this to even possibly be on the table for 2020? How much of the Wilder/Joshua hype was riding on title unification?
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I was so salty about the result of AJ-Ruiz 1 that I still haven't watched it lol. I don't even particularly like Joshua, and Ruiz seems like a good dude, I guess I just wanted the hype of Joshua v Wilder as a unification fight between two undefeated massive punchers. Ortiz boxed absolutely beautifully against Wilder, and for him to be blown away by one punch is a real shame for him. Wilder showing that it'll take something really special to shut him out completely for 12 rounds though.
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Still B.A.E posted:I was so salty about the result of AJ-Ruiz 1 that I still haven't watched it lol. I don't even particularly like Joshua, and Ruiz seems like a good dude, I guess I just wanted the hype of Joshua v Wilder as a unification fight between two undefeated massive punchers. Fury doesn’t have the goods to knock Wilder out either and I don’t think he’ll box as nicely as Ortiz. It’s a dubious proposition, but if he can take it the distance he should win. Ruiz is far more interesting to watch than Joshua, who I’ve never found particularly convincing; I’d much rather watch a chubby guy with quick hands annoying Wilder and Fury, honestly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4 AJ says Ruiz wins 9/10 times, which is an odd thing to say instead of saying 1/10. Not a good sign for his mental toughness.
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willie_dee posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOXFH0f9kp4 Was that a gaffe or is he seriously trudging dutifully towards the gallows to be embarrassed by a funny looking fat guy?
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ok so i just watched the thing. i think you misheard it willie. aj said 'i'd say nine. i'll give him one' acknowledging the one that ruiz already took. stupid as it is to read into these things too much, i really didn't feel like aj was all there mentally. i seriously hope he doesn't show up on fight night like that. ruiz looks absolutely loving massive. i don't know what gear they hopped him on but the dude looks like he could compete in a strongman contest tomorrow and be competitive. additionally, he seemed as confident as ever and he echoed my thoughts when he said that he is confident that he's got joshua's number, and that he's tailor made to beat the man. immediately after the first fight i said similar. aside from the knockdown, it looked to me like ruiz was doing whatever the gently caress he wanted in there and it absolutely did not look like a fluke. i think ruiz gets him out of there late. i'll hedge my bets with ruiz winning a decision just in case joshua brings the heart he's shown against wlad. but i am seriously of the opinion that ruiz does it again.
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Having a weigh-in the day after Thanksgiving is never a good idea https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1200523699914448903?s=19
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how the hell do you miss by nearly 10% of your entire bodyweight
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Julio Cruz posted:how the hell do you miss by nearly 10% of your entire bodyweight Probably was already going to miss by a pound or two and just said "gently caress it" and went to town on the Thanksgiving spread at the fight hotel Edit: the fight is taking place at the theater at the Cosmopolitan in Vegas so at least Gutierrez made those 11 pounds count The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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Not a great sign for Ruiz but he was already a fat gently caress so who knows if 10-15 more pounds is actually going to adversely effect him.
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And to think the narrative I kept hearing before the fight was that Ruiz might lose too much weight...
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There comes a point where Ruiz wants to stop emulating Buster Douglas.
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He’s been living the good life
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https://twitter.com/Hock1717/status/1202960443960184832?s=19 No lie, I made this face after seeing Copp's tweet Edit: Sombrero related subterfuge notwithstanding https://twitter.com/pugboxing/status/1202974303286747136?s=19 The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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+15 and he looks slimmer? those world champ roids are good. lol. i thought he looked loving huge during gloves off.
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Marching Powder posted:+15 and he looks slimmer? those world champ roids are good. lol. i thought he looked loving huge during gloves off. Muscle weighs more than fat. You can absolutely gain weight while looking slimmer.
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Made this vid which the boxing subreddit did not allow https://youtu.be/vEzYLp_TedE
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MMMs new username posted:Made this vid which the boxing subreddit did not allow https://youtu.be/vEzYLp_TedE They're boxing podcast is insufferable and I wasn't such a lazy gently caress I would propose we start our own.
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The SituAsian posted:They're boxing podcast is insufferable and I wasn't such a lazy gently caress I would propose we start our own. admins please rename the entire forums.
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Norton the First posted:admins please rename the entire forums. You guessed it, I made the 'Peloton lady' face when I realized my grammatical error https://twitter.com/stevekovach/status/1202564253946990592?s=19
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Muscle weighs more than fat. You can absolutely gain weight while looking slimmer. INCREDIBLE!
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Marching Powder posted:INCREDIBLE! Wow, Andy Ruiz, Berry pantastic body!
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Getting hyped for this fight. All possible outcomes (apart from a cagey no throw 12 rounder) bhave a great narrative.
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naturally i’m hoping for a joshua win to set up a rubber match in raqqa
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Quizzlefish posted:Getting hyped for this fight. All possible outcomes (apart from a cagey no throw 12 rounder) bhave a great narrative. guess what will most likely happen there's no reason to hire Luis Pabón as the ref other than AJ's team wanting to replicate Wlad-Povetkin
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Ruiz is winning. Brutal knockout
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gently caress, I’m stuck at a wedding in some poo poo tier city. Will have to sneak out at fight time.
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Joshua wins easy by the way
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MMMs new username posted:Joshua wins easy by the way that seems to be the trend at my workplace. who's doing the GDT?
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STONE COLD 64 posted:that seems to be the trend at my workplace. who's doing the GDT? none of the usuals have anything prepared unfortunately
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Low Desert Punk posted:Ruiz is winning. Brutal knockout Before round seven.
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