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I don't think I saw anything in the leaks about ship battles. I know there's Star Destroyers, but like they just sort of show up and menace things, then Palpatine gets Windu'd, then ??????????. There aren't even ship battles in this Star Wars come the gently caress on. Gimme my fuckin' X-wings!!! I'm gonna be real: it's really looking like Last Jedi might be better than Rise of Skywalker. And I didn't hate Last Jedi, I thought it was really fun and teased us with a bunch of cool directions things could go in. It just totally backtracked on all that stuff and left us with nothing good left. Watch the movie again and I swear, you can pinpoint the exact moment a Disney executive pointed at the screen and said "no, cut this part out and add the ending our marketing team says will get us more money".
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imagine being a time-traveller and going back in time to the period where TFA hype was peaking and telling people the outline of this whole loving trilogy! you'd probably get banned for trolling.
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Dec 11, 2019 01:10
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After listening to those music tracks I couldn't find anything new that stuck out or felt memorable but that's without watching the movie for context. I just hear the old, familiar themes in a few of those pieces. Meh. This whole trilogy is meh. If they make more Star Wars then it's time to have John Williams retire and give the reigns to the GoT music dude.
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Dec 11, 2019 01:19
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Based on that summary, Finn is getting shafted in terms of screen time.
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Dec 11, 2019 01:24
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Kiss of life, super lightning, Rey Palpatine just put this poo poo directly into my veins
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Dec 11, 2019 01:31
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SyRauk posted:If they make more Star Wars then it's time to have John Williams retire and give the reigns to the GoT music dude. Williams has already said that The Rise of Skywalker is the last Star Wars he'll ever do. Dude's almost 90, can't travel much anymore, I have to imagine he's nearing retirement.
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Dec 11, 2019 01:32
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Duckula posted:Based on that summary, Finn is getting shafted in terms of screen time. so what you're saying is that it's definitely real
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Duckula posted:Based on that summary, Finn is getting shafted in terms of screen time. Can't blame Boyega for being like "gently caress this" after going from co-lead with his own narrative to comic relief exposition guy, on top of everything else. Kind of surprising given how much Abram's supposedly loves him but I guess writing themselves into a Palpatine shaped corner limits their options. I really feel bad for Kelly Marie Tran, who got thrown to the chud fandom wolves over TLJ and is apparently a glorified background character in TROS. Boyega and the other principal cast will be fine but her career might be toast.
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Pollyanna posted:I don't think I saw anything in the leaks about ship battles. I know there's Star Destroyers, but like they just sort of show up and menace things, then Palpatine gets Windu'd, then ??????????. There aren't even ship battles in this Star Wars come the gently caress on. Gimme my fuckin' X-wings!!! There's pretty obviously a big space battle at the end, I think it'd be the kind of thing to that'd be hard to describe in detail without going like "there's just thousands of laser blasts like PEW PEW PEW PEW and then all these fighters whiz by like EEEEOOOORRRRROOOOAA and there's a fat guy in an X-wing that's like "OH poo poo" and he explodes..." Edit: Curious there's no mention of the DS-SD Cruisers (that's "Death Star-Star Destroyer") in this latest bit. Maybe they want to focus on new revelations here but I'd think a description of their firepower would warrant a mention. Do they seriously just SAY they have Death Star rays but never put them to good use?! SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 03:48
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I read that Boyega doesn't think the movies did enough to establish the new trio dynamic, and it occurred to me that I legitimately can't remember if Rey and Poe have actually spoken to each other.
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Dec 11, 2019 03:52
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Asgerd posted:I read that Boyega doesn't think the movies did enough to establish the new trio dynamic, and it occurred to me that I legitimately can't remember if Rey and Poe have actually spoken to each other. They say hi at the very end of TLJ, which is also when they see each other for the first time
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Dec 11, 2019 03:53
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Cinema Discusso > The Star Wars Spoiler thread: I've got a bad feeling about this... (Seriously though, I'm looking forward to this. I never really had any expectations for this one and while it all sounds impressively dumb, it doesn't sound like it does anything to outwardly piss me off, so as long as I can spend some more time with these characters and see some spaceships go kablooey I'll be a happy camper.)
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Dec 11, 2019 03:55
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poe was definitely dead in TFA until reshoots happened so it makes sense that 'the trio' comes off feeling underbaked
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DoctorGonzo posted:star wars didnt need 9 loving movies what the hell You forgot 2. It's at 11 and a TV show.
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I get the feeling the "trio" in this trilogy was supposed to be Kylo, Rey and Finn. Kylo looking at Finn at the start of TFA and fighting him at the end might have meant they were supposed to have a character dynamic as well, but then things happened, Poe lived and everyone got separated into their own sealed stories that aren't allowed to touch each other because ???
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Dec 11, 2019 04:12
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:There's pretty obviously a big space battle at the end, I think it'd be the kind of thing to that'd be hard to describe in detail without going like "there's just thousands of laser blasts like PEW PEW PEW PEW and then all these fighters whiz by like EEEEOOOORRRRROOOOAA and there's a fat guy in an X-wing that's like "OH poo poo" and he explodes..." There's definitely been a shot of them firing in one of the trailers but with that and the Sith Troopers (who seem like they show up right at the end only lmao), I'm really thinking this film is being cut to pieces to just try and fit everything into a feasible runtime.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:13
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I'd wager the space battles are choreographed/animated by a specialist just like fight scenes are done by stunt coordinators and not the story director(JJ in this case). Sure they give input and direct any story beats but most of the shooting and flying is someone else.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:17
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Either way, I can't wait to see people's reaction and how Disney's going to rationalize the poor reception.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:19
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Pollyanna posted:Either way, I can't wait to see people's reaction and how Disney's going to rationalize the poor reception. Fandom Menace. *queue ominous palpatine laugh*
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Dec 11, 2019 04:19
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Odds on the DSSDs one-shotting some big rebel ships to show how badass they are? Though that's hardly 'planet killer'...
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Dec 11, 2019 04:25
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Pollyanna posted:Either way, I can't wait to see people's reaction and how Disney's going to rationalize the poor reception. It'll break half a billion domestic, easily. There might be some talk about how the film "ought" to have made eighty gazillion dollars, and Disney messed that up somehow, but it'll still break half a billion.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:32
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Schwarzwald posted:It'll break half a billion domestic, easily. You don't spend $4billion for a franchise only to make a pittance on a movie. Break even would be bad. Just a hair over break even would still have bad optics.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:48
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i dont know why people are doubting the leaks, this is got season 8 all over again. yes people this movie will suck and this trilogy was a loving waste of time
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Dec 11, 2019 04:52
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There’s no way Disney is happy with the franchise now, I would expect them to just park it indefinitely. No profit, no point.
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Pollyanna posted:There’s no way Disney is happy with the franchise now, I would expect them to just park it indefinitely. No profit, no point. Lol they weren't happy 2 years ago. This must have been a nightmare for the upper management for the last 2 years. You can see the wreck coming but you have to keep a smile and try to minimize the damage over 2 years. At least they'll have closure.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:55
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It's their own loving fault, they hired an idiot hack fraud to direct TFA (and then later TROS) who was only interested in spectacle and gloss and didn't actually bother to plan poo poo out, and they paid for it in the end.
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Dec 11, 2019 04:56
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with the way the mandalorian is being received it wouldn't surprise me if they shift star wars over to just tv series for awhile and then a decade from now they'll start up a new new trilogy and the last shot of the first trailer will be either daisy ridley or adam driver
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garycoleisgod posted:I get the feeling the "trio" in this trilogy was supposed to be Kylo, Rey and Finn. Kylo looking at Finn at the start of TFA and fighting him at the end might have meant they were supposed to have a character dynamic as well, but then things happened, Poe lived and everyone got separated into their own sealed stories that aren't allowed to touch each other because ??? I distinctly remember reading a script or treatment from TFA where Kylo (Sith), Rey (Jedi), and Finn (Force Sensitive/Grey Jedi-type) are basically the center. The way the conflict is set up in TFA definitely follows that. But it got spun off into whatever the hell we ended up with, plus a shoehorned romance thing between Rey & Kylo that has no build-up or development at all. lofi posted:Odds on the DSSDs one-shotting some big rebel ships to show how badass they are? Though that's hardly 'planet killer'... There's a shot in a couple of the tv spots that shows a red Death Star type laser hitting a planet and busting it up - you don't see it coming from a ship though. So the Death Star Destroyers are definitely in there. Brother Entropy posted:with the way the mandalorian is being received it wouldn't surprise me if they shift star wars over to just tv series for awhile If the Kenobi and Rogue One shows are half as successful as the Mandalorian we will probably get a bunch more live action stuff to fill out gaps between the PT - OT - ST, and then some sort of follow up movie in a decade where they can iron out/retcon all the kinks and take advantage of the fact that all the main ST cast are still young enough to plausibly do a bunch more movies. People love the characters in the ST, they just are underwhelmed by the stories being told. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Shaocaholica posted:I'd wager the space battles are choreographed/animated by a specialist just like fight scenes are done by stunt coordinators and not the story director(JJ in this case). Sure they give input and direct any story beats but most of the shooting and flying is someone else. IIRC there is a goon who works in VFX and Pre-viz who basically created and staged the Enterprise losing gravity/crash sequence in Into Darkness.
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Pollyanna posted:It's their own loving fault, they hired an idiot hack fraud to direct TFA (and then later TROS) who was only interested in spectacle and gloss and didn't actually bother to plan poo poo out, and they paid for it in the end. You can't even include JJ in the blame here because he was straight up begging Disney for more time to do reshoots and editing to try and staple TFA together into something worth a gently caress, but they told him to eat poo poo and turn in a cut for Christmas
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Dec 11, 2019 05:19
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One thing you can say in JJ's favor is that he never really tried to sugarcoat how rushed TFA was and has said as much on numerous occasions. This is at least way more honest than rian's "not liking the movie is a russian psyop" shtick
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Pollyanna posted:There’s no way Disney is happy with the franchise now, I would expect them to just park it indefinitely. No profit, no point. Disney exec: *stares out window while thinking of the franchise that has paid for itself thricefold* “drat these Star Wars!”
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Dec 11, 2019 05:39
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people always forget that like you have to pay money to make and advertise films and always judge disney's success against like purely the purchase cost from george lmao sequel defenders are wack
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Dec 11, 2019 05:42
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Hollywood accounting is vague handwaving as necessary to cover crimes, the pro/anti sequel crowds can both find evidence and the real answer will never be known. At best the internal pov will become parseable when their future plans emerge after this loving bomb has settled
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ruddiger posted:Disney exec: *stares out window while thinking of the franchise that has paid for itself thricefold* “drat these Star Wars!” Yeah I'm pretty sure its all sunshine and rainbows over there at Disney HQ. "It's OK team. You did your best."
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Dec 11, 2019 05:46
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I think what pissed Disney off is that they were forced to realize with Solo that star wars, as iconic as it is, can't run on auto pilot and sell itself annually just on the strength of the star wars name. They thought they could just do the MCU thing of take a spec script, change the branding, give it to a sufficiently cowed director and get a cool 800 mil per annum forever, but whoops, people actually care about star wars enough to make noise about it and now the shine is permanently tarnished.
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it rules that a multi billion dollar company like disney did not do like, even a cursory story plan for the three movies lol
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It’s far from clear that it was the wrong call in terms of maximizing money extraction from franchise over time
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