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STAC Goat posted:I don't think I like Bryan Alvarez. he stinks.
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Dec 17, 2019 20:26
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Neodoomium posted:Please stop engaging with the obviously bad-faith gimmick, I beg you all njsykora posted:I feel like Bryan's defense of Charlotte is really taking away from Sempervive's "woman's body part" routine when he was looking for a radio friendly way to call Miz a pussy.
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Dec 17, 2019 21:56
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I'm willing to forgive Bryan's stance to a degree because a) he has wrestled before and b) he constantly hears from the very worst of pro wrestling fans on a daily basis about every topic under the sun, and I'm sure this is no exception. Not to mention his newborn daughter is probably depriving the whole house of some sleep.
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Dec 17, 2019 21:59
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coconono posted:he stinks. the yelling is too much
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Dec 17, 2019 22:00
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CVagts posted:I'm willing to forgive Bryan's stance to a degree because a) he has wrestled before and b) he constantly hears from the very worst of pro wrestling fans on a daily basis about every topic under the sun, and I'm sure this is no exception. Not to mention his newborn daughter is probably depriving the whole house of some sleep. I'm usually willing to give Bryan and Dave tons of rope, but this really feels like he's trying to paint with as broad a brush as possible to characterize anybody criticizing Charlotte for this as the people who hate her for every single thing she does. I get that he has to deal with those people whining about Charlotte every day for no good reason, I get it. But this time she ACTUALLY DID gently caress UP and he's twisting himself into insane knots to not only let her off but discredit anybody criticizing her. Even just going "the slap was bad, the power bomb was bad, but I put more blame on the refs and the people in Gorilla than Charlotte." would be fine. I don't wanna take the tired, hackneyed "he's protecting his source's daughter" shtick, but like. What loving other reason could there be to go to this level of excuse-making?
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Dec 17, 2019 22:11
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MJeff posted:I'm usually willing to give Bryan and Dave tons of rope, but this really feels like he's trying to paint with as broad a brush as possible to characterize anybody criticizing Charlotte for this as the people who hate her for every single thing she does. It is the exact same thing Dave did with Cornette.
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Dec 17, 2019 22:13
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MJeff posted:. What loving other reason could there be to go to this level of excuse-making? waifu syndrome
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Dec 17, 2019 22:16
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MJeff posted:I'm usually willing to give Bryan and Dave tons of rope, but this really feels like he's trying to paint with as broad a brush as possible to characterize anybody criticizing Charlotte for this as the people who hate her for every single thing she does. I get that he has to deal with those people whining about Charlotte every day for no good reason, I get it. But this time she ACTUALLY DID gently caress UP and he's twisting himself into insane knots to not only let her off but discredit anybody criticizing her. Even just going "the slap was bad, the power bomb was bad, but I put more blame on the refs and the people in Gorilla than Charlotte." would be fine. He has been having a bit of a feud with the portion of his customer base that uses his board because he and Dave spent 3 months telling them vehemently that the 3 way at Mania would be better with Charlotte in it. And then it wasn't. He thought that everyone who didn't want Charlotte in the match back then was a hater too.
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Dec 17, 2019 22:18
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MJeff posted:I'm usually willing to give Bryan and Dave tons of rope, but this really feels like he's trying to paint with as broad a brush as possible to characterize anybody criticizing Charlotte for this as the people who hate her for every single thing she does. I get that he has to deal with those people whining about Charlotte every day for no good reason, I get it. But this time she ACTUALLY DID gently caress UP and he's twisting himself into insane knots to not only let her off but discredit anybody criticizing her. Even just going "the slap was bad, the power bomb was bad, but I put more blame on the refs and the people in Gorilla than Charlotte." would be fine. They said she screwed up and that she screwed up in a number of ways.
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Dec 17, 2019 22:19
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Protecting source's daughter is the simplest solution so that's probably it. Ric is stupid protective of his daughter(which is I R O N I C) and this isn't the first time Bryan's gone headass to protect a source.
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Dec 17, 2019 22:20
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It might not even be protecting a source so much as protecting a friend. Dave idolizes Flair. It strikes me as much more likely than Dave desperately guarding his source on how all the wrestlers today just wanna play Switch instead of loving rats.
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Dec 17, 2019 22:42
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Dave saying wwe programming is bad because of the crowd is certainly something The crowds are loving silent because the shows are bad its not tough to figure out
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Dec 17, 2019 23:24
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Dave saying wwe programming is bad because of the crowd is certainly something These are the same kinda excuses that blame fans and fan groups of everything. One step away from comedians blaming PC culture for comedy not having any teeth anymore which is really just another way of some gently caress boomer saying "back in my day---"
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Dec 17, 2019 23:28
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Spikegal posted:These are the same kinda excuses that blame fans and fan groups of everything. One step away from comedians blaming PC culture for comedy not having any teeth anymore which is really just another way of some gently caress boomer saying "back in my day---" And all the while Bryan is trying to talk some sense into him about how the product is always the same, the matches are always the same and there's nothing to get excited over because the match results are bullshit and nothing ever happens
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Dec 17, 2019 23:30
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MassRafTer posted:They said she screwed up and that she screwed up in a number of ways. It got to the point where Dave slipped in to calling her by her actual name while describing the ways she hosed up.
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Dec 17, 2019 23:30
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The crowds should totally be blamed for continuing to go to the shows
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Like yeah at this point if you're going to a WWE show, what the gently caress are you expecting?
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the bad shows will continue until crowd morale improves
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Dave saying wwe programming is bad because of the crowd is certainly something What I got from it is that part of the reason the shows were so bad is that it being bad results in the audiences being dead, which just makes things worse.
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Dec 18, 2019 00:16
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Dave saying wwe programming is bad because of the crowd is certainly something I don’t think that's what he's saying. As I understood it, it's more like... “WWE’s terrible booking was trained fans to understand that only a handful of guys actually matter—getting invested in anyone outside of those guys is only going to result in disappointment as they get depushed, badly booked, and buried. They’ve been burned too many times. Because that’s the crowd they’ve cultivated, it’s incredibly difficult for a match to get over just on the merit of having good wrestling, because the crowd (often correctly) doesn’t think it’ll actually amount to anything. So a lot of otherwise good matches just die because it’s impossible to get the crowd hot, because of the larger systemic issues at WWE.” Bryan is pretty much saying “Yes, but it’s not just because of the macro issue of bad booking, there’s the micro issue of matches having bad heatless rest holds stuffed into them that kill the pace of the match and don’t even end up contributing any kind of psychology. If they cut those bits, and either just shortened the matches, or had faster stuff going on there, they would have at least a reasonably hot crowd” If the crowds are bad, they both agree it’s because of WWE being bad.
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The Lord of Hats posted:I don’t think that's what he's saying. As I understood it, it's more like... “WWE’s terrible booking was trained fans to understand that only a handful of guys actually matter—getting invested in anyone outside of those guys is only going to result in disappointment as they get depushed, badly booked, and buried. They’ve been burned too many times. Because that’s the crowd they’ve cultivated, it’s incredibly difficult for a match to get over just on the merit of having good wrestling, because the crowd (often correctly) doesn’t think it’ll actually amount to anything. So a lot of otherwise good matches just die because it’s impossible to get the crowd hot, because of the larger systemic issues at WWE.” This is how I understood it. "The WWE has made this crowd bad, so nothing the wrestlers could have done that night could have gotten over. " with also a "why even show up" added in.
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I didn't really notice the lisp until Tom got to the Elias segment and then it was just out of control.
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projecthalaxy posted:waifu syndrome Remember a few months ago where every time Charlotte was brought up he’d talk about the time she was on Observer Live & how nice she was? 100% waifu syndrome
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:It might not even be protecting a source so much as protecting a friend. Dave idolizes Flair. It strikes me as much more likely than Dave desperately guarding his source on how all the wrestlers today just wanna play Switch instead of loving rats. That’s even easier. I think the nicest thing I can say about Charlotte is she picked the hardest fuckin way to become a good wrestler.
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Dec 18, 2019 03:23
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Super No Vacancy posted:The crowds should totally be blamed for continuing to go to the shows Waiting for WWE to do an empty arena Raw cause they sold no tickets! (Given how bad houses shows have been attendance wise this may not be far off)
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Daunte Vicknabb posted:Hey Pinche Rudo can you post the pic of us with the Nakamura cosplay so I can show it next to my actual Shinsuke pic? Ask and you shall receive 
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Dec 18, 2019 07:10
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dsriggs posted:Remember a few months ago where every time Charlotte was brought up he’d talk about the time she was on Observer Live & how nice she was? 100% waifu syndrome This is why you never waifu. And especially why you never waifu real people.
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Dec 18, 2019 10:27
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Does anyone have the "he's on the juice, big time" wrestling observer clip
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Bryan googling rumspringa made me lol irl in the office
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Vince Russo was on tij he says bro alot i realize this is a shock. He also thinks his ideas are good for business. And viagra on a pole is good because its still talked about 20 years later. The Croc fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Dec 18, 2019 16:42
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The Croc posted:Vince Russo was on tij he says bro alot i realize this is a shock. He has some interesting ideas that if filtered and cleaned up could be pretty interesting. His problem is that he wants to 1000 things a show and 999 require talent to leave their self respect at the door. One theme out of Russo's fever dream bookings that I like is that wrestlers are sociopathic misanthropes that succumb to their own nature in spite of their best interests.
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KoldPT posted:Does anyone have the "he's on the juice, big time" wrestling observer clip Someone in back?
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In other wrestling media talk, ESPN’s published their recap of the year in wrestling. Their choices for match of the year are Kofi vs Bryan at Mania and Omega-Tana. Okada is mentioned once in the entire article. https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/28318965/the-best-wrestling-2019
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Punch McLightning posted:In other wrestling media talk, ESPN’s published their recap of the year in wrestling. Their choices for match of the year are Kofi vs Bryan at Mania and Omega-Tana. Okada is mentioned once in the entire article. https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/28318965/the-best-wrestling-2019 Marc Raimondi wrote it, that explains why they acknowledge wrestling other than WWE exists.
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coconono posted:He has some interesting ideas that if filtered and cleaned up could be pretty interesting. His problem is that he wants to 1000 things a show and 999 require talent to leave their self respect at the door. If you want good booking like that, watch AAA konnan books that style but good
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Dec 18, 2019 17:59
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Smoking Crow posted:If you want good booking like that, watch AAA konnan books that style but good I catch AAA whenever I’m up to it. Big Mami stan all the way.
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Dec 18, 2019 18:08
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coconono posted:I catch AAA whenever I’m up to it. Big Mami stan all the way. The only problem I have with AAA is that their camera work is somehow worse than WWE's. At least on their big show. Otherwise it was a very fun trainwreck.
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Dec 18, 2019 22:35
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remusclaw posted:The only problem I have with AAA is that their camera work is somehow worse than WWE's. At least on their big show. Otherwise it was a very fun trainwreck. I've never really figured out what's going on with AAA's video production team. I'm assuming its someone's kid because a cousin wouldn't be given that many times to gently caress up catching aerostar murder himself.
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coconono posted:I've never really figured out what's going on with AAA's video production team. I'm assuming its someone's kid because a cousin wouldn't be given that many times to gently caress up catching aerostar murder himself. According to Konnan, the network AAA is on gives them lovely production crews all the time.
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