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Doctor Spaceman posted:Bounding Into Comics isn't exactly trustworthy. Also after Justice League, I don’t trust any rumor that even hints at the existence of a different cut that drastically improves the film but *they* don’t want you to see it.
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Boxman posted:Also after Justice League, I don’t trust any rumor that even hints at the existence of a different cut that drastically improves the film but *they* don’t want you to see it. To be fair, even if the Snyder cut was just a 2-hour reel of old commercials on a flickering VHS tape it would drastically improve Justice League.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Bounding Into Comics isn't exactly trustworthy. Yeah I don't buy that at all, I mean you can tell just from watching the movie that it was overproduced into idiocy from the get go without needing any kind of insider source. But that doesn't mean there was some secret gem version of it that existed beforehand, the whole production is just a clusterfuck and while they keep sort of acting like oh yeah this is what we planned of course! It's clear they always had too many cooks in the kitchen across them.
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Every few years, they should pick a director and just give them all of the footage from the entire sequel trilogy and let them make their own sequel trilogy from it however they want.
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The Little Death posted:Trevorrow was Book of Henry too. That movie is very weird, but not in a fun way. In a dumb and sort of horrifying way. I just read the plot synopsis and  though Trevorrow TROS would have been a lot more entertaining than what we got.
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Also the TROS hype (by which I mean the hilarious poo poo-losing over the spoilers) is what got me to start watching movies again and they’ve somehow gotten worse since the early 2000s. Good job, guys. I missed nothing.
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Wait, Star Wars movies or movies in general? Because blockbusters continue to be garbage on the whole, but you're a goddamn idiot if you think that's representative of the wider cinematic landscape.
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Blockbusters. I watched TLJ and it sucked. I watched TROS and it sucked. I watched Black Panther and it sucked. I watched Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and it ruled. I watched Marriage Story and it ruled. I watched El Desconocido and it ruled. Dolemite is my Name, Knives Out, and Uncut Gems, by all accounts, are great. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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MonsieurChoc posted:Still wanna see that Lucas cut that almost assuredly doesn't exist. I'd settle written stories. Hell, even if it is about midichlorians using people as avatars, it would still be a billion times better than Disney's sloppy trilogy.
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Bogus Adventure posted:I'd settle written stories. Hell, even if it is about midichlorians using people as avatars, it would still be a billion times better than Disney's sloppy trilogy. One thing that's interesting about the Expanded Universe books is that they drew a lot of their setting and equipment information from the West End Games Star Wars RPG (which in turn got it from Lucas films in a pretty unprecedented way) . I think that helped ground them a bit in reality, sort of. In an RPG you have to know where places are, how long it takes to get from one to another. How fast various ships are, how tough they are, how much range and power their weapons have. So, in the books, you can't really do stuff like leave a chase, pop halfway across the galaxy or whatever and then return within the same day. You have to come up with a solution that fits the logic of the situation. Disney Star Wars has shunned the EU, so they don't ground themselves in story logic. Honestly, I'm waiting for somebody to develop the Force technique, Colo-rectal Tesseract, so they can just pull solutions right out of their asses. Everyone fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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Pollyanna posted:Blockbusters. Go watch Alita: Battle Angel
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Pollyanna posted:Blockbusters. I'd give my left nut for Quentin Tarantino to do or have done a Star Wars film. It would be weird and superb. Imagine if he had been in charge of Solo, from the very beginning.
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Is John Boyega really trolling Reylo shippers?  This is amazing, the reactions to this movie are definitely better than the movie itself. Also Scorsese was right about Marvel movies, and in fact all Disney movies. They're giant transformers cartoons, but with much less self-awareness. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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PT6A posted:I'd give my left nut for Quentin Tarantino to do or have done a Star Wars film. It would be weird and superb. Is he still doing a Star Trek?
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The idea of another version of the movie is rather silly since this one has JJ's fingerprints all over it. It's made exactly how JJ makes films, a bullet point of stuff with insane pacing so you don't think about how stupid poo poo is.
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PT6A posted:I'd give my left nut for Quentin Tarantino to do or have done a Star Wars film. It would be weird and superb. I used to joke about it but the more movies come out and the more I keep staring at Kill Bill the more I do kind of wonder like, doing homages that feel like a thing while being its own thing is tarantino's thing, at this point how much worse could he be put tarantino in, coach
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The Little Death posted:Is John Boyega really trolling Reylo shippers? the problem with disney movies these days is too much self-awareness, frankly
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Good Lord that movie was bad, what the gently caress
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Pollyanna posted:I watched Black Panther and it sucked. woah there, bub
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Black Panther was fine as far as mainline MCU cookie cutter poo poo goes, but it was definitely overhyped.
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This is precisely why it was a compelling romance. I understand why a lot of people would prefer Rey to pick the nice guy who would treat her well instead, but it would be incredibly boring.
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Captain Jesus posted:This is precisely why it was a compelling romance. I understand why a lot of people would prefer Rey to pick the nice guy who would treat her well instead, but it would be incredibly boring. Yeah and they had amazing chemistry together. As much as I'd have preferred everyone to be gay Reylo is a straight ship I think is good. And on that topic, literally the most damning criticism of the new trilogy I've seen  https://twitter.com/Yuri_Librarian/status/1211740647440277505
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teagone posted:Black Panther was fine as far as mainline MCU cookie cutter poo poo goes, but it was definitely overhyped. Black Panther was a movie written, directed and starring mostly black people (with Andy Serkis and a CIA Hobbit sidekick as the "token" whities) that made 1.3+ Billion dollars. Figure it's one reason RoS upped the "visible black humans" quota from 1 to 3+. poo poo on the MCU if you want, but, honestly, the fact that it's giving exposure to people like Taiki Waititi, Ryan Coogler and Anna Boden is an objectively good thing, I think. Everyone fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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Black Panther was important for inclusion, but is just as bad as most Marvel movies. Ultimately it showed that even black superheroes can lead a conservative government recruitment propaganda film. Taika knocked it out of the park with his film thematically and narratively, at least.Eimi posted:Yeah and they had amazing chemistry together. As much as I'd have preferred everyone to be gay Reylo is a straight ship I think is good. I don't disagree, but it's not like the OT or PT were any better in that regard. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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Everyone posted:Black Panther was a movie written, directed and starring mostly black people (with Andy Serkis and a CIA Hobbit sidekick as the "token" whities) that made 1.3+ Billion dollars. Figure it's one reason RoS upped the "visible black humans" quota from 1 to 3+. I was speaking to its quality as a film, not on whatever effects or commentary it might've had on the climate of the entertainment industry.
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feedmyleg posted:Black Panther was important for inclusion, but is just as bad as most Marvel movies. Ultimately it showed that even black superheroes can lead a conservative government recruitment propaganda film. Yeah, it's something that's a well known issue with them, given that before the ST there were all of four women in the galaxy with names and speaking roles. Which was one of the nice things about Disney stuff is that you have women extras as pilots and soldiers and poo poo, like that's a good correction Disney did. And I guess part of what you would expect that correction to do was when you had a female lead trilogy, you'd have more female characters for your lead to interact with instead of just men.
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feedmyleg posted:Black Panther was important for inclusion, but is just as bad as most Marvel movies. Ultimately it showed that even black superheroes can lead a conservative government recruitment propaganda film. Taika knocked it out of the park with his film thematically and narratively, at least. Aunt Beru was hot for Padme.
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The Little Death posted:Is John Boyega really trolling Reylo shippers? Why do you think he calls Mark Hamil his dad? He's already made it clear he's not coming back for a Disney +
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One of the questions that was never properly resolved within the films (Until, sadly, this one) is just how powerful are force users, really? Like - is one Jedi/Sith Master comparable to a platoon of troops? A capital ship? An entire fleet/army/whatever? It's not entirely clear, although there are some indications within the prequels that a single Jedi, in combat, doesn't amount to all that much. A few hundred show up on Geonosis and most of them die to a bunch of droids. Nearly all the Jedi die when backstabbed by a bunch of clone troops. They're good warriors but they're not gods. (The animated Clone Wars makes them out to be near Godlike). Perhaps their most important role is inspiring others, something like Gandalf in LOTR - he actually does very little explicit magic, but does a lot to raise morale. (although this is a weird role in the prequels because most of the fighting forces are clones who are trained as infants to be fearless and obedient). One of the more interesting things TLJ played with is completely affirming that. Luke laughs off the idea that he could single-handedly take on an army. His signature moment is to simply produce the image of an inspiring hero. He really couldn't face down 20 AT-ATs or whatever, nobody actually has that kind of power, but he can use his powers to delay an army and allow for folks to retreat, while also getting into Ren's head. It's kind of sloppily handled but I get what they're going for. I kinda like this image of force users. Ok, but now the ambiguity is settled. In ROS if you're strong enough with the force you can pretty much do anything at all - Palpatine can destroy entire fleets, conjure up fleets, who the gently caress knows. It sucks.
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It seems like maybe Kylo Ben's turning point should have come with him making peace with Luke's ghost rather than a "memory" of his father a) it would put a cap on their confrontation in TLJ b) it would provide some closure for both Kylo and for Luke Skywalker, since each have legitimately wronged the other c) Ben basically imagining his father forgiving him for his murder isn't an especially good look
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General Dog posted:It seems like maybe Kylo Ben's turning point should have come with him making peace with Luke's ghost rather than a "memory" of his father It kinda sucks that Luke dies saying 'see you around kid" in TLJ and literally never interacts with Kylo Ren again
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Mike N Eich posted:It kinda sucks that Luke dies saying 'see you around kid" in TLJ and literally never interacts with Kylo Ren again It’s funny that people thought Luke was sincere in his apology and not just trolling the poo poo out Kylo.
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General Dog posted:It seems like maybe Kylo Ben's turning point should have come with him making peace with Luke's ghost rather than a "memory" of his father Ben's soul was split. If you treat Kylo Ren and Ben Solo as two warring identities, then I think thematically it works. Having Ben find his peace with his father through his memories as "Ben" and not as "Kylo Ren" works in that sense. His coming back to the light due to the realization that even when he was Kylo Ren, his father still loved him, and him accepting that he too always loved his father works well enough for me as sealing his return to the light side. But I will say that the lack of interaction between Luke and Ben in TROS is a bummer.
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