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Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Darchangel posted:

If it's horrible but it works, is it horrible?

Pee. Tee. Cruiser. :colbert:

Darchangel posted:

That's my line of thought. Did they drill and tap the aluminum pan, or did they remove the oil pan to use nuts inside? Of course I know the answer, in my heart

I mean, would it really be that bad if they drilled and tapped? Any shavings that would make it into the pan are going to have to get through the pick up screen and the oil filter first...

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

rndmnmbr posted:

What the ladders or board is rated at is my least concern. What concerns me is that an errant bump, or hell a gust of wind, could knock over this lump of random poo poo unconnected by anything but friction and gravity and leave an expensive piece of what is now scrap on the floor. And maybe slam a propane bottle into something sharp and cause what might be described as "fun and excitement".

Depends. If it doesn't spark, just "excitement". The real fun starts with a kiss from Kay spark.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017

Beach Bum posted:

Pee. Tee. Cruiser. :colbert:


I mean, would it really be that bad if they drilled and tapped? Any shavings that would make it into the pan are going to have to get through the pick up screen and the oil filter first...

The integrity of the aluminum taps would be a greater concern than shavings to me

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

The integrity of the aluminum taps would be a greater concern than shavings to me

Manufacturers have been putting steel drain plugs in aluminum oil pans for awhile now...

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Most of the time they probably design the pan to be able to handle having the drain plug in that location. The pan may not be thick enough for tapping everywhere else

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

So now I'm picturing kep nuts on the inside because apparently they didn't have a welder.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Beach Bum posted:

Pee. Tee. Cruiser. :colbert:
But enough about the President.

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")
Ask me about using rtv to stick a snapped valve cover bolt back on

I just really didn't want to deal with it ok

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

taqueso posted:

So now I'm picturing kep nuts on the inside because apparently they didn't have a welder.

This is generally good advice no matter your profession.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Don't ask me about using an umbrella pipe cap and tin foil as gasket to get my car home without an oil cap.
Also don't ask how I opted to pull the oil pan after since some of the tin foil tore and went missing.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Galler posted:

Most of the time they probably design the pan to be able to handle having the drain plug in that location. The pan may not be thick enough for tapping everywhere else

That’s what I meant.

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

Ask me about using rtv to stick a snapped valve cover bolt back on

I just really didn't want to deal with it ok

Now, really, who here hasn’t done something like that at least once, whether from lack of skill at the time, or a lack of fucks given?
I have definitely used RTV and JB Weld inappropriately more than once. Most of the time it worked better than expected.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Galler posted:

Most of the time they probably design the pan to be able to handle having the drain plug in that location. The pan may not be thick enough for tapping everywhere else

:downs: okay that's fair my bad

Chris Knight posted:

But enough about the President.

Your definition of work... needs work :downsrim:

Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jan 3, 2020

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Darchangel posted:

That’s what I meant.


Now, really, who here hasn’t done something like that at least once, whether from lack of skill at the time, or a lack of fucks given?
I have definitely used RTV and JB Weld inappropriately more than once. Most of the time it worked better than expected.

Oh we all have.

Hell I put a couple of ladders on cinder blocks and propane tanks to hoist an engine. Then I realized the timber I used was cracked. So I used JB Weld on it and off I went. I used the quiky-cure stuff.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Guilty.
I stripped an m6 nut on an exhaust heat shield so I tried to weld a bigger nut on over top so I could turn that poo poo, but ended up burning through the nut in to the threads. So I got a small piece of aluminum round bar that was kicking around the shop, 5/8" diameter, drilled a hole as close to the centre as I could, tapped it and threaded it on. As far as I know, its still there because the heat shield isn't rattling. I even filed some flats in it so I could get a wrench on it.

Also twisted a brake bleeder screw almost all the way off. Welded that bitch back together. Wish I had a picture of it. It wasn't even straight or anything.... It was half melted and crooked as gently caress. Bonus was that the heat from welding actually caused it to unsieze enough that I could turn it and "bleed" the caliper. I bought new bleeder screws (for both calipers) but never ended up getting around to changing them out.

Also re: oil pan chat

We all know they should have done the same thing for that that people do for rusted out floor pans. Silicone and self tapping screws.

E: Oh and some sheet metal or whatever...

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

Ask me about using rtv to stick a snapped valve cover bolt back on

I just really didn't want to deal with it ok

Yeah but that's (generally) on top of the engine, gravity is your friend there.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

wesleywillis posted:


E: Oh and some sheet metal or whatever...

Expired license plates are the usual goto.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Colostomy Bag posted:

Expired license plates are the usual goto.

And stolen street signs....

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

wesleywillis posted:

We all know they should have done the same thing for that that people do for rusted out floor pans. Silicone and self tapping screws.

The trick is to use a smaller drill bit than required, punch it through with a tapered drift to extrude the metal out the other side a bit, and then this gives something for your self-tappers to bite into better.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

InitialDave posted:

The trick is to use a smaller drill bit than required, punch it through with a tapered drift to extrude the metal out the other side a bit, and then this gives something for your self-tappers to bite into better.

Cripes, this should be some DIY/PBS series.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Cripes, this should be some DIY/PBS series.
If you do it right you can actually tap threads into the extruded bit you've created and use normal bolts.

You know, for a more professional finish.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Memento posted:

Yeah but that's (generally) on top of the engine, gravity is your friend there.

The 1HD-FTE engine my mate bought for his landcruiser engine swap had a loving exhaust stud glued in with copper RTV...

Welded a nut to it and it came right out after we removed the manifold

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Any bolt is a self‐tapper if your material is soft enough.

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")

Platystemon posted:

Any bolt is a self‐tapper if your material is soft enough.

This is my policy with anything that will allow it.

And if it doesn't, try anyway then pipe epoxy into the now too big hole to hold whatever I'm trying to secure.

I'm very lucky my partners don't know anything about home repair, otherwise I would get poo poo on constantly when I stop caring about a repair.

Dacheat
Feb 21, 2003

LifeSunDeath posted:

Merry Merry!

Even better, this stuff migrated down the axle shaft and took the seals in the ARB air locker out, now i gotta pull both shafts, drop the carrier and change the o-rings in the locker.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Dacheat posted:

Even better, this stuff migrated down the axle shaft and took the seals in the ARB air locker out, now i gotta pull both shafts, drop the carrier and change the o-rings in the locker.

Ugh, that loving blows. I wonder how my pops got so lucky on his Titan. Then again, he has an open diff.

Actually, I bet I know exactly what it was, his bearing didn't explode until the seals had leaked all the fluid out, and thus all the bearing mess didn't have a good way to get back into the diff (because, you see when he finally started hearing bad noises, he was doing 85 down the interstate).

Dacheat
Feb 21, 2003

Beach Bum posted:

Ugh, that loving blows. I wonder how my pops got so lucky on his Titan. Then again, he has an open diff.

Actually, I bet I know exactly what it was, his bearing didn't explode until the seals had leaked all the fluid out, and thus all the bearing mess didn't have a good way to get back into the diff (because, you see when he finally started hearing bad noises, he was doing 85 down the interstate).

Hasn't been my month for jeep related things. the '76 block that the PO put in my '84 CJ7 cam bearings finally wore out, $2375 for a remanned motor, $1200 for EFI, and $2000 in various parts/labor for the install (garage too small to stab the engine in myself).

Got 1000 feet down a trail after getting it back and the ignition quit, tech miswired and toasted the hall effect distributor, duraspark module and coil. Just replaced that whole mess with a self contained HEI setup. Now the locker issue.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Had a nice little moment just now. Work van spewed two quarts of oil from the filter all over a client's driveway. Lawn guy saw the leak and stopped to let me know, thank you lawn dude. Luckily there was a mechanic right around the corner. Cause: wrong (oversized) filter, the gasket on top of the filter blew out after holding on for 2,500 miles. Seriously considering doing my own maintenance on this thing, this is the third time we've lost money because of dumb preventable stuff. I should have caught that earlier, oh well.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

madeintaipei posted:

Had a nice little moment just now. Work van spewed two quarts of oil from the filter all over a client's driveway. Lawn guy saw the leak and stopped to let me know, thank you lawn dude. Luckily there was a mechanic right around the corner. Cause: wrong (oversized) filter, the gasket on top of the filter blew out after holding on for 2,500 miles. Seriously considering doing my own maintenance on this thing, this is the third time we've lost money because of dumb preventable stuff. I should have caught that earlier, oh well.

What is your role in this entire operation? Cleaning up messes?

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Colostomy Bag posted:

What is your role in this entire operation? Cleaning up messes?

Seems like it sometimes. Used up all my paper towels sopping the oil up.

Seriously though, I drive the van. Non-emergency medical transport, which is why I (try to) chance nothing as far as the vehicle goes. One owner 2007 Dodge Caravan wheelchair conversion van, less than 45,000 miles on the odometer. My boss had a mechanic, "go over it completely". Pulling the intake to find a brand-new IAT sensor and a filthy throttle body right next to it, or finding the air filter clogged, or the EGR sooted up, should have told me otherwise. I do get paid if I spend my own time fixing the thing and use the company card to buy parts.

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos
I have a buddy who runs non-emerg transport and its my understanding that they are hyper-post-peak-capitalism vehicles (no pun intended) to just fleece medicare and keep olds that no one cares about alive.

Working, even if getting paid, to fix company kit, if it is not your primary job function, is absolutely idiotic.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


Best Dead Gay Forums
on the whole Internet!
I'm on disability and these guys take me to my doctors appointments - https://www.southeastrans.com/

They're interesting. The last time I needed a ride they sent a taxicab to come and get me, and then another to take me back home again. It's not every day one gets a free cab ride, let alone two. The story was that the driver who usually comes got into an accident on the way to my house.

I missed the transportation van once and they sent a Lyft.

When I ride in the van it's usually just me.

I guess I'm worthless and no one cares about me but at least I get a free ride to my doctor so I can get my medication.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Vanagoon posted:

I'm on disability and these guys take me to my doctors appointments - https://www.southeastrans.com/

They're interesting. The last time I needed a ride they sent a taxicab to come and get me, and then another to take me back home again. It's not every day one gets a free cab ride, let alone two. The story was that the driver who usually comes got into an accident on the way to my house.

I missed the transportation van once and they sent a Lyft.

When I ride in the van it's usually just me.

I guess I'm worthless and no one cares about me but at least I get a free ride to my doctor so I can get my medication.

You are not and I hope you don't really feel that way.

We are a smaller company, with limited aims. One client at a time, more of a limo service than a bus. We do wheelchair and stretcher, mostly return clients, some for years.

Crunchy Black posted:

I have a buddy who runs non-emerg transport and its my understanding that they are hyper-post-peak-capitalism vehicles (no pun intended) to just fleece medicare and keep olds that no one cares about alive.

Working, even if getting paid, to fix company kit, if it is not your primary job function, is absolutely idiotic.

1st part: It definitely can be a heartless thing. If you give a poo poo, it doesn't have to be. You could end up driving a paraplegic who needs to go a county over for a specialist appointment, a person who has to (as in has to) go to dialysis three times a week, a person who would otherwise be mobile but has suffered an injury which doesn't allow them individual mobility, someone going to the hospital not knowing if surgery will work out, all from where they live, and taking them back, in a safe, timely manner.
The money is there to do that because you must have some sort of insurance paying for the ride. Take it up with insurance.

Pray you do not get old yourself.

2nd part: Basic maintenance only, there is a really good mechanic close enough to my house to push the loving thing there for anything more complicated. I just don't want stupid failures on someone else's part to impact our riders or (and I gotta think about me) my paycheck.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

Crunchy Black posted:

keep olds that no one cares about alive.

gently caress, dude. How long did you have to train to get that compassionate?

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Exit Strategy posted:

gently caress, dude. How long did you have to train to get that compassionate?

:drat:

:)

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Crunchy Black posted:

I have a buddy who runs non-emerg transport and its my understanding that they are hyper-post-peak-capitalism vehicles (no pun intended) to just fleece medicare and keep olds that no one cares about alive.

I'm on the app so this is just a guess, but I think it's time for you to get out of cspam.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

this isn't cspam, but the point is still valid

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



taqueso posted:

this isn't cspam, but the point is still valid

right I meant that posting in cspam too much was giving him the wrong kind of insanity instead of the right kind (automotive).

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

madeintaipei posted:

One owner 2007 Dodge Caravan wheelchair conversion van, less than 45,000 miles on the odometer.

Chrysler products sure are special.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all
As someone who has to get to medical places to get things done and my "heated" garage is now <40F because it's -8F outside and it's just too goddamn cold to do anything with a blown out front hub, I appreciate the work y'all do.

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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Vanagoon posted:

I guess I'm worthless and no one cares about me but at least I get a free ride to my doctor so I can get my medication.
I agree with madeintaipei - I hope you don't really feel that way. Hell, I only know you as someone who posts here and I care, I'm sure people who actually know you feel even more so.

madeintaipei posted:

Pray you do not get old yourself.
Or even sick ... there are lots of things that can take a lot of your freedom, and we should all be so lucky to have people help us.

Dannywilson posted:

As someone who has to get to medical places to get things done and my "heated" garage is now <40F because it's -8F outside and it's just too goddamn cold to do anything with a blown out front hub, I appreciate the work y'all do.
This.

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