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Phenotype posted:His orders from Colon were "if he gives you any trouble, you just leave, okay?" so Carrot was just being very honest, as usual. If Whiteface didn't do what Carrot said, Carrot was going to carry out his orders and leave. And he wouldn't like it and he'd be ashamed of it, but he'd do it. I love how Colon's internal monologue describes it too. Something about having seen people bluff with bad hands before, but he'd never seen someone bluff with no cards.
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# ? Dec 29, 2019 12:30 |
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Jedit posted:The commandment is not "thou shalt not kill". It's "thou shalt not do murder", a distinction Pterry was always careful to make without reducing it to the Texas Defence. When the body had stopped rolling, Vimes looked around the square. People were watching from the coaches. The crowds were silent. There were a lot of things he could say. ‘Son of a bitch!’ would have been a good one. Or he could say, ‘Welcome to civilization!’ He could have said, ‘Laugh this one off!’ He might have said, ‘Fetch!’ But he didn’t, because if he had said any of those things then he’d have known that what he had just done was murder. He turned away, tossed the empty mortar over his shoulder and muttered, 'The hell with it.' At times like this teetotalism bit down hard.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:46 |
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Isn't it Carrot that does the "easy way/hard way" gag with a stick poking into a guard's back in uh, Fifth Elephant as well?
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 17:11 |
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In The Fifth Element it's Angua, and she doesn't even have a pointed stick:quote:Snow was falling again. The watchman that Vimes had named Colonesque was leaning in his box by the hubward gate of Bonk. He'd perfected the art, and it was was an art form, of going to sleep upright with his eyes open. It was one of the things you learned, on endless nights.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 19:11 |
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I think the stick in the back gag went something along the lines of "don't turn around, or I'll be forced to do something I'll regret" (i.e. acknowledging that I only have a stick). But now that I think about it that actually might have been Douglas Adams. There's no guns on Discworld anyway. Well, anymore.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 19:50 |
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My Lovely Horse posted:I think the stick in the back gag went something along the lines of "don't turn around, or I'll be forced to do something I'll regret" (i.e. acknowledging that I only have a stick).
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 20:10 |
There's a stick-to-the-back-please-don't-go-for-the-other-way gag in Good Omens as well, isn't there?
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# ? Dec 31, 2019 16:07 |
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gently caress me, that's totally it. When they break into the Air Force base ("Peace is Our Profession")
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# ? Dec 31, 2019 17:03 |
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Oh yeah, that's the one. Guess we know who put it in!
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# ? Dec 31, 2019 18:06 |
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Putting a sign up in my kitchen. "PEASE IS OUR PROFESSION"
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# ? Dec 31, 2019 21:03 |
So I’ve just finished Mort, which I liked a lot (though the ending was a little weak). Previously I’ve read Guards! Guards! which was fantastic. Question is: do I keep pursuing one of these two (which is better?) or should I try something like Rincewind or Wyrd Systers (which I don’t think I’ll care for as much).
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 23:34 |
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The City Watch Series.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 23:37 |
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Sandwolf posted:So I’ve just finished Mort, which I liked a lot (though the ending was a little weak). Previously I’ve read Guards! Guards! which was fantastic. The city watch is always a favorite but I recommend reading in publish order. You’ll get Easter eggs and references that way that make the world more fun.
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 00:41 |
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hanales posted:The city watch is always a favorite but I recommend reading in publish order. You’ll get Easter eggs and references that way that make the world more fun. I'd say this as well unless you fall in love with one set so much you want to chase their whole line down. At least try the others, the Witches are common favorites though Equal Rites is a bit of what makes them great before it really gels. Weatherwax works better with other characters to bounce off of.
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 02:33 |
Honestly, I don't like Wyrd Sisters much either. I feel like Witches don't find their feet until Witches Abroad, and then every book is gold.
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 19:22 |
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ConfusedUs posted:Honestly, I don't like Wyrd Sisters much either. I feel like Witches don't find their feet until Witches Abroad, and then every book is gold.
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 19:52 |
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I suppose it's better than "you could tell the Alzheimers was catching up" for the millionth time, but come on. The Three Witches novels are all explicit parodies, and Wyrd Sisters isn't even the only Shakespeare parody.
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 20:04 |
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Also, give the Tiffany Aching series a chance!
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# ? Jan 8, 2020 20:55 |
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Except the last one. Don't ever read it.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 01:19 |
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Beachcomber posted:Except the last one. Don't ever read it. I'm'll read it
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 02:10 |
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I Shall Wear Midnight? I thought it was fine.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 04:41 |
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The Shepherd's Crown.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 04:50 |
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I thought it was a great send-off for the Disc but it's a hard one to get through because it feels like a goodbye throughout. It's stronger than Raising Steam.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 04:59 |
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Bruceski posted:I Shall Wear Midnight? I thought it was fine. I Shall Wear Midnight is great and is also the place I will stop whenever I do my next reread, and every time after that.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 06:17 |
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Mokinokaro posted:I thought it was a great send-off for the Disc but it's a hard one to get through because it feels like a goodbye throughout. It's a depressing re-read for me and I don't think I'll ever do it again, not just because it's the final book but also because it's kind of a necessary cleanse after how bad Raising Steam is.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 07:39 |
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Shepard's Crown and Raising Steam are both bad
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 09:05 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Wyrd Sisters definitely feels like Early Pratchett, he seems to go a little too far to make explicit Shakespeare parodies. You say like it is a bad thing? Mokinokaro posted:I thought it was a great send-off for the Disc but it's a hard one to get through because it feels like a goodbye throughout. Shepherd's crown is not a book but a goodbye to Pratchett. It is not really relevant to other people than Pratchett fans.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 09:19 |
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Raising Steam is a bad book which lacks the charm and humor of Pratchett's work. But it's still a book, at least. Shephard's Crown is basically a conversation with a late stage Alzheimer's patient. Just... ideas and plots and paragraphs going nowhere.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 12:58 |
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Xander77 posted:Raising Steam is a bad book which lacks the charm and humor of Pratchett's work. But it's still a book, at least. I cried like a baby when I read it, though. which admittedly was right after PTerry died. It was a good send off, even if it’s not a good book.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 15:06 |
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Cardiac posted:You say like it is a bad thing?
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 15:09 |
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YggiDee posted:The Shepherd's Crown. Ah, I haven't read that one and forgot about it. Wasn't trying to do some memory-hole joke.
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# ? Jan 9, 2020 19:15 |
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I remember liking Raising Steam more than Unseen Academicals, although that's an extremely low bar to clear.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 20:17 |
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I've come to like Academicals more on re-reads. Steam... it felt like everyone had the same voice. There were a few moments where the Pratchett diamond shone through (the Railway Children bit) but the rest felt like something was missing.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:27 |
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Unseen Academicals is miles better than both Snuff and Raising Steam (and Shepherd's Crown for that matter). It's not one of the better books, but I never understood the hate.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 13:16 |
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I have two assumptions here: 1) Unseen Academicals is hilarious if you're familiar with UK football culture. 2) this is a US-centric forum and none of us got those jokes.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 13:48 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Unseen Academicals is miles better than both Snuff and Raising Steam (and Shepherd's Crown for that matter). It's not one of the better books, but I never understood the hate. I bounced off of Snuff pretty hard the first time I read it, but it's slowly become something of a pleasure. The Riverboat sequence is one of my favourites, for reasons I can't quite articulate. Raising Steam... look, I wanted to love it.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 06:47 |
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I’ve not read Snuff for a while, but doesn’t the riverboat sequence end with a character (Sergeant Haddock?) just inexplicably being there to help, for no reason? I remember flicking back and forth trying to work out where he’d come from.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 07:35 |
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Haddock was on overseas duty at Quirm, where Vimes end up in and the local cops call him since they figure an Ankh-Morporkian cop would know what to do about him.
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 08:52 |
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My wife has recently finished the Tiffany Aching audiobooks, and has moved on to Good Omens. Where should I send her next, audiobook-wise? Are they all narrated by the same guy? Of equal quality?
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# ? Jan 15, 2020 10:00 |
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Beachcomber posted:My wife has recently finished the Tiffany Aching audiobooks, and has moved on to Good Omens. All the Discworld productions I've heard have been great, the unabridged ones are mostly read by Stephen Briggs, who I expect did the Aching books you've heard unless there are other versions. Some early ones are read by Nigel Planer, who's good but I don't agree with some of his choices of accents and voices, although he's perfect as Mort.
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