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Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin

Onmi posted:

Can you just go back to posting about TLJ so we can watch you stroke it to Rian Johnson instead?

You mean the one good film in the whole sequel trilogy? I mean I can do that, but I ain't gonna let you watch.

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TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

If you can't tell the difference between satan and a dragon im not sure anyone should listen to you

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Horizon Burning posted:

introducing the face of ren, master of the knights of ren



Lol it’s the same fuckin reveal as Kylo

“I’ll bet he’s scarred or mean looking under that mask lol no he fine”

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin
Guess I've really lit a fire under the asses of SW spoiler thread posters who speak fluent Elvish


I can only pray that they contain their true feelings to the LOTR thread.

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin
oh wait

y'all don't have a thread.

Because nobody fuckin cares about that bullshit.

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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Goddamn shut the gently caress up.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

since we're doing Lord of the Rings talk i last watched the Lord of the Rings films about 5 years ago. they're alright. don't quite get the fuss but the music and Ian McKellen are both good. can't be bothered watching over 9 hours of it again any time soon though and there is no way in hell i'm ever watching the extendo versions.

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Rando
Mar 11, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

oh wait

y'all don't have a thread.

Because nobody fuckin cares about that bullshit.

Ash nazg dar-gently caress yourself.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

cargohills posted:

since we're doing Lord of the Rings talk i last watched the Lord of the Rings films about 5 years ago. they're alright. don't quite get the fuss but the music and Ian McKellen are both good. can't be bothered watching over 9 hours of it again any time soon though and there is no way in hell i'm ever watching the extendo versions.

High Fantasy doesn’t have a lot of great movies so LoTR hit the sweet spot.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


https://twitter.com/jkozal/status/1215973274968121345?s=21

I stopped reading this thread after 6 or 7 posts but I assume it’s broke brained in some fashion because “9th viewing of Rise of Skywalker”

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Boxman posted:

https://twitter.com/jkozal/status/1215973274968121345?s=21

I stopped reading this thread after 6 or 7 posts but I assume it’s broke brained in some fashion because “9th viewing of Rise of Skywalker”

Glad he only had to watch the movie nine times to come to terms with the death of a fictional character. Some people take years to accept the passing of a loved one.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!
This seems like an exceptionally long winded way to say "I'll never get laid (except for desperate girls)"

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

If you can't tell the difference between satan and a dragon im not sure anyone should listen to you

It's the movie's fault for giving it wings, like what a dragon would have

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
One thing about The Last Jedi is, that scene at the end where Luke winks at C3PO, that was added by Mark Hamill himself because the HACK who wrote the script didn't write in any interaction between Luke and C3PO. I mean COME ON.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

euphronius posted:

Tpm is rough for me even. It’s pace is very unmodern

imagine, if you will, being a 15 year old with his friends at the midnight opening of a new star war(tm)

and it opens on a trade conflict in space

because you see the Senate has insisted on placing sanctions against the governing bodies of municipal sector 1512, vis a vie the precedent set by councilman jingjang, ergo all future committees must file form 23b in triplicate no later than

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Horizon Burning posted:

introducing the face of ren, master of the knights of ren



jeffrey epstein??

Jesus most american comic book art is so loving ugly.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

zer0spunk posted:

imagine, if you will, being a 15 year old with his friends at the midnight opening of a new star war(tm)

and it opens on a trade conflict in space

because you see the Senate has insisted on placing sanctions against the governing bodies of municipal sector 1512, vis a vie the precedent set by councilman jingjang, ergo all future committees must file form 23b in triplicate no later than

The Phantom Menace has fewer lines about taxes than A New Hope has about farming.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Bongo Bill posted:

The Phantom Menace has fewer lines about taxes than A New Hope has about farming.

this changes nothing, i came for the wars sir. lest we all forget.

those prequels are a mess, time can't fix that. i'll give you this, the pod racing game we got out of it was sweet

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

zer0spunk posted:

this changes nothing, i came for the wars sir. lest we all forget.

those prequels are a mess, time can't fix that. i'll give you this, the pod racing game we got out of it was sweet

A spaceship is destroyed within several minutes of the start of the film, and soon after the protagonists are caught up in an invasion.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Even the opening crawl says less about taxes than it does DEADLY BATTLESHIPS and JEDI KNIGHTS. 5 minutes in Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor are slicing apart battle droids while the Star Wars theme plays, and then DROIDEKAS roll in, and we all know how loving cool droidekas are

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
did i see a different movie then y'all?

the conflict is a trade embargo..

then they coincidence land exactly where young darth vader is

the pacing being all over the place, like previously mentioned

we get the over-explanation of midocholrians and whatever jar jar is supposed to be in this movie

the only interesting character of the lot who isn't either whiney or just wooden has 4 lines and then is killed off (or not really since he pops up again 10 movies later)

i mean ok, i get that unlike the disney crop, there is a semi-coherent story told across a trilogy..but if the goal was to explain how the empire became a thing and also darth vader (neither of which we were really clamoring for, let's be honest)..it did it in a really convoluted weak rear end way by someone who could barely write actual human interaction the first go around.

is this because these new ones are so bad that we're holding up the last 3 as if they somehow became less cartoonishly made?

people can do good stuff with the premise (the success of the Mandalorian, ESB being actually decent), these weren't it for me, and a ton of other people. roger ebert loved tpm though..oddly enough.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
I hate it when I expect to see a star war but instead am shown a conflict in space.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Schwarzwald posted:

I hate it when I expect to see a star war but instead am shown a conflict in space.

I demand more disagreements in the cosmos

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

zer0spunk posted:

the conflict is a trade embargo..

It starts small and escalates.

zer0spunk posted:

then they coincidence land exactly where young darth vader is

A story about how two people met has to show them meeting somehow. Anakin wasn't special until the Jedi encountered him. Also, it's the fourth movie in a series that features a mystical energy field that controls people's destinies.

zer0spunk posted:

we get the over-explanation of midocholrians and whatever jar jar is supposed to be in this movie

Two of the three preceding Star Wars movies had an explanation of what a mentor character thinks the Force is.

What Jar Jar Binks is supposed to be in this movie is a hero who is clumsy.

zer0spunk posted:

the only interesting character of the lot who isn't either whiney or just wooden has 4 lines and then is killed off (or not really since he pops up again 10 movies later)

It's really weird to call Jar Jar whiney and wooden, because he is neither.

zer0spunk posted:

i mean ok, i get that unlike the disney crop, there is a semi-coherent story told across a trilogy..but if the goal was to explain how the empire became a thing and also darth vader (neither of which we were really clamoring for, let's be honest)..it did it in a really convoluted weak rear end way by someone who could barely write actual human interaction the first go around.

It wasn't that convoluted. The Republic became the Empire by voting to become the Empire. The reason why they voted that way was because they were having a civil war. The reason that a civil war broke out was because the Republic sucked.

zer0spunk posted:

is this because these new ones are so bad that we're holding up the last 3 as if they somehow became less cartoonishly made?

The Phantom Menace is the third sequel to a movie in which the main character teams up with a samurai wizard, the Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz, and a space trucker, and Bigfoot, in order to save a princess from the Black Knight and defeat the space nazis. I understand that at age 15 you become much more aware of how cartoonish cartoons are exactly, but it ain't new.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Bongo Bill posted:

The Phantom Menace is the third sequel to a movie in which the main character teams up with a samurai wizard, the Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz, and a space trucker, and Bigfoot, in order to save a princess from the Black Knight and defeat the space nazis. I understand that at age 15 you become much more aware of how cartoonish cartoons are exactly, but it ain't new.

i like that the defense of this movie is "it's about space wizards, why were you expecting anything?"

idk something can be fantasy and also badly done..quite easily i'd argue..

but then again, the people in charge of this thing had a fortnite lead in, so they seem to agree with your assessment that none of this poo poo matters

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
I try to keep a open mind but I cannot tolerate even indirect or implied defense of Jar Jar.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

mycot posted:

I try to keep a open mind but I cannot tolerate even indirect or implied defense of Jar Jar.

Jar Jar Binks is good. Fight me.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Bongo Bill posted:

Jar Jar Binks is good. Fight me.

The dude who played him almost killed himself because of it..I meannnnn

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

zer0spunk posted:

The dude who played him almost killed himself because of it..I meannnnn

Fandom reaction to Jar Jar Binks is bad.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
i would have, wholeheartedly and unironically, given a standing ovation if the big reveal after all 9 movies of the saga was an extremely eloquent jar jar binks being the mastermind of everything (as voiced by peter serafinowicz)

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

meesa be all da sith!

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

meesa be all da sith!

Sith emperor binks doesn't talk like that. You think Jar Jar is even his real name?

i love the vast amounts of fan art of this that already exists


zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 11, 2020

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


The Prequels started the prop-focused trend that the ST capitalized on. Everything from Jedi Robes to lightsabers, things featured sparingly in the OT, become super common and totems in their own right. I mean, it's not even clear that Jedi were meant to always wear earth-tone coloured robes. Uncle Owen wears them, because he lives in a desert and they are modeled on bedouin robes. But suddenly in the PT all the Jedi dress like Obi-wan and all the little kid padawans dress like Luke. Even beyond the midichlorians, as SMG has said the PTs demystify the force and turn it from something that people like Han can be skeptical of, to something that objectively people should believe in because acrobatic space samurai were backflipping 30 feet in the air within living memory by the time ANH comes around. C-3P0 and R2 also become inexplicably linked to multiple main characters, leading to the universe feeling a lot smaller. The PT aren't without merit but they do suffer from the same creative drift that the ST would have much worse.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Yelling trade embargo doesn't necessarily make The Phantom Menace bad.

What I will say is that Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back have really clean plots and as the good movies, they get put on the pedestal for that. And so there is the notion--right or wrong--that the plot simplicity is necessary for something to be Star Wars.

Star Wars's plot execution is just super clean because it just follows the thread of stopping the Death Star throughout

Empire is a long chase scene and vision quest that converge

I think The Last Jedi gets the closest of getting to that cleanness: It's a castle siege and a vision quest that converge. It's telling that the casino planet stuff is what even supporters of the film like myself will admit is a bit weak.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

zer0spunk posted:


we get the over-explanation of midocholrians and whatever jar jar is supposed to be in this movie

Allow me to blow your mind with this explanation of what Jar Jar is:

quote:

The movie begins with two characters in a spaceship, which is then taken inside another spaceship. The two characters escape from danger to the planet below, where they meet one of the locals who helps them make contact with their real target.

This is a summary of the first half-hour or so of episode 1. It is also a summary of the first half-hour or so of episode 4.

Jar Jar is Luke Skywalker.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Grandpa Palpatine posted:

oh wait

y'all don't have a thread.

Because nobody fuckin cares about that bullshit.

I don’t know what you’re even talking about but you’ve posted more times than you’ve been responded to lol how lonely are you

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

The Little Death posted:

The Prequels started the prop-focused trend that the ST capitalized on. Everything from Jedi Robes to lightsabers, things featured sparingly in the OT, become super common and totems in their own right. I mean, it's not even clear that Jedi were meant to always wear earth-tone coloured robes. Uncle Owen wears them, because he lives in a desert and they are modeled on bedouin robes. But suddenly in the PT all the Jedi dress like Obi-wan and all the little kid padawans dress like Luke. Even beyond the midichlorians, as SMG has said the PTs demystify the force and turn it from something that people like Han can be skeptical of, to something that objectively people should believe in because acrobatic space samurai were backflipping 30 feet in the air within living memory by the time ANH comes around. C-3P0 and R2 also become inexplicably linked to multiple main characters, leading to the universe feeling a lot smaller. The PT aren't without merit but they do suffer from the same creative drift that the ST would have much worse.

The mistake is in demanding a return to mysticism, when the entire point of the prequels is that the lightsabers and jedi robes are evidently mass-produced in a factory somewhere. There's nothing holy here.

This gives Han Solo more reason to be atheist, because doing nifty backflips doesn't make you God.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Timeless Appeal posted:



I think The Last Jedi gets the closest of getting to that cleanness: It's a castle siege and a vision quest that converge. It's telling that the casino planet stuff is what even supporters of the film like myself will admit is a bit weak.

I didn't like it, but in the context of 7-9, it's the only one that tries interesting things for better or worse.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

2house2fly posted:

Allow me to blow your mind with this explanation of what Jar Jar is:


This is a summary of the first half-hour or so of episode 1. It is also a summary of the first half-hour or so of episode 4.

Jar Jar is Luke Skywalker.

Specifically, Jar Jar is Luke Skywalker if his annoying hayseed fish-out-of-water schtick as he gets dragged along the adventure were portrayed in a manner that makes him less like the audience, instead of more like them.

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Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

There was a "Phantom Menace But It's Only The Trade Dispute Scenes" video and it was surprisingly coherent

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