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tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

sleez posted:

Currently reading a non-fiction book about the history of the gypsies and their way of life, and I dig it. I'm looking for similar stuff where I can learn some fascinating things about other cultures.

The Marsh Arabs is really good. You might enjoy Braiding Sweetgrass, which is nonfiction and about Indigenous epistemology/ontology plus ecology. Thomas King’s The Truth About Stories is really loving incredible.

If you can find a copy, Ways of Knowing: Experience, Knowledge and Power Among the Dene Tha by Jean-Guy Goulet actually changed my life.

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Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Dr.D-O posted:

My boomer mother always recommends this book because it has something to do with Autism (I have autistic family members).


Wikipedia is telling me that this is a children's novel? Is this true?

I read it when I was a kid, and I loved it.

sleez
Jan 11, 2020

Whe the laughing is over, people like you cry.
Dang, Ways of Knowing is exactly the type of thing I was looking for, thanks. Hope I can get a hold of it somehow.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Anyone read Darklight by Bella Forrest? It popped up on a kindle advert and I readily dismissed it seeing as it was described as "twilight for grownups", but then I saw it had really good reviews, and one review gave it one star because there wasn't enough romance. I generally don't trust public reviews of popular books, and I'm not sure what to think from the sample. It's dirt cheap though, and I as far as I'm concerned, vampires never really go out of style.

Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jan 13, 2020

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

sleez posted:

Currently reading a non-fiction book about the history of the gypsies and their way of life, and I dig it. I'm looking for similar stuff where I can learn some fascinating things about other cultures.

What's the title of the book that you're reading? I have always been curious about the Romani, and would love to finally read a solid work on them.

sleez
Jan 11, 2020

Whe the laughing is over, people like you cry.

IBroughttheFunk posted:

What's the title of the book that you're reading? I have always been curious about the Romani, and would love to finally read a solid work on them.

It's a German book called "Zigeuner: Begegnungen mit einem ungeliebten Volk" ("Gypsies: encounters with an unpopular people") by Rolf Bauerdick, though, from what I can find, it's only available in German, Dutch and Polish, for whatever reason. Pretty silly if you ask me. I think there's generally a lack of good books on the subject. For what it's worth, "Gypsy Boy" by Mikey Walsh tells the same story albeit from a different perspective and is supposed to be pretty good.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Black Griffon posted:

Anyone read Darklight by Bella Forrest? It popped up on a kindle advert and I readily dismissed it seeing as it was described as "twilight for grownups", but then I saw it had really good reviews, and one review gave it one star because there wasn't enough romance. I generally don't trust public reviews of popular books, and I'm not sure what to think from the sample. It's dirt cheap though, and I as far as I'm concerned, vampires never really go out of style.

it’s called “darklight” and the author calls herself “bella forrest”, how good do you think it’s going to be

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Sometimes trash is fun. If anyone else has waded into the same trash, I'd like to know.

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013

Black Griffon posted:

Sometimes trash is fun. If anyone else has waded into the same trash, I'd like to know.

are you really asking whether you should buy dirt-cheap vampire porn?

of course you should

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Black Griffon posted:

Sometimes trash is fun. If anyone else has waded into the same trash, I'd like to know.

Alas, the friend of mine most likely to have read it hasn't read it, and I haven't yet fallen to the kind of desperation that would lead me to read kindle-only PNR.

Still, god that summary. "Vampires are extinct! Except that they're not, because super-hottie vampire Dorian is in my proximity and drat is he hot!"

I love it. Please review the trash when you're done with it, I love reading about these dumb books.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


That's the encouragement I need. I'll report back with my findings, folks.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Sham bam bamina! posted:

Journey to the End of the Night.

:unsmigghh:

Je suis d'accord.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS posted:

Any other sort of grand fantasy series worth diving into? Just about to finish The Black Company series (enjoyed it quite a bit), read The Malazan Book of the Fallen prior to that (took forever, really didn’t enjoy it all as much as I’d hoped). May swap to historical fiction since I’d asked about that before, but any completed series recommendations are appreciated.

If you you don't go with Patrick O'Brian (you should), maybe give the First Law trilogy a go?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Blistex posted:

Looking for some good 1950-1970's science fiction, or some modern stuff that's in the same spirit. I've been googling lists of recommended stuff, and it's usually the same 20 results over and over.

Stuff I like:
Asimov (all)
Niven (when it's NOT interspecies sex)
Forever War
Ender's Game
Arthur C Clarke
Dune

Basically I'd like some manner of epic sci-fi in the spirit of the aforementioned, and avoid the more modern stuff that tends to really date itself, "the super-hacker took control of the server...".

Le Guin?

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Casual Encountess posted:

looking for books both fiction and non about the french resistance/early 20th century french life.

i’m sadly becoming a ouiaboo

Claude Simon's The Flanders Road is mostly from the perspective of a soldier on horseback during the fall of france and also has some of the most astounding long sentences you are ever likely to read.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

I just finished the Oxford time travel stuff (Fire Watch, Doomesday Book, To Say Nothing Of the Dog, Blackout/All Clear) by Connie Willis, which was largely good fun. What else is similar?

Goodreads suggest Lois McMaster Bujold, of whose work I've only read the first Vorkosigan(?) story which didn't really grab me.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Looking for some survival horror/sci fi where outside is bad but inside unsustainable. The Mist is an obvious example, though preferably with extended scenes of people going outside to support the inside.

Ideally featuring people with minimal applicable skills doing the best they can vs a hostile environment rather than Gruff Retired Marine vs Some Jerk

Splicer fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jan 21, 2020

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Splicer posted:

Looking for some survival horror/sci fi where outside is bad but inside unsustainable. The Mist is an obvious example, though preferably with extended scenes of people going outside to support the inside.

Ideally featuring people with minimal applicable skills doing the best they can vs a hostile environment rather than Gruff Retired Marine vs Some Jerk

Sounds like you might like Semiosis by Sue Burke. Or maybe The Corporate Wars trilogy by Ken MacLeod.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Splicer posted:

Looking for some survival horror/sci fi where outside is bad but inside unsustainable. The Mist is an obvious example, though preferably with extended scenes of people going outside to support the inside.

Ideally featuring people with minimal applicable skills doing the best they can vs a hostile environment rather than Gruff Retired Marine vs Some Jerk

Nick Cutter's The Troop probably works for you. It's fun and gross.

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Splicer posted:

Looking for some survival horror/sci fi where outside is bad but inside unsustainable. The Mist is an obvious example, though preferably with extended scenes of people going outside to support the inside.

Ideally featuring people with minimal applicable skills doing the best they can vs a hostile environment rather than Gruff Retired Marine vs Some Jerk

I really enjoyed "The Terror" by Dan Simmons, which fits that mold very well. The outside threat is both real (environment) and mystical, and the unsustainable is fed off that. There's an AMC series too that is very good, though much is changed (which is a good thing), as well as a 2nd season that is completely unrelated.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
I need a good book about something interesting that happened in America any time before the Civil War

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Gripweed posted:

I need a good book about something interesting that happened in America any time before the Civil War

Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Franchescanado posted:

Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon

Oh sorry, I should have said, it needs to be a straight up nonfiction history book. It's for a history class.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Gripweed posted:

I need a good book about something interesting that happened in America any time before the Civil War

1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3890912

BLDuck
May 12, 2011
"Inversions" by Ian M. Banks blew my loving panties off. And "player of games" by Ian M. Banks was so drat good that I considered giving up books...

If any of you are Banks fans, I'm looking for other authors to check out.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

That looks great, thanks

TURGID TOMFOOLERY
Nov 1, 2019

BLDuck posted:

"Inversions" by Ian M. Banks blew my loving panties off. And "player of games" by Ian M. Banks was so drat good that I considered giving up books...

If any of you are Banks fans, I'm looking for other authors to check out.

This looks interesting I will take a look. Thank you for the recommendation.

Quandary
Jan 29, 2008
I'll be visiting Palestine in a few months and am looking for a few books to provide context to the history and conflict there. A friend recommended "One Palestine, Complete" - is it any good? Are there other books that would be better reads? I'm not opposed to relatively thick histories as long as their worth reading.

large_gourd
Jan 17, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i'm going to read the devil's highway, which is about some a tough journey of immigrants through the desert from mexico to the us

does anybody know any good books about this kind of experience - any kind of migrants not going through official channels - from elsewhere in the world? i want to read a few to get a sense of how it happens in different places.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

BLDuck posted:

"Inversions" by Ian M. Banks blew my loving panties off. And "player of games" by Ian M. Banks was so drat good that I considered giving up books...

If any of you are Banks fans, I'm looking for other authors to check out.
A lot of the YOSPOS guys who love Banks also love Hannu Rajaniemi.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

If you’re needing some near future cyberpunk in your life, William Gibson’s Agency just came out. It is a loose sequel to his last book, The Peripheral. I was pretty enthralled by the creative ways he too current technology and pushed it to possible near future logical conclusions in Peripheral, and loved the characters. This new book does not disappoint. It has even more of that type of stuff. My favorite being an app like Uber, called Followr, that lets anyone hire “followers” to track and follow anyone you want. Both books have a lot to say about our current political climate and global warming. Both books love AI and all the antics they can get up to.

I would highly recommend both! I haven’t been able to put Agency down for one minute and in three days I’m already 70% through it.

Borrowed Ladder
May 4, 2007

monarch of the sleeping marches
Hi guys, I'm in a rut because in keep trying to find the perfect book and nothing I start is hooking me.

I was wondering if there was a book that is somehow like Twin Peaks The Return? More so the weirdness with the lodges and the jumping man, not the small town drama.

My favorite authors are Murakami, Palahniuk, Easton Ellis and then, I dunno, a bunch of random one offs I guess - House of Leaves, Raw Shark Texts, Book of The New Sun?

I feel like I've just been reading all the Murakami novels for the past few years. Now I'm looking for something along the same lines but a bit more exciting, bit more ramped up.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Borrowed Ladder posted:

Hi guys, I'm in a rut because in keep trying to find the perfect book and nothing I start is hooking me.

I was wondering if there was a book that is somehow like Twin Peaks The Return? More so the weirdness with the lodges and the jumping man, not the small town drama.

My favorite authors are Murakami, Palahniuk, Easton Ellis and then, I dunno, a bunch of random one offs I guess - House of Leaves, Raw Shark Texts, Book of The New Sun?

I feel like I've just been reading all the Murakami novels for the past few years. Now I'm looking for something along the same lines but a bit more exciting, bit more ramped up.

probs an indirect fit, but Vorrh by Catling is weird as hell to read.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I'd say the Charlie Parker novels but they actually kind of suck.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Borrowed Ladder posted:

I feel like I've just been reading all the Murakami novels for the past few years. Now I'm looking for something along the same lines but a bit more exciting, bit more ramped up.
Coin Locker Babies.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Borrowed Ladder posted:

Hi guys, I'm in a rut because in keep trying to find the perfect book and nothing I start is hooking me.

I was wondering if there was a book that is somehow like Twin Peaks The Return? More so the weirdness with the lodges and the jumping man, not the small town drama.

My favorite authors are Murakami, Palahniuk, Easton Ellis and then, I dunno, a bunch of random one offs I guess - House of Leaves, Raw Shark Texts, Book of The New Sun?

I feel like I've just been reading all the Murakami novels for the past few years. Now I'm looking for something along the same lines but a bit more exciting, bit more ramped up.

Jose Saramago. Especially Blindness, The Double, All the Names

Wolf in White Van, kinda

The Magus, also kinda

Ship of Theseus

Borrowed Ladder
May 4, 2007

monarch of the sleeping marches

StrixNebulosa posted:


probs an indirect fit, but Vorrh by Catling is weird as hell to read.



This sound pretty rad I'm gonna give it a shot


Sham bam bamina! posted:


Coin Locker Babies.



I'm thinking I might need a break from the nuisances of Japan but I'll probably come back to this later in the year


regulargonzalez posted:


Jose Saramago. Especially Blindness, The Double, All the Names


Wolf in White Van, kinda


The Magus, also kinda


Ship of Theseus



I've read Wolf and Magus, they're good and good suggestions. I own Ship but haven't read it because I feel like all the little insert pictures are important and I don't want to have to keep track of them. I'll get to it someday.


I really love the film Enemy so Saragamo should be a good fit.


Thanks guys!

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
https://twitter.com/alloy_dr/status/1223203562194395137?s=20

BLDuck
May 12, 2011

Sham bam bamina! posted:

A lot of the YOSPOS guys who love Banks also love Hannu Rajaniemi.

I'll go check his stuff out. Thanks, man.

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A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Borrowed Ladder posted:

Hi guys, I'm in a rut because in keep trying to find the perfect book and nothing I start is hooking me.

I was wondering if there was a book that is somehow like Twin Peaks The Return? More so the weirdness with the lodges and the jumping man, not the small town drama.

My favorite authors are Murakami, Palahniuk, Easton Ellis and then, I dunno, a bunch of random one offs I guess - House of Leaves, Raw Shark Texts, Book of The New Sun?

I feel like I've just been reading all the Murakami novels for the past few years. Now I'm looking for something along the same lines but a bit more exciting, bit more ramped up.

You should check out Blinding by Mircea Cartarescu, it whips rear end.

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