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GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
https://twitter.com/peterjgowan/status/1216553227900129280

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 24 days!)

There's a big difference between being against voting as an anti-electoral praxis, and actively campaigning against voting by attacking canvassers and propagandizing it.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

I knew two people who later moved to Austin to join RGA. One of them got kicked out for trying to introduce "authentic relating" to the group which was way to hippyish for them. They posted a long screed denouncing him, and the other one who used to be his best bud even harrassed him on Facebook for it using a nom de guerre. They're incredibly goofy and self own constantly, but I don't think it's a psyop. It's somehow too dumb for even that. It's just a bizarre cult, and actually I'm incredibly surprised to hear they're still around. They announced that they had disbanded about a year ago and haven't had any online presence since, where they used to post all the time because what's the point of spraying graffiti on signs or hanging up pig heads if nobody knows about it?

I'd be fascinated to get the whole story of what happened to them, hopefully somebody makes a documentary about them someday.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

On second thought maybe they are rats lol. Before they disbanded, their leader, "Comrade Dallas" had been in jail for a few months. Maybe he made a deal to get out. That would also explain the lack of posting; why bother to spread the ideology if you're now the worst kind of class enemy

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

They're incredibly goofy and self own constantly, but I don't think it's a psyop. It's somehow too dumb for even that. It's just a bizarre cult, and actually I'm incredibly surprised to hear they're still around. They announced that they had disbanded about a year ago and haven't had any online presence since,

Notably, this was at the start of the fed govt shutdown, after which someone did restart their online presence in some form.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

i think they are just dumbshits tbh, but psyop or not the result is the same

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
did anything result from those charges? seemed to mysteriously go away. i think the truth about whether they're a cult or cointelpro is probably both/and though. one thing that hasn't been talked about much is how they successfully cowed the austin socialist collective into disbanding through death threats pasted on the members' doors at night with names of family members etc. -- a level of detail that not even the ASC had about its own members. the pressure was too much so the members gave up organizing. from what i heard they're convinced they were targeted by state suppression. a pro-trump fascist group (less active now) called the texas nomads also gloated about a RGA doxx of an "SRA" guy (different group from the main SRA) who was hassling them in the days before the RGA actually published it. very curious.

its gets weirder. the RGA then vandalized the property of one of the fascist guys, who then organized a small protest against "left wing violence." some anarchist types showed up to counter, nothing happened though, and then feds showed up hassling the anarchist bookstore in town. seemed like a setup

the fascist guy who had his property vandalized a few months ago more recently showed up to hassle / do provocation at a DSA antiwar protest, and RGA was quick to publish an article denouncing DSA for not escalating to violence against the guy, which therefore makes the DSA, according to RGA, by extension fascists who can be attacked by RGA. pressure comes from both directions

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 13, 2020

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



heidi is good, this sucks

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


THS posted:

i think they are just dumbshits tbh, but psyop or not the result is the same

idk theyve gone really a lot farther than just being dumb maoist larpers. i dont think theyre all cops but they definitely have some in there pushing them to do poo poo like death threats against leftists

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

I knew two people who later moved to Austin to join RGA. One of them got kicked out for trying to introduce "authentic relating" to the group which was way to hippyish for them. They posted a long screed denouncing him, and the other one who used to be his best bud even harrassed him on Facebook for it using a nom de guerre. They're incredibly goofy and self own constantly, but I don't think it's a psyop. It's somehow too dumb for even that. It's just a bizarre cult, and actually I'm incredibly surprised to hear they're still around. They announced that they had disbanded about a year ago and haven't had any online presence since, where they used to post all the time because what's the point of spraying graffiti on signs or hanging up pig heads if nobody knows about it?

I'd be fascinated to get the whole story of what happened to them, hopefully somebody makes a documentary about them someday.
they still exist but constantly change names / front groups. them being dumb and goofy also doesn't exclude the possibility they're being used or at least steered or whatever. i was reading a book about the black panthers recently and i was struck by how the government would use agents. like at one point this wild and crazy violent guy got into the group because some white middle class student radicals in san diego were so wowed by how nuts he was that he couldn't possibly be an agent (durrr hurrr) and then recommended him to the panthers, and he wowed them by offering to root out spies within their group. cue this guy snitchjacketing various panthers and pushing the group into torturing and executing those people, and then feeding that info to the govt which made arrests and went public with the lurid tale of the crazy black power radicals who are killing their own members, with the wild and crazy agent appearing before congress in a suit to explain in detail!

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

GunnerJ posted:

Notably, this was at the start of the fed govt shutdown, after which someone did restart their online presence in some form.

I mean...they might be a psyop but how would this affect anything? The country could default on its debt and the cops would still have a budget

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
If the RGA even remotely believed in their message of violent resistance they would just start a terrorist bombing campaign and slowly turn into the Weathermen (with similar results), that they havent and exclusively target other left wing groups means they are either cowards, larouchite style morons who shift to the far right in a few years or cops.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

On second thought maybe they are rats lol. Before they disbanded, their leader, "Comrade Dallas" had been in jail for a few months. Maybe he made a deal to get out. That would also explain the lack of posting; why bother to spread the ideology if you're now the worst kind of class enemy
also if i remember right it was a felony firearms charge because he had a prior felony for graffiti as a teenager or something (i consulted leonard j. crabs, attorney at law, with questions about how much graffiti it would take to catch a felony and crabs replied "a fuckton, now where's the loving money you owe me from last time you pencil-necked dweeb!!!"). he got in trouble with local cops for threatening (with a gun) someone who had stolen some of his books. i think his defense was that it was his girlfriend's gun which doesn't fly: you're not even allowed to touch a gun with a felony background.

but felon-in-possession is pretty selectively enforced. as a tool it's often used to scoop up radicals.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
also i think the govt shutdown thing is a meme / joke about them being cops (for other reasons) rather than evidence. i don't think the timelines match and the image might've been shopped. funny gag though

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

what happened to the Kansas City red guard that disrupted that dsa meeting , was that the same group that just took a road trip to Missouri or something?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


if rga is like the larouchites, who's their larouche?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Doc Hawkins posted:

if rga is like the larouchites, who's their larouche?

darkman fanpage

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I mostly don't think they're feds because I refuse to believe the feds could run a campaign that cleanly and effectively

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

freckle posted:

darkman fanpage

i wish.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

[Goon Project] there’s enough austin area people in this thread that we should all join the red guards as a bit

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

THS posted:

[Goon Project] there’s enough austin area people in this thread that we should all join the red guards as a bit

make a seperate thread in GiP for this IMO

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


not with this attitude

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

we all join and then use democratic centralism to make them volunteer for HAAM

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

but seriously why are there so many commies in austin

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

i say swears online posted:

but seriously why are there so many commies in austin

there arent

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1216608633825452032

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



😬

https://twitter.com/FugaziTruther/status/1216609042988261378

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

but seriously why are there so many commies in austin
i think red guards has a presence there more than other cities because weirdos literally move there to join them like a jim jones cult

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

red guards is absolutely like two or three feds grooming mentally unstable dudes they find on the internet into terrorists

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Varinn posted:

red guards is absolutely like two or three feds grooming mentally unstable dudes they find on the internet into terrorists

hell, I buy it

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Varinn posted:

red guards is absolutely like two or three feds grooming mentally unstable dudes they find on the internet into terrorists

That makes the most sense to me. Although it seems kinda pointless, the status quo in the US alone acts as a strong deterrent against poor people of colour from getting out to vote.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dreylad posted:

That makes the most sense to me. Although it seems kinda pointless, the status quo in the US alone acts as a strong deterrent against poor people of colour from getting out to vote.
the govt infiltrates moms for peace type groups

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

the govt infiltrates moms for peace type groups

Yeah I know, they'll infiltrate any organization they can, if only to justify their budget spending.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Varinn posted:

red guards is absolutely like two or three feds grooming mentally unstable dudes they find on the internet into terrorists

Right. so about cspam.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
hey see the corpse of FYAD... let's poke it with a stick!

-- me to cspam

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Homeless Friend posted:

Right. so about cspam.

lmao

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Homeless Friend posted:

Right. so about cspam.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Homeless Friend posted:

Right. so about cspam.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Homeless Friend posted:

Right. so about cspam.

Lol

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freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
you're all under arrest

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