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if Antonio Brown’s behavior seems odd or unexplainable just search “Antonio Brown Burfict hit” and things will become clear
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Jan 15, 2020 08:26
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https://www.businessinsider.com/video-antonio-brown-throws-penis-candy-curses-at-police-2020-1 He's too stupid to be afraid of anything.
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The Burfict hit to his head in 2016 was the single worst headshot I’ve ever seen in a football game. He’s lucky he didn’t die. It is no surprise that his brain is now only semi-functional.
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Jan 15, 2020 09:09
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Marching Powder posted:Here's some fan fiction to enjoy. “Letterbox” and Antonio Brown doesn’t sexually assault anyone or threaten to kill his kids’ mom, you can tell this was written by an Australian who has no idea who Antonio Brown is
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Marin Karin posted:personally i'm rooting for a hellmouth to open beneath the canvas and consume both men into hellfire Same but also the rest of the Earth.
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Jan 15, 2020 15:58
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Marching Powder posted:maybe it's different at the highest level but i will be shocked if antonio doesn't gas after ~1 round like every other guy on earth in his first fight It's not like Paul has a great gas tank though and you'd have to imagine that playing football at the highest level for your whole life is going to give you a bit more stamina taking thirst trap selfies and recording vlogs. E: to be clear, Logan Paul is a pretty athletic dude and would kick my rear end, but I just don't see him having any type of athletic advantage on AB, I also think that of the two AB is going to have a much bigger desire to win and probably more heart in the ring.
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Jan 15, 2020 18:54
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DeimosRising posted:“Letterbox” and Antonio Brown doesn’t sexually assault anyone or threaten to kill his kids’ mom, you can tell this was written by an Australian who has no idea who Antonio Brown is Lol and would knowing who Antonio Brown is negate him from the extremely unique pressures placed on people who have never fought before? Jump King posted:It's not like Paul has a great gas tank though and you'd have to imagine that playing football at the highest level for your whole life is going to give you a bit more stamina taking thirst trap selfies and recording vlogs. Logan Paul is not a fifth of the athlete Antonio is. But two fights experience under these sorts of conditions is a remarkable leveller. Here's ex-UFC and NFL commentator Mike Goldberg to talk about the 'UFC jitters' professional fighters still visibly get when first fighting in an event of this size: "Thanks Joe, I'm a loving amphetamine addict, corn to the core."
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Jan 15, 2020 23:38
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Brown's played in the super bowl. I'm sure he'll have some unique pressure and jitters from a fight, but I think he's going to be able to figure that stuff out sooner than guys who haven't been on a big stage before.
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Antonio Brown didn't even knock out Mike Mayock in a hallway, I don't think he's got power in his hands
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Jump King posted:Brown's played in the super bowl. I'm sure he'll have some unique pressure and jitters from a fight, but I think he's going to be able to figure that stuff out sooner than guys who haven't been on a big stage before. It's really difficult to verbalise the difference in nerves between stepping into a stadium before an audience of millions and playing a very specific roll that you've been trained to be an absolute expert at since before you could reliably make it to the toilet before you pee, and stepping into a stadium before an audience of millions and engaging in the universally recognised determination of one's masculinity that you've been trained to do for a couple of months. And also the person you are fighting is so universally detested that you will get zero credit for beating him and a lifetime of unending scorn for losing to him.
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Marching Powder posted:It's really difficult to verbalise the difference in nerves between stepping into a stadium before an audience of millions and playing a very specific roll that you've been trained to be an absolute expert at since before you could reliably make it to the toilet before you pee, and stepping into a stadium before an audience of millions and engaging in the universally recognised determination of one's masculinity that you've been trained to do for a couple of months. And also the person you are fighting is so universally detested that you will get zero credit for beating him and a lifetime of unending scorn for losing to him. Yeah I also think about Logan Paul when I talk about great boxers.
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mexican willie posted:Yeah I also think about Logan Paul when I talk about great boxers. i'd like to fully admit that i definitely said logan paul was a great boxer, and further i definitely said that in the paragraph he quoted.
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Maybe it would be instructive to look at one Aaron Pico. Pico was a stud wrestler who at 19 was the first teenager to be invited to the Olympic trials in 40 years and the reason he didn't make the team was basically providence. He won impressive accolades on enormous stages in the sport. Still not content, he started boxing where he won 2 consecutive golden gloves comps winning 'most outstanding fighter' at each. In 2014, Pico garnered major sponsorships (including a Nike shoe deal) and was basically paid to prepare to become the next big thing in MMA. He debuted in 2017 against an 8-2 fighter who still worked a job. 24 seconds later Pico was rendered insensible. Hmmm..... Nah..... That ain't it.... Maybe it would be instructive to look at CM Punk. Punk has performed in front of audiences Dana White would kill every poor child on Earth to regularly court half of. Punk is so at ease in front of crowds he is the only person to this day that could maintain both conversation and an intimidatingly powerful stream in front of piss collection's most unsettling agent. He trained for a full year at a champion's camp and surrounded by champions, but lost in the most humiliating way possible to the worst most credible fighter they could find - Mickey Gall. 2 fights. Now look, Mickey Gall had a shitload of training and experience before his two pro wins and Logan's 2 fights don't count for nearly as much, but I hope I'm making clear that being used to big stages and world class camps have historically taken a back seat to people who have gone out there and had a loving fight or two.
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Marching Powder posted:and also the person you are fighting is so universally detested that you will get zero credit for beating him and a lifetime of unending scorn for losing to him. At this point I'm not sure you know who AB is. Or even Paul for that matter. As for your other examples, those I admit I don't know much about the 8-2 fighter that Aaron Pico lost to or Mickey Gall, but I'm going to assume that they want to be fighters, or at the very least they're drawn to scrapping to some degree. Logan Paul isn't like that. This isn't a situation where one face guy with empty hype gets brought down by an underdog trying his best. This is two empty hype guys going at it. To your point, I'm sure if Antonio Brown fights Logan Paul then he's going to react with a certain type of fight nervousness that he has never had to deal with before, but I don't think it's going to make him lose. Logan Paul may have more experience in the ring, but if you watched him fight he's just not a fighter. He doesn't like fighting. Does Brown? I have no clue, but if KSI can beat Logan Paul on heart alone, I certainly think Brown could.
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Jump King posted:At this point I'm not sure you know who AB is. Or even Paul for that matter. i know ab is a football player who spends 100% of his time in hyper-masculine environments and logan paul exploits children for profit using loopholes in regulations we desperately need to close. and yes, gall and the guy with no wikipedia page were themselves fighters, but fighters who have been fighting professionally in front of thousands live will tell you the difference between that and something like the UFC - where you are being broadcast to millions. logan paul has the edge over ab in both time spent in that high pressure situation and time spent actually fighting a fully resisting opponent while in that high pressure situation. i understand it's your position that this doesn't count for poo poo, but in my experience it should, at least, even the odds and perhaps even tip them in logan's favour.
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Marching Powder posted:Maybe it would be instructive to look at CM Punk. Lol, no, cuz you can tell CM doesn't have a bone of athleticism in his body.
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kimbo305 posted:Lol, no, cuz you can tell CM doesn't have a bone of athleticism in his body. i was coming at it from a 'performing in front of an intimidating number of people in an industry you're a titan of isn't even worth bringing up here my friend' angle. i'm not sure how that didn't translate but the accusation that i thought cm punk was in any way competent is definitely insulting.
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ufc, but i think comparable to headlining a ppv watched by millionsquote:"I fought two great big guys in that tournament. The first guy was 300 pounds, the second was about 290 ... I remember being about ready to piss my pants walking into that cage. I wasn't sure if I wanted to climb the fence and run or stand in there and fight."
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Jan 16, 2020 08:09
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How many fights till Logan Paul fights Anthony Joshua? Make it happen Eddie Hearn
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A better example would be Brock Lesnar, beast of a man that can win on strength alone without knowing the technical details of professional fighting.
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AB is an elite athlete, but the NFL is really about short bursts of speed/strength, not the endurance of 12 rounds in the ring. The games average a little over 3 hours, but the ball is actually in play for maybe 12 minutes. And AB would only be playing for half of that. So 6 minutes over 3 hours. Now, that's 6 minutes of absolute balls-to-the-wall effort in a fast, brutal game that demands enormous pain tolerance, but it's still 6 minutes. I nevertheless assume that he'll obliterate LP if he takes his training even somewhat seriously.
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Marching Powder posted:i know ab is a football player who spends 100% of his time in hyper-masculine environments and logan paul exploits children for profit using loopholes in regulations we desperately need to close. I’m not saying that it doesn’t count for poo poo, but I don’t think Logan Paul is capable of exploiting it because he’s a rich pretty boy who does not like to be punched and gasses after two rounds. He frankly doesn’t have to try hard at fighting because his success doesn’t depend on that. Very different situation than overlooked unrated underdogs who want nothing more than to beat an A-side opponent. AB is already going to be getting unending scorn for the rest of his life as it is so I doubt he’s going to be losing his wig about his public perception after a Logan Paul fight. It’s also true that football isn’t about endurance but I’m perhaps wrongly assuming that any nfl player has probably spent more time in his life working on cardio than Logan Paul has to.
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“Fighting in front of a crowd for the first time will unnerve anybody, it’s a crazy effect” “Yeah but Logan Paul is bad” “Yeah but when it’s your first time in front of a crowd a bad opponent can beat you” “Paul has no heart” Repeat forever I guess
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I mean there are plenty of people who fought in front of a crowd the first time & didn’t immediately die. Leon Spinks got knocked out by a debuting fighter in the 90s, some guy with a shitload of nervous energy who used it effectively
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Marching Powder posted:performing in front of an intimidating number of people in an industry you're a titan of I'm sure there's some nerves from being a pro wrestling performer, but it's not the same as an athletic competition with no predetermined flow and outcome.
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kimbo305 posted:I'm sure there's some nerves from being a pro wrestling performer, but it's not the same as an athletic competition with no predetermined flow and outcome. i could have sworn this was my entire point for like half a dozen unnecessarily long posts
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Marching Powder posted:i could have sworn this was my entire point for like half a dozen unnecessarily long posts I thought you were trying to equate: - pro wrestling show nerves being insufficient prep for combat sports - nfl pro game nerves being insufficient prep for combat sports which I was arguing against.
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kimbo305 posted:I thought you were trying to equate: i was equating those things, but i had no idea you were making that point when you pointed to punk's negative athleticism. i'd like to hear your argument for why either of those things are sufficient prep for an unscripted fist fight when you suck at fighting.
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Marching Powder posted:i was equating those things, but i had no idea you were making that point when you pointed to punk's negative athleticism. i'd like to hear your argument for why either of those things are sufficient prep for an unscripted fist fight when you suck at fighting. he's saying that the nerves of playing football (america's biggest sport) and in the superbowl (america's most watches sporting event) will get you much more equipped for the nerves of a fight than being a pro wrestler does.
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antonio brown for some reason: ooh ahh, being in front of a big crowd to engage in a tough physical sport where I have to show off how tough i am and might get really hurt really unsettles me! I hate this! I'm going to get hurt by america's richest vlogger
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Jump King posted:antonio brown for some reason: ooh ahh, being in front of a big crowd to engage in a tough physical sport where I have to show off how tough i am and might get really hurt really unsettles me! I hate this! I'm going to get hurt by america's richest vlogger it's really cute you think this when there are several first hand accounts from actual, experienced fighters before their first fight in front of a national audience all saying how close to pissing themselves / running away they were. good to know that a guy playing a sport in a helmet and armour with 63 other people is so well prepared to deal with that particular pressure.
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Look at this pussy with his body armor, no doubt making GBS threads his pants over the prospect of a Logan Paul jab. https://youtu.be/-tfLncD3pGM
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K-1, but remember Bob Sapp knocked out Ernesto Hoost twice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-1m-q4etk
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Look at this pussy with his body armor, no doubt making GBS threads his pants over the prospect of a Logan Paul jab. https://youtu.be/-tfLncD3pGM hahaha you people are so loving insecure about how masculine football is perceived to be
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Marching Powder posted:hahaha you people are so loving insecure about how masculine football is perceived to be That wasn’t the point dumbass
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GalacticAcid posted:That wasn’t the point dumbass yeah i'm sure you tedious, pouting dweebs will get round to spelling it out for my dumb rear end soon and i'm really looking forwward to it. they should be studying skin this thin and made entirely of wedgies.
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spelling things out doesn’t help for people who can’t read
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GalacticAcid posted:spelling things out doesn’t help for people who can’t read ah. good one.
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