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what's the point of even watching dragon ball if you can't shoehorn the fact you watched the latino dub and that it's better into every convo?
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Skeleton Mom posted:honestly what i'd like is more stuff like early namek saga where characters have to be crafty and stealthy around villains that would crush them like a bug in a direct confrontation... but since that doesn't involve many fights we probably won't see something like that in modern dragon ball In some ways it's become the opposite, where our guys are so souped up it's the villains who have to keep playing it sneaky and coming up with tricks and traps to stay competitive. Siegkrow posted:As a basic, decent human being: it is truly sad that he has passed away and I understand he touched many of your hearts. Tell us more how much you don't care.
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Jan 21, 2020 14:57
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Stairmaster posted:they literally did in BoG and RoF In BoG everyone gets clowned on by Beerus in about the space of a minute and whilst RoF is better it's largely just the gang blowing up waves of goons with their one signature move. To be more specific it's cool were finally getting a Super arc where the Z Fighters have a proper space in the plot and two of the most underserved characters (Gohan & Piccolo) actually have a good properly choreographed fight which plays to the strength of their characters and their relationship.
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Gohan + Piccolo father-son team-up in matching gis is a def highlight for sure.
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Now we have three father-son moves and I think they all are really cool. Father-Son Kamehameha is super iconic, Father-Son Galick Gun is excellent and Father-Son Masenkosappo is what I wanted for so long. Too bad Goten and Trunks will never be relevant so they won't get the same treatment. Goten has the Family Kamehameha, I guess.
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Jan 21, 2020 15:27
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Blaze Dragon posted:Too bad Goten and Trunks will never be relevant so they won't get the same treatment. Goten has the Family Kamehameha, I guess. Goten and Trunks are like some vestigial element of the Buu Saga that never got repurposed or reworked to function in a world where their dads -- one of whom is a literal grandfather -- still remain the central focus of the series. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Goten was designed specifically for the purposes of evoking classic Kid Goku elements in a series where Gohan was supposed to be the central focus at the time. An idea that quickly got sidelined, and probably for the best. And Kid Trunks is just never going to be half as cool or interesting as his future self, which means that Gotenks is all the two have going for them. I still think a funny low-stakes Park Ranger adventure would be one way you could use them -- and Marron -- without the troublesome element of involving literal children in galactic life or death battles.
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Jan 21, 2020 15:40
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Hmm. It's been a while since this saga started, so pardon me if I'm forgetting, but has Freeza been shown at all? I figure with Moro going around causing havoc, the guy who ostensibly owns half the universe would have noticed by now. I know people are tired of Freeza showing up in every arc at this point, but...I'm not. His interactions with everyone are always a treat. Freeza! Freeza, Freeza!
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Jan 21, 2020 16:33
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Nanigans posted:Hmm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trT-QaYV4NM
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Jan 21, 2020 16:36
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Nanigans posted:Hmm. Plus the Androids and Buu have been helpful in this arc!
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Jan 21, 2020 17:32
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The Frieza Force is going to show up and help defend Earth from these losers trying to muscle in on their territory.
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Rhonne posted:The Frieza Force is going to show up and help defend Earth from these losers trying to muscle in on their territory. Holy poo poo that would be amazing.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:11
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Broly established that Freeza has hit the point where he doesn't give a poo poo who kills Goku as long as somebody does and he gets to watch so I doubt he's going to show up and help
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Jan 21, 2020 18:25
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Blockhouse posted:Broly established that Freeza has hit the point where he doesn't give a poo poo who kills Goku as long as somebody does and he gets to watch so I doubt he's going to show up and help Goku, Vegeta and Morro are in a pitched battle, it could go either way They're all going all out Suddenly, from the heavens, Freeza emerges! He produces a lawn chair and relaxes nearby. "Oh no, don't mind me, you keep going." He snidely chides Morro when he fails to kill Goku and leaves like a huffy showbiz mom.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:37
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Freeza’s busy stealing the time rings to go watch Goku die of a heart virus.
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TheHan posted:Freezas busy stealing the time rings to go watch Goku die of a heart virus. He just keeps going back and forth in time while laughing like a madman. Whis looks at it, thinks whether he should interfere or not, decides it's probably fine.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:06
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Goten and Trunks are like some vestigial element of the Buu Saga that never got repurposed or reworked to function in a world where their dads -- one of whom is a literal grandfather -- still remain the central focus of the series. Aren’t goten, kid trunks and gotenks somewhat popular in Japan? I think I remember that being a thing
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Jan 21, 2020 19:22
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Namtab posted:Aren’t goten, kid trunks and gotenks somewhat popular in Japan? I think I remember that being a thing Here's the top five from the Buu saga popularity poll  Goten and Trunks also scored top ten in the 2005 Dragon Ball Forever poll (though it should be pointed out neither of these polls differentiated between present or Future Trunks)
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Jan 21, 2020 19:38
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lmao Gohan's not even in the top five characters for the arc that was supposedly his own, and proceeding the arc where he became the most powerful and defeated the main villain. Gohan could be more. They could make him the family man who is eager to get the battle over with so he can get back to his wife and kid and job/school so he trains to make his wins swift and efficient. It would make him unique amongst the cast, even compared to the similar Krillin whose role has become "the guy who's not sure if he should even be here, but constantly demonstrates that yes, he should." But making him Piccolo's tag-team partner in the way that Trunks and Goten are basically attached at the hip works too, albeit in a more boring (but not bad!) way.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:56
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Burkion posted:Goku, Vegeta and Morro are in a pitched battle, it could go either way Before the final battle, we get a flashback to Morro telling Frieza how he plans to kill Goku and Vegeta and destroy Earth and Frieza just laughs in his face and tells him good luck with that.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:09
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Blockhouse posted:Here's the top five from the Buu saga popularity poll For someone as popular as Piccolo he sure is low on the power scale. I suppose I at least have to appreciate his lack of popularity power up.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:32
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It could be the case that Gohans narrative arc of being the kid that doesn't particularly want to be there didn't resonate well in Japan.
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Namtab posted:It could be the case that Gohans narrative arc of being the kid that doesn't particularly want to be there didn't resonate well in Japan. Nah, he was #1 in the Cell Saga poll and like #3 on the Dragon Ball Forever poll The issue is that poll's voting started around Gotenks vs Super Buu, where Gohan had been loving around with the Kais for like three volumes at that point Burkion posted:Do we have any more updated ones? Nope 2005 was the last one e: I've posted this a lot in this thread but for reference the full list: quote:1.Son Goku: 6,235 points and for funsies, the fight popularity poll:: quote:1.Son Goku vs. Freeza: 4,260 points Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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Jan 21, 2020 20:40
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There was an unofficial poll done through the Sports Nippon newspaper a little over a year ago.   This seems like it was right around the time of the release of the Broli movie, so maybe the results would be different if held today.
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Jan 21, 2020 21:10
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Not sure what everyone's so excited about, Yamcha always made it through the prelims.
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He didn't get picked for the ToP or Universe 6 tourney or to fight Freeza's goons, didn't try to fight Beerus, or Boo, and the last time he engaged an enemy, he got a hole through his chest. I think it's pretty understandable to be excited that the guy took out multiple enemies single handed.
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Nanigans posted:He didn't get picked for the ToP or Universe 6 tourney or to fight Freeza's goons, didn't try to fight Beerus, or Boo, and the last time he engaged an enemy, he got a hole through his chest. Gero was a mid-boss and it was 1v1, of course Yamcha lost to him. But he's got a perfect record against nameless grunts in mass brawls. Specialist.
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He did the baseball and no one can take that away from him
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multijoe posted:He did the baseball and no one can take that away from him When it comes down to it, he's the only mortal in the entire series to have beaten a fully-fledged God of Destruction on-screen.
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sassassin posted:Gero was a mid-boss and it was 1v1, of course Yamcha lost to him. But he's got a perfect record against nameless grunts in mass brawls. Specialist. he died to a saibaman
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Kild posted:he died to a saibaman He kicked its rear end. The next time we even see a self destruct as a technique it's big man Cell. For whatever reason the Saibaman had one cool trick that people don't expect. Please, let's all be kind to Yamcha.
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He cheated on Bulma and missed out on marrying the world's smartest and richest woman, he deserves all the mockery he gets 
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Shinjobi posted:He kicked its rear end. On one hand you're right, it was a cheap shot. On the other hand Krillin kills like 5 Saibamen basically instantly a minute later. Krillin.
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ImpAtom posted:On one hand you're right, it was a cheap shot. Krillin has had the option to beat Vegeta to death twice and only left him of his own mercy
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Shinjobi posted:He kicked its rear end. The next time we see a self-destruct it's Chiaotzu, and only a bit after the Saibaman's too. And it sure works a lot less. Tribladeofchaos posted:He cheated on Bulma and missed out on marrying the world's smartest and richest woman, he deserves all the mockery he gets Dubtext. That's never stated in the original and goes against Yamcha's character.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Krillin has had the option to beat Vegeta to death twice and only left him of his own mercy Fun fact: Krillin has beaten Vegeta more times than Goku has. Blaze Dragon posted:Dubtext. That's never stated in the original and goes against Yamcha's character. There is literally a series of sidequests in Kakarot which are about Puar trying to keep Yamcha's multiple girlfriends under control while he is dead. Yamcha being a playboy is not a dub invention.
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Yamcha really is a lot like his son, both are disproportionately strong for the effort they put in and spend their time doing other things than train constantly and their lives are richer for it
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TheKingofSprings posted:Yamcha really is a lot like his son, both are disproportionately strong for the effort they put in and spend their time doing other things than train constantly and their lives are richer for it The nice thing about this joke is the implication that ChiChi is Sayian, which I appreciate
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Blaze Dragon posted:The next time we see a self-destruct it's Chiaotzu, and only a bit after the Saibaman's too. And it sure works a lot less.  Nope! Yamcha's VA even went to Toriyama and asked about it and he just told him "come on Yamcha is totally a playboy"
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Tribladeofchaos posted:
The funny thing is people probably thought Goku would get with Bulma up until Chichi showed up out of nowhere again
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