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euphronius posted:It definitely should have been two movies with the palp reveal being the cliffhanger into episode 9 episode 2. Oh well. Imho Uh and how would that promote canon synergy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vHrQCKaJiQ I still can't believe THE EMPEROR WAS ALIVE THE WHOLE TIME was handled like this lmao
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dublish posted:Oh yay. A second movie for Rey and co. to spend 5 minutes each on a dozen successive planets. Well and I guess abrams should not have been the director That goes without saying
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Nah miniôns are here to stay. The Mandalorian isn’t nearly as accessible - it’s on a smaller streaming platform, a less fun genre and has very few hijinks- minions are in kids movies so there’s no barrier to seeing them. Also by virtue of being a multiple they lend themselves to memes better. We should nuke Facebooks data centre.
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Finally watched the Mandalorian and it’s hilarious how afraid Disney is of giving the aliens in it any hint of ethnicity in regards to their language. Almost all the aliens speak Americanized English.
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Jan 29, 2020 04:07
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Werner Herzog is not speaking American English
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ruddiger posted:Finally watched the Mandalorian and it’s hilarious how afraid Disney is of giving the aliens in it any hint of ethnicity in regards to their language. Almost all the aliens speak Americanized English. To be fair, when George Lucas tried to do that millions of people said it was racist of him
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ruddiger posted:Finally watched the Mandalorian and it’s hilarious how afraid Disney is of giving the aliens in it any hint of ethnicity in regards to their language. Almost all the aliens speak Americanized English. listen to what people have convinced themselves the trade federation aliens in the prequels sound like and it's kinda hard to blame disney too hard on that one
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euphronius posted:Werner Herzog is not speaking American English I forgot to add that, and the white guy in the beginning of the first episode is speaking huttese. So humans can speak in accents, but ugnaughts and whatever that blue guy was speak in flat “basic”. The closest we got to an alien accent in basic was the twileks doing the tough guy growling thing, which isn’t really an accent. I did laugh at Bill Burr making fun of Gungan accents tho. Space racism is alive and well in the new republic.
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Brother Entropy posted:by the end of 2020 baby yoda will have totally subsumed minions in facebook aunt subculture Can't wait for Baby Yoda chud memes
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Don't forget that there was also something of a Star Wars zombie apocalypse. You had Death Troopers as well as Red Harvest. Red Harvest is set during the time of the Old Republic and features one Jedi character stealing Liam Neesons "set of skills" speech from Taken. Death Troopers is set between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope and features Han Solo and Chewbacca, among others, fighting George Romero style zombies on a Star Destroyer. Everyone fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Everyone posted:Don't forget that there was also something of a Star Wars zombie apocalypse. quote:Darth Scabrous Lol
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I don't get those who say RoS should have been two movies. So much of the movie feels pointless and wasted! It was barely one movie!
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MonsieurChoc posted:I don't get those who say RoS should have been two movies. So much of the movie feels pointless and wasted! It was barely one movie! I think what they mean is that it should have been the only two movies. And, like, they’re not wrong. ROS is where the story finally begins: a Vader worshipper researching Sith history accidentally resurrects Palpatine, Palpatine begins helping to create a New Republic, and our OT heroes are confronted with their ideological failings because “wait - we’ve been serving Palpatine this whole time?” The only trouble is that this is haphazardly crammed into one film, the OT characters are all dead, and the final lesson is a dumbass “don’t be afraid of who you are” - which, in this political context, means to just love capitalism. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Brother Entropy posted:by the end of 2020 baby yoda will have totally subsumed minions in facebook aunt subculture It's definitely already surpassed Groot in "things people with 3D printers post prints of".
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I'm trying to think of anything from 7 and 8 that youd need to know about before seeing 9 and I cant think of anything.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The only trouble is that this is haphazardly crammed into one film, the OT characters are all dead, and the final lesson is a dumbass “don’t be afraid of who you are” "But also, change your name at the earliest opportunity."
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Uncle Wemus posted:I'm trying to think of anything from 7 and 8 that youd need to know about before seeing 9 and I cant think of anything. Kylo killing Han? Though I think that blockbusters, good or bad, are generally made for an audience that may not have seen or remember previous films.
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ruddiger posted:Finally watched the Mandalorian and it’s hilarious how afraid Disney is of giving the aliens in it any hint of ethnicity in regards to their language. Almost all the aliens speak Americanized English. this doesn’t feel awful to me. They don’t want to give them accents because they don’t want to map these random alien species onto our ethnicities. I don’t know enough about linguistics to be sure, but coming up with new accents and training actors to convincingly deliver them would probably be enough of a pain that we’d get less aliens as a result. Neo Rasa posted:Uh and how would that promote canon synergy? Someone else said it but it feels like they revealed this via trailer and weird rear end video game tie in just to get us in the mindset of “Sheev is back.” Can you imagine going into the theater completely blind on opening night and being told Palps is alive out of fuckin nowhere
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Angry Salami posted:"But also, change your name at the earliest opportunity." Worked for Obi-Wan, Vader and Kylo
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Boxman posted:this doesn’t feel awful to me. They don’t want to give them accents because they don’t want to map these random alien species onto our ethnicities. But they have an accent, and are being “mapped“ to an ethnicity in that way - they just all talk like upper middle class white Americans. the presupposition that this is the default is the problem
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the Expanse manages to make the Belta creole sound like a bunch of different accents at once. I don't see why Star Wars couldn't try something similar.
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The Little Death posted:the Expanse manages to make the Belta creole sound like a bunch of different accents at once. I don't see why Star Wars couldn't try something similar. Part of it is they don't want to use subtitles too much, but if they didn't have that restriction it would be a lot easier to have alien languages that don't directly correspond to a real world accent.
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DeimosRising posted:But they have an accent, and are being “mapped“ to an ethnicity in that way - they just all talk like upper middle class white Americans. the presupposition that this is the default is the problem Yeah I missed this blind spot in my thinking completely. Good call; Im properly chastised.
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Star Wars, outside the old EU at least, has never really been all that creative with the aliens in general. Like, I'd never expect to see something along the lines of the opening of Valerian where you've got a fish alien who walks around in a big tank of water with robot arms and legs attached to it. Star Wars historically has never gone that far with the designs compared to some other sci-fi series.
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That would have been expensive to film in 1977 without it looking like crap. I don't ask that the aliens in Star Wars be creative and thought provoking on the level of Niven or LeGuin, just that they be colourful and fun. As opposed to making everything "realistic" and "gritty" by making it drab. Give me a baby-blue elephant man playing the piano, not a wrinkly flat-faced guy in a robe.
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Basebf555 posted:Part of it is they don't want to use subtitles too much, but if they didn't have that restriction it would be a lot easier to have alien languages that don't directly correspond to a real world accent. Right, but they don't use subtitles in the Expanse. They just looked at real creole languages and made a new one that is a mix of English and others, and have the actors speak in a very specific inflection that is impossible to place, asking with new words that you get from context. They even have characters code switching so that they speak different amongst reach other than they do to earthers or martians. You could be really creative and come up with all sorts of ways to indicate alieness in speech without going straight for "this dude is Thai, that dude is dutch"
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The Little Death posted:Right, but they don't use subtitles in the Expanse. They just looked at real creole languages and made a new one that is a mix of English and others, and have the actors speak in a very specific inflection that is impossible to place, asking with new words that you get from context. They even have characters code switching so that they speak different amongst reach other than they do to earthers or martians. You could be really creative and come up with all sorts of ways to indicate alieness in speech without going straight for "this dude is Thai, that dude is dutch" I don't disagree but that's the more complex and difficult route. It's much simpler to just have a completely alien set of weird noises that have no resemblance to any real language, and just throw some subtitles under it. But they don't even wanna do that because they probably assume there's a lot of people that don't want to have to read them.
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Its not like Star Wars has famous precedent for unintelligible aliens who aren't subtitled so we can pick up context from the other characters or anything
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The most creative they got was with the TLJ casino aliens, although they were still drab colors wise. Anyway that was pretty terrible, so it's probably the usual 'come up with new things' / 'oh god stop coming up with new things' type situation
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Lol I just realized palps was a literal deus ex machina they put him on a loving crane. I hope the writers got a chuckle out of that before being fired.
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well why not posted:Chewbacca barely being a presence is yet another damning fact of the ST. He does next to nothing even by sidekick standards. IMO he should’ve been the one to face off against Kylo. He has way more of a complex relationship with Kylo than anyone. They’d be borderline family all of Ben’s life and then he murders Solo? In front of him? Then he just kinda hangs out and chills for two movies. Reminds me of that old doodle someone did shortly after TFA came out where Chewie has a bead on Kylo Ren, then remembers the time they spent together, then aims for a gutshot rather than a headshot
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euphronius posted:It definitely should have been two movies with the palp reveal being the cliffhanger into episode 9 episode 2. Oh well. Imho I'd rather watch one bad movie than two
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Vinylshadow posted:Reminds me of that old doodle someone did shortly after TFA came out where Chewie has a bead on Kylo Ren, then remembers the time they spent together, then aims for a gutshot rather than a headshot It’s so weird that they did nothing with Chewie’s potential relationship with Ben, or honestly basically anyone, like Luke finds out Han died offscreen and we don’t see them comfort each other. It makes the medal thing at the end of RoS even more grotesque because it’s like, you just went 3 movies using this character as an OT prop and then you “fix” him not getting a medal in New Hope (even tho he was a fleshed our character with relationships in that movie)
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So there's a Project Luminous reveal event scheduled for February 24th. https://twitter.com/Clayton_Sandell/status/1222324110690111489?s=20 Also we got another High Republic mention in the Star Wars #2 comic: 
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They were never realistically going to have chewie and kylo/ben have a moment but I would have loved chewie holding ben's redeemed, ruined body like a pieta because I think George would get a kick out of a character based on his malamute that sat in the passenger seat of his car turning into religious icongraphy 40 years later
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Why was it called the High Republic, implying a lost golden age, if it was rough frontier times? Also why was it rough frontier times six hundred years into the Galactic Republic's existence?
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Apparently it was the height of their expansion into unknown areas during a time of relative peace.
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2house2fly posted:Why was it called the High Republic, implying a lost golden age, if it was rough frontier times? Also why was it rough frontier times six hundred years into the Galactic Republic's existence? it's because everyone was blazed out of their minds on spice, that's why they had to ban it
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