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Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

I just finished Anarch, and while overall I really enjoyed it, I find myself wondering if Mkoll eventually retires to live of Catachan and becomes Sly Marbo's ancestor. This loving guy is unstoppable. I was onboard with everything until that last kill, and still would have been if it had been Brin to do it.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm actually more interested in what's going to happen to Lucky Mac Bonin. That poor guy was mkoll 2.0 and he went through off-page hell in Anarch

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
The entire Tanith regiment goes through yet another warp time slip and is given settlement rights to Catachan. Varl becomes Straken's granddaddy. Bragg is cloned and ends up siring Harker from beyond the grave.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Arent the ghosts like fairly far back in the time line but have been mary sue'd into the present or in statis or whatever by Tarzayn/that one pokemon collector necron?

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Waroduce posted:

Arent the ghosts like fairly far back in the time line but have been mary sue'd into the present or in statis or whatever by Tarzayn/that one pokemon collector necron?

The novels are set late 700s M41. So between 2-300 years prior to the "present". Abnett has mentioned in his novels the last of the ghosts were "long-dead" by 100s M42. The Trazyn stuff was pure fluff/fan service, and I don't think Abnett had any input in it. I doubt the disappearance of a bunch of real Tanith snipers would've gone unnoticed, and by the time of Warmaster, most of the old guard is dead, or out of service.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
There's nothing to have stopped him taking some of the other two-ish regiments worth that "died" with Tanith though.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Arquinsiel posted:

There's nothing to have stopped him taking some of the other two-ish regiments worth that "died" with Tanith though.

Good point! I'd love a random Tanith armored company showing up in some Trazyn fluff someday.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The Tanith never had an armoured company. The three regiments gaunt was sent to levy were all equipped as light infantry.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
It would even almost make sense. They're fighting Chaos, and then... they're fighting Chaos, but somewhere else. Guess it's Chaos stuff? gently caress it, pew-pew!

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

The Tanith never had an armoured company. The three regiments gaunt was sent to levy were all equipped as light infantry.

Ghostmaker has 3 regiments light infantry, with 1 regiment including small elements of light armor and artillery. They specifically call back to the fact that the Tanith heavy equipment, including tanks and troop carriers were left behind, and that at least some of the early battles had tank crews fighting as infantry.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Karneios posted:

If that's angron why does he have an axe instead of the black blade

I haven't finished Lost and the Damned yet so I don't know if it's already happened but it could be Ka'Bandha.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Guyver posted:

I haven't finished Lost and the Damned yet so I don't know if it's already happened but it could be Ka'Bandha.

It's Angron. He has an axe when he fights Perturabo in the Abnett short story even though he has gotten rid of gorechild and friend by then.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



I haven't read any of the HH novels after the first, but... how stable is Angron at this point anyways? Would he even notice that it wasn't his weapon, or could he just be grabbing the closest weapon before charging at the enemy?

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

Randalor posted:

but... how stable is Angron at this point anyways?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAno.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
The list of things less stable then a Khorne Daemon Prince is pretty small.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Just picked up Valdor: Birth of the Imperium, looking forward to cracking it.

Also I saw Lord of the Dark Millennium in person and drat that's a beefy book.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Randalor posted:

I haven't read any of the HH novels after the first, but... how stable is Angron at this point anyways? Would he even notice that it wasn't his weapon, or could he just be grabbing the closest weapon before charging at the enemy?

he was sorta stable in betrayer and than he got turned into a daemon prince. kharne used to be pretty stable but than his friend got murked and by the lost and damned he is almost gone. angron is just a monster who kills everything and has 24/7 temper tantrum.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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Karneios posted:

If that's angron why does he have an axe instead of the black blade
He probably didn't get the black blade until later.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Think the only person Angron wouldn't immediately butcher like an animal in his proximity is Lorgar.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


MariusLecter posted:

Think the only person Angron wouldn't immediately butcher like an animal in his proximity is Lorgar.

Maybe Kharne? I haven't read Lost and the Dammned, but even by the end of Betrayer, he still seems to have some fondness for him.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Dog_Meat posted:

Whelp, guess I've got another book to read then. Thanks thread

It's not out till March though.

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Maybe Kharne? I haven't read Lost and the Dammned, but even by the end of Betrayer, he still seems to have some fondness for him.

Lost and damned spoiler

As of lost and the damned he wants to kill kharne because he is becoming the blood gods favored mortal and ossicilates between jealousy and the want of a most valuable skull

Karneios
Nov 5, 2009

SardonicTyrant posted:

He probably didn't get the black blade until later.

Doesn't betrayer end with angron getting the black blade, I remember kharne telling lorgar that it's done during that end section at least

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Lorgar tells Kharn that he'll give Angron the sword when the time is right. Right before he gets into a fight with Sanguinous I'm guessing.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Galvanik posted:

Lorgar tells Kharn that he'll give Angron the sword when the time is right. Right before he gets into a fight with Sanguinous I'm guessing.

Wait, when does Angron fight Sanguinius? Isn't it the bloodthirster that Sangy fights at the gate?

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Dog_Meat posted:

Wait, when does Angron fight Sanguinius? Isn't it the bloodthirster that Sangy fights at the gate?

Ka'Bandha is its name as I recall. I was under the impression that most of the daemon primarchs went on a murderous rampage across Terra during the siege and pursued their own ends. If Angron was locked up in the bowels of the Night Lords flagship, I can see him being sufficiently and indiscriminately pissed to not give a poo poo about any kind of objective beyond killing everything and just carving his way across the planet.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013
True, although (minor Lost and Damned spoilers) his overwhelming drive is to get to the palace and confront his father. And even though he's gone full rage-slave mode, he's still standing at the gate with gunfire splashing off him bellowing to the Emperor that he's here for him

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Yeah I think in prior canon it's Fulgrim and his brood that are the totally unreliable ones who just land and immediately gently caress off to start indulging their blood lust without any regard for the Siege.

Basically as much as everyone in this is throwing poo poo at Angron for being unreliable and uncontrollable, it's Fulgrim who actually can't control himself enough to follow the mission.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

If the mission was anything other than Murder Dad then Angorn would probably end up getting distracted too.

I think I read in some wiki that Angorn calls for hawkboy to fight him but Sanguinius says "lol no" and goes to play with Horus.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Guyver posted:

If the mission was anything other than Murder Dad then Angorn would probably end up getting distracted too.

I think I read in some wiki that Angorn calls for hawkboy to fight him but Sanguinius says "lol no" and goes to play with Horus.

Wasn't that Corax in the dropsite massacre?

Corax sees Angron ploughing his way through marines towards him and is like "I could stay and fight, but he'll probably kick my rear end and my legion is going to need me, so... gently caress that!"

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

It's not like they couldn't use the same story beat twice.

Though that's just something I read on a wiki and might be changed (still in the middle of The Lost and the Damned) but Sanguinius fighting Ka'bandha and Extra Mad Angorn would explain Horus taking him out.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Guyver posted:

It's not like they couldn't use the same story beat twice.

Though that's just something I read on a wiki and might be changed (still in the middle of The Lost and the Damned) but Sanguinius fighting Ka'bandha and Extra Mad Angorn would explain Horus taking him out.

Which shows how utterly bad-rear end Sanguinius is even among the primarchs. Like in Fear to Tread where he basically loses his poo poo and murks a bloodthirster and a keeper of secrets pretty much at the same time

The fact that when he fights Horus he's not just fighting another primarch, but one of the (if not the) greatest primarchs AND he's hopped up on more chaos god koolaid than any other being in the galaxy (probably before or since) to the extent that he manages to cripple the Emperor himself - and he gives hm the fight of his life and arguably creates the means for the Emperor to eventually win. All after fighting for weeks, holding the infinity gate by himself, kicking the poo poo out of a bloodthirster again and generally being an avatar of death incarnate.

Angron is a bit of a pussy in comparrison, really...

Dog_Meat fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Feb 6, 2020

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I just finished the Forges Of Mars omnibus the other night and two things:

1: Have they come back to Telok at all since the series ended? Or is that still just kind of blowing in the wind?
2: The little epilogue story loving ruled, please tell me there are more cyberpunk 40k stories out there?

Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~
If you all haven't been reading the Flashman let's read, you're really missing out on the original Ciaphas Cain. Except Flashman, as has been noted before, is a tremendous piece of poo poo.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Olanphonia posted:

If you all haven't been reading the Flashman let's read, you're really missing out on the original Ciaphas Cain. Except Flashman, as has been noted before, is a tremendous piece of poo poo.

its great thread. i never took cain as flashman or even a black adder in levels of cowardice. its more he has that personality quirk where he can't admit he does all great brave. like that super toxic humility thing people have. imposters syndrom and such.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Inspector_666 posted:

I just finished the Forges Of Mars omnibus the other night and two things:

1: Have they come back to Telok at all since the series ended? Or is that still just kind of blowing in the wind?
2: The little epilogue story loving ruled, please tell me there are more cyberpunk 40k stories out there?

Right after the series ended, GW got new management who said 'Right. This whole 'five seconds to midnight' thing we've been doing with the story for two decades? Yeah we're advancing the story now' and they haven't looked back because it's really worked for them.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The settings stasis for forty years got everyone into the mindset that if the story moved forward it would move forward really fast and whichever faction took the first step would win outright. The nice thing about gathering Storm onwards is that they have taken their time and put things into perspective. The galaxy is loving huge. The cicatrix maledictum ripping reality in half is the worst thing that has happened in the last few thousand years. But it still takes a long rear end time to consolidate gains in the newly chaotic world. So you have a half dozen major crusades and high profile warzones to look at because conquering the galaxy takes a long time.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Dog_Meat posted:

Wasn't that Corax in the dropsite massacre?

Corax sees Angron ploughing his way through marines towards him and is like "I could stay and fight, but he'll probably kick my rear end and my legion is going to need me, so... gently caress that!"

Thought it was when the Raven Guard fleet, or whats left of it, is trying to escape detection and gtfo of the Istvaan system that Angron is broadcasting on all frequencys "1v1 ME CORAX, YOU COWARD!"

MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Feb 7, 2020

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Finished Watchers of the Throne last night and loved it to bits. Alyea and Valerian is such a great time with some amazing banter and chemistry despite barely interacting for a lot of the book.
Also one of the better starting points for 8th ed lore I feel. Much more interesting to read about the view on the ground and back on Terra than what Dark Imperium does. It also uses Guilliman really well too.
Can't wait to pick up the sequel when it comes out on paperback.

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Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011
Of all the post gathering storm audiobooks, which one has the best combat scenes?

I'm going on a road trip and I want some pure strain bolter porn with primaris marines.

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