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Tbf I am left handed when I write but in general it's a right handed world. Everything is designed around using your right hand.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 07:33 |
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Tulip posted:The Batman stuff felt pretty tacked on and non-essential. Thomas Wayne felt like this unholy Ed Koch-Michael Bloomberg-Jeff Bezos character, and he's very comprehensible as a representation of "financiers who got into politics as a means of hurting poor people," but the superhero elements didn't add a lot. Roman posted:- In the scene with Bruce standing over his dead parents, a Wolfen poster on the wall. Maybe a reference to when Arthur says "They just think we'll just sit there and take it like good little boys, and we won't werewolf and go wild."
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 07:36 |
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Another thing to get off my chest: One critique I keep seeing over and over is that Arthur, a mentally ill uneducated uncultured loner, was incoherent and had nothing profound to say on Murray's show. I would argue that him not delivering some eloquent "clever" Aaron Sorkin speech was a sign of good writing, as opposed to bad. I also liked that his attempt to look cool and clever by stealing Murray's "That's life" catchphrase was cut off by the Please Stand By screen.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 07:54 |
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The best bit is right after that when it implies that news stations are just straight up airing the footage of Murray getting shot.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 09:00 |
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Pirate Jet posted:The best bit is right after that when it implies that news stations are just straight up airing the footage of Murray getting shot. Big R. Budd Dwyer energy there.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 11:58 |
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Pirate Jet posted:The best bit is right after that when it implies that news stations are just straight up airing the footage of Murray getting shot. But bleeping out the naughty word
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 12:17 |
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Roman posted:But bleeping out the naughty word The best joke ever
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 12:29 |
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Roman posted:Another thing to get off my chest: One critique I keep seeing over and over is that Arthur, a mentally ill uneducated uncultured loner, was incoherent and had nothing profound to say on Murray's show. I would argue that him not delivering some eloquent "clever" Aaron Sorkin speech was a sign of good writing, as opposed to bad. My conviction that critics were confused by the movie because they outright refuse to believe that class war is real only grows stronger Roman posted:But bleeping out the naughty word lol
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 14:05 |
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The worst line in the movie was when Arthur said "you're just like the rest of them!". That's such a hacky line.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 23:18 |
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Yeah but Arthur's kind of a hack so it works. I'm still impressed that someone made a movie about one of the most popular comic supervillains ever, and didn't portray them as some super cool antihero but as a dangerous dork. And it not only worked but resonated with lots of people and made a billion dollars.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 23:39 |
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The lengths by which people will go to say they hated this movie, my goodness
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 23:56 |
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 00:06 |
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Donovan Trip posted:The lengths by which people will go to say they hated this movie, my goodness Can't believe some people didn't like a movie!
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 00:32 |
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Prince Myshkin posted:Can't believe some people didn't like a movie!
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 00:42 |
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Joaquin when he heard he got the nom.
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# ? Jan 16, 2020 22:45 |
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Has anyone thought that Arthur was never actually the real joker? Just a mental patient in a psych ward who hears about a guy dressed as a clown commiting crimes from the news and TV and just gloms onto the idea that he’s the joker? And it’s happening in all the other wards to the other patients,the real joker’s out there somewhere,a jack nicholson type or a heath ledger type,maybe even a caeser romero type,depending on which patient you ask and what mood they’re in. Like a mass hysteria for mental patients.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:35 |
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Has anyone thought that Arthur was never actually the real joker?
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:39 |
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I don't buy that interpretation just because if the ending is saying that none of what you watched actually happened, what was the loving point? Unreliable narration can be used to good effect, but shrugging off the entire plot without revealing any layers underneath isn't that.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:43 |
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Sinteres posted:I don't buy that interpretation just because if the ending is saying that none of what you watched actually happened, what was the loving point? Unreliable narration can be used to good effect, but shrugging off the entire plot isn't that. Everything did happen,it’s just arthur has put a joker filter over his memories.And all the poo poo that makes no sense is because he’s crazy. (Just my interpretation)
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:46 |
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Joker writing left handed makes sense I think the French word for left hand is Le Sinister ? Anyway left handed people were thought to be sinister and not of their right.minds to the point they would force left handed people to write right handed. Also as some occult connotations. It makes sense joker would be left handed
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:52 |
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There is an actual DC villain named Sinestro and he used to be one of the good guys. They explained his name by making him left-handed.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 23:59 |
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Has anyone thought that Arthur was never actually the real joker? Just a mental patient in a psych ward who hears about a guy dressed as a clown commiting crimes from the news and TV and just gloms onto the idea that he’s the joker? he's the jokah baby
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 00:50 |
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Seeing this movie tonight, what's it about?
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 02:29 |
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Roth posted:Seeing this movie tonight, what's it about? Jokes
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 02:51 |
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Roth posted:Seeing this movie tonight, what's it about? Air humping
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 02:51 |
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Roth posted:Seeing this movie tonight, what's it about? Stairs
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 04:05 |
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Sinteres posted:I don't buy that interpretation just because if the ending is saying that none of what you watched actually happened, what was the loving point? Unreliable narration can be used to good effect, but shrugging off the entire plot without revealing any layers underneath isn't that. It's pretty obvious which parts are Arthur daydreaming and which parts actually happened. It's also pretty obvious that Arthur isn't 'the joker' in any specific batman move canon but that's b/c it's pretty clear that 'the joker' isn't a singular person and also b/c it isn't seamless with any current batman canon.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 04:15 |
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Tulip posted:It's pretty obvious which parts are Arthur daydreaming and which parts actually happened. I wish the movie hadn't felt the need to nod to Batman continuity as much as it did, even if it wasn't tying itself to any particular version of the character. The alley scene felt out of place to me, and pointing to the inevitability of their rivalry in the future just highlights the weird age difference between them. If the movie's not canon, none of that poo poo matters, but I guess this makes selling it easier to people with a terminal case of comic book brain.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 18:02 |
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I hope he gives the same speech when he wins the Oscar. quote:"At the BAFTA Awards on Sunday night, Joaquin Phoenix used his acceptance speech for Best Actor to call out the industry's prominent diversity problem. Phoenix won the award for his performance as Arthur Fleck in Joker, about a man with mental illness mistreated by society, who spirals and slowly forms an alter ego, the Joker. While the film takes place in Gotham City, a key location in the DC Universe, Fleck is not a character found in the comics.
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# ? Feb 4, 2020 01:21 |
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I wonder how the nerds who thinks Joker is an anti-SJW movie react to this.
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# ? Feb 4, 2020 04:57 |
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MizPiz posted:French firefighters are officially the coolest municipal force in the western world
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 07:52 |
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Shout out Joaquin.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 05:50 |
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It took like 5 years for people to realize Ledger’s joker was just a 1-1 Tom Waits impression, I’m excited for 2026 discourse to be all excited about the kid from Modern Family playing Joker and everyone realizing Phoenix’s Performance is just “Andy Kaufman”
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 14:15 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It took like 5 years for people to realize Ledger’s joker was just a 1-1 Tom Waits impression, I’m excited for 2026 discourse to be all excited about the kid from Modern Family playing Joker and everyone realizing Phoenix’s Performance is just “Andy Kaufman” Thankyouverymuch.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 14:37 |
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There's like 4 kids in Modern Family now, you have to be more specific.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 15:54 |
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The MSJ posted:There's like 4 kids in Modern Family now, you have to be more specific. Whichever poor bastard had to go through puberty on national TV while pretending Sofía Vergara was his loving mom. No way that dude doesn’t turn out a little unhinged
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 16:13 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It took like 5 years for people to realize Ledger’s joker was just a 1-1 Tom Waits impression, I’m excited for 2026 discourse to be all excited about the kid from Modern Family playing Joker and everyone realizing Phoenix’s Performance is just “Andy Kaufman” He had plenty of practice cribbing from Kaufman after I'm Still Here.
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# ? Feb 11, 2020 03:18 |
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I like how much criticism Joker gets for taking inspiration from cool things. "It's just Taxi Driver / King of Comedy / Andy Kaufman... Etc" ...good? Those things are awesome.
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# ? Feb 11, 2020 08:08 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It took like 5 years for people to realize Ledger’s joker was just a 1-1 Tom Waits impression, I’m excited for 2026 discourse to be all excited about the kid from Modern Family playing Joker and everyone realizing Phoenix’s Performance is just “Andy Kaufman”
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# ? Feb 11, 2020 08:33 |
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Necrothatcher posted:I like how much criticism Joker gets for taking inspiration from cool things. "It's just Taxi Driver / King of Comedy / Andy Kaufman... Etc" They are, but in the case of the Scorcese movies the comparison is unfavorable to Joker. I mean falling short of peak Scorcese obviously isn't the end of the world, since almost everyone will, but having seen the other movies reduces the novelty of Joker for sure. As for Kaufman, I think Phoenix is good enough that pointing out any inspiration doesn't lessen what he did.
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