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Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Methanar posted:

What I don't understand is how there aren't destitute ruined people carbombing health insurance/student loan shark HQs. Yet there is a school shooting every day. There aren't even attempts.

They don't have the means. If you're that desparate you'll have sold anything you could convert into murder implements for food first.

e: Yeah, Good. OK.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
there was a death in Japan today - an 80yo woman with a separate medical condition, but no known link to Wuhan or contact with anybody known to be infected

for all that's going on in China, most of which is uncertain, this is another sign that this virus is covertly spreading through people and places we are unaware of. hopes of quarantine seem more and more delusional; as many are saying, all that can be done now is buy time to prepare

regarding whether the jump in cases yesterday included previously diagnosed cases or was just including new data for yesterday alone, it seems my confusion on that point is shared by others:

"It is unclear over which time period the number of cases in the new category were detected. In a press conference in Beijing Thursday afternoon, officials only took questions from state media, and no one asked about the data revisions." (from this Bloomberg news roundup.)

So we will have to wait until this day's numbers are released to tell - hopefully they will be much lower, but who knows.

Mozi fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Feb 13, 2020

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

The infected woman in London apparently just showed up to A&E unannounced. That hospital is now down a couple of staff, who have been quarantined. And she took an Uber to get there.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I'm supposed to fly to eastern europe come early march and I think I'd rather eat the loss

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

alphabettitouretti posted:

The infected woman in London apparently just showed up to A&E unannounced. That hospital is now down a couple of staff, who have been quarantined. And she took an Uber to get there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/13/london-coronavirus-patient-turned-up-hospital-uber-taxi

I'm changing my forecast to we're dooooomed.

Luckyellow
Sep 25, 2007

Pillbug
I've stocked up on masks and food and other supplies but I just realize that I'll need some entertainment while I'm stuck at home. I can't just simply spend a entire month just binging Netflix and posting on the forums. I'll grab a yoga mat so I can exercise at home but fo y'all have any other suggestions for people who's gonna be self-quarantining?

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

The hospital sent her home pending test results lmao. What the gently caress

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Luckyellow posted:

I've stocked up on masks and food and other supplies but I just realize that I'll need some entertainment while I'm stuck at home. I can't just simply spend a entire month just binging Netflix and posting on the forums. I'll grab a yoga mat so I can exercise at home but fo y'all have any other suggestions for people who's gonna be self-quarantining?

Go outside

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Bape Culture posted:

The hospital sent her home pending test results lmao. What the gently caress

Telling people to self isolate at home and ambulancing them there is the correct response because most will just have the flu/a cold.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Luckyellow posted:

I've stocked up on masks and food and other supplies but I just realize that I'll need some entertainment while I'm stuck at home. I can't just simply spend a entire month just binging Netflix and posting on the forums. I'll grab a yoga mat so I can exercise at home but fo y'all have any other suggestions for people who's gonna be self-quarantining?

Learn an instrument

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Saros posted:

Telling people to self isolate at home and ambulancing them there is the correct response because most will just have the flu/a cold.

Ah I thought she went back in the uber too!

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

That would be a bit much even for hellworld 2020.

I feel bad for the poor uber driver who is no doubt stuck at home and unable to work.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Saros posted:

That would be a bit much even for hellworld 2020.

I feel bad for the poor uber driver who is no doubt stuck at home and unable to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nM9p2luZWs

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
A friend sent me this & I've not seen it posted.
https://infographics.channelnewsasia.com/wuhan/gmap.html

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


14th case in the US today. Still coming from people in quarantine so no need to panic yet

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/EdwardLawrence/status/1227970167499563009?s=19

agreed, no need to panic lol

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


Which sources? I'm very skeptical of the administration.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Ah yes, let's believe FOX news.

quote:

Edward Lawrence @EdwardLawrence Correspondent @FOXBusiness / @FOXNews EMMY Award Winning Journalist. Space Force Recruit.
Seriously, who the gently caress would be stupid enough to believe anything they say.

Get at least something resembling a credible source.


E: Also, is this the same administration that is currently actively trying to suppress climate change science?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
It's because trumpublicans love making GBS threads on china in any way fashionable, even if the world burns for it.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Can the virus be delivered via aerosol? Just thinking how it can be weaponized.

Indy
Mar 30, 2005

Hey guys, what's up?

Shaocaholica posted:

Can the virus be delivered via aerosol? Just thinking how it can be weaponized.

It is already weaponized by retards like that Chinese/English lady a few posts up.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!




:lol: oh dear

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Somebody is going to write a book with a list of anecdotes about how the stupidity of humans has helped this spread

Beyond some point is not that illness are bad but that people is dumb and selfish

If this is not contained - we are going to need a tv serie like netflix chernobyl

Then theres something to say about globalisation ---
What some chinese guy eats in eat chine affects me
The political system that a chinese guy suffer affects me

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

I'm a bit aghast at how chill the Public health lady is about this. The infectious lady was likely in the rear of the Uber, using the door handles, seat belt and the like. Guess who else uses the door handles, seatbelt etc. All the following passengers!

Sten Freak
Sep 10, 2008

Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.
College Slice
They're under counting. Who knows what the margin of error is.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3050311/its-pneumonia-everybody-china-knows-about-many-deaths-will-never

quote:

Retired Wuhan factory worker Wei Junlan had always been in good health, but around two weeks after developing the first signs of a cough and fever, the 63-year-old was dead from what doctors suspect was the new coronavirus. But her death on January 21 will not show up in official statistics about the outbreak – her death certificate listed the cause only as “heavy pneumonia”. Her nephew Jerry Shang said that Wei had not been tested for the disease, but that the doctor said her symptoms – including a lung infection, fever and increasing weakness – closely matched those of Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.

By the end she was unable to walk, and the last the family saw of her was when she was being wheeled into the emergency room. The doctor told the family: “It’s the pneumonia that everybody around the country knows about.”

...

He gave the example of a woman whose father died at home because she did not have the strength to get him to her car and the ambulance was too busy to collect him.

“Such patients die at home, nothing can be done, and they cannot be counted in the official numbers,” he said.

...
China’s health authorities have admitted that the real number of Covid-19 cases is likely to be higher than official statistics show.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I will tell you why in the next few days the death and confirmed numbers will be stabilized a bit. They changed the province head and city head at the same time (announced today but likely both have been there working on handover for a few days), the reason to "clear the back stock", "take a one time write off" on all the new patients is that they could blame these numbers to the removed officials and don't pin it on the new guys. At lease one of the new guys is Xi's people.

Now the number may spike again in the future, but not for the next few days.

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

PIZZA.BAT posted:

14th case in the US today. Still coming from people in quarantine so no need to panic yet

I hate to be a downer but if the incubation period is actually up to 21 days it's already in every habitable continent outside quarantines.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Saros posted:

I'm a bit aghast at how chill the Public health lady is about this. The infectious lady was likely in the rear of the Uber, using the door handles, seat belt and the like. Guess who else uses the door handles, seatbelt etc. All the following passengers!

They aren't even checking on the Uber dude it seems :psyduck:

Just "hey it's not like she was licking the driver :effort: "

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Tei posted:

Somebody is going to write a book with a list of anecdotes about how the stupidity of humans has helped this spread

Beyond some point is not that illness are bad but that people is dumb and selfish

If this is not contained - we are going to need a tv serie like netflix chernobyl

Then theres something to say about globalisation ---
What some chinese guy eats in eat chine affects me
The political system that a chinese guy suffer affects me

That’s just Contagion tho

WorldsStongestNerd
Apr 28, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Stock up on food and any other supplies you might need.
Not because mad max is coming, but because this might very well cause a significant hiccup in the economy. Its possible stores may have a run on medication in a few months so make sure you have enough now. Prepare for your hours to be cut. Even if the virus is not that big of a deal some companies will have people stay at home if they have any cases. At this point even if the virus is no worse than the flu public fear is going to cause some disruption.

WorldsStongestNerd fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 13, 2020

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
My mom works with the Red Cross in San Diego every now and then. The other day she was conscripted into driving this huge Red Cross truck with supplies in it, things like baby food, diapers, soap, clothes, etc. They went to a store to make sure they had everything that was requested, then drove it to the Naval base in San Diego to be delivered to all the people there in quarantine for the coronavirus. Obviously there are children and babies there.

Luckily, she just dropped off the goods in a warehouse, she didn't actually give it to the potentially infected people which is what I thought she meant at first

Mithaldu posted:

#1 I already know the numbers. Wuhan is 7 mio people. It's about as big as Berlin. Berlin would struggle hard with 50k people suddenly sick.

#2 Ok, i can think of one reason to lie now: Maybe china would just plain drop a nuke on Wuhan if the city gets out of control. That would be good motivation. Which i'm now rooting for, because:

I mean, it's a given that the numbers are not correct. Are they incorrect to the tune of 50k? that's probably a bit much in my mind but I'm just some random idiot and China is quite populous over small areas

Luckyellow posted:

I've stocked up on masks and food and other supplies but I just realize that I'll need some entertainment while I'm stuck at home. I can't just simply spend a entire month just binging Netflix and posting on the forums. I'll grab a yoga mat so I can exercise at home but fo y'all have any other suggestions for people who's gonna be self-quarantining?

where do you live exactly?

Saros posted:



:lol: oh dear

wait, what?

they do realize that dozens upon dozens of people will be getting in and out of that car and exposed to that uber driver? Maybe the chances are against it but if they're wrong about him not being infected the virus could be all over the city in a week. That seems pretty risky to just determine that he isn't high risk. Also I don't see how being in a car with an infected person translates to low risk

WorldsStongestNerd
Apr 28, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Nurge posted:

I hate to be a downer but if the incubation period is actually up to 21 days it's already in every habitable continent outside quarantines.

you’re probably right but we won’t know for sure until unexplained cases start popping up here. we still have a while to go until we can declare ourselves safe- probably late february or mid-march to be totally sure

CPA Hell
Apr 15, 2007

I like to press the number six!

I’m getting bored with the Contagion phrase of this epidemic. Is there a way I can skip ahead to the I Think We’re Alone Now part?

CPA Hell fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Feb 13, 2020

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
Flying to London early March... mental note: don't use uber

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
You can't contain this stuff outside of something like a hospital. People go out and will get out for multiple reasons and there is nothing you can do to stop them beyond I guess shooting anyone outside? But if they go to a party or shopping before you can stop them there's no way to do anything beyond waiting for it to burn out on population to infect.

Chrs
Sep 21, 2015

I’m the stupid loving rear end in a top hat who gets an Uber when I suspect I have the coronavirus.

Sacro
Jul 21, 2008

I was somewhere around the middle of page 86 in the Cognitive Dissonance thread when the drugs began to take hold.

only only only only only only
Who the gently caress is screaming "GO OUTSIDE" at my house. Show yourself, coward. I will never stop self quarantining.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Chrs posted:

I’m the stupid loving rear end in a top hat who gets an Uber when I suspect I have the coronavirus.

You can be a government official literally in charge of containing the virus and still try to circumvent your own protocols to give your dad a birthday banquet.

I guess my point is people are loving stupid and we'll always be less than one minute to midnight. Forget the nukes, it's the Ralph of the class that'll do us in.

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Chrs
Sep 21, 2015

There should be criminal charges for that type of selfish negligence

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