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Verin's chat with Egwene in I think Towers of Midnight will probably always be my favorite moment in the whole series.
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ReWinter posted:Verin's chat with Egwene in I think Towers of Midnight will probably always be my favorite moment in the whole series. It really owns, just an incredible moment. She's one of my favourite characters.
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Mar 10, 2020 07:29
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"Because each time we live, we get to love again." The Last Battle, won. Everything going forward is just taking care of details.
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Mar 10, 2020 08:14
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ReWinter posted:Verin's chat with Egwene in I think Towers of Midnight will probably always be my favorite moment in the whole series. Probably, yeah. I still really like the Aiel meeting in Shadow Rising. Where Rand is all like: "Your ancestors were pacifists." And Couladin is all triumphant, Rand obviously has just thrown away all chances of being declared Car'a'carn, while the clan chiefs unhappily realize who's the fake. Torrannor fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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Mar 10, 2020 09:02
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I've been thinking about Mesaana. Egwene et al trying to figure out how she beat the Oath Rod, but it seems easy to me. No Forsaken would ever consider themselves a Darkfriend, or Black Ajah, so she could probably quite truly say so. A neat little bit of Aes Sedai twisting.
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Mar 10, 2020 09:37
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I'm still working my way through The Great Hunt, and I'm realizing this is a bad thread for me to be in until I'm done with the series! Whoops!
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Mar 10, 2020 13:22
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COOL CORN posted:I'm still working my way through The Great Hunt, and I'm realizing this is a bad thread for me to be in until I'm done with the series! Whoops! Yeah uh probably. At least the journey is worth it even if some things get spoiled! Source: I've read the series uh too many times to be sure of the count.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:39
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I’ve spoiled myself on a couple things. It’s not that big of a deal, least it can entice me to get to the good parts while I’m wallowing in the dreck. I’m also not the beholden to spoilers either so YMMV.
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Mar 10, 2020 14:27
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Invalid Validation posted:I’ve spoiled myself on a couple things. It’s not that big of a deal, least it can entice me to get to the good parts while I’m wallowing in the dreck. I’m also not the beholden to spoilers either so YMMV. Yeah that's kinda how I'm approaching it too. I don't care that much about spoilers, it's the journey that's fun 
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Mar 10, 2020 14:28
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COOL CORN posted:I'm still working my way through The Great Hunt, and I'm realizing this is a bad thread for me to be in until I'm done with the series! Whoops! Please post your thoughts here as you read, while not looking at any of our posts.
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Mar 10, 2020 15:03
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Vavrek posted:Please post your thoughts here as you read, while not looking at any of our posts. definitely post thoughts if you're a first timer!!
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Mar 10, 2020 15:11
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I've been thinking about Mesaana. Egwene et al trying to figure out how she beat the Oath Rod, but it seems easy to me. No Forsaken would ever consider themselves a Darkfriend, or Black Ajah, so she could probably quite truly say so. A neat little bit of Aes Sedai twisting. Semirhage is one of the all-time greats here because she showed up in loving Seanchan territory where they enslave channellers strong enough to cut even her off. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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Mar 10, 2020 15:16
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Semirhage is one of the all-time greats here because she showed up in loving Seanchan territory where they enslave channellers strong enough to cut even her off. Probably not all that crazy, really, when you can just totally mask the ability of any other channeler to sense your talent/weaves/active channeling. Having a completely isolated empire to work with and manipulate free of any other form of interference was definitely worth the small risk.
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Mar 10, 2020 17:27
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I loved the thing with the foxes and snakes, because they second they went through the first redstone doorway I immediately understood what was happening and where they had gone. Elaida's Continuous Mistake was also intensely enjoyable.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:02
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The Rhuidean sequence with Rand was some solid "oh. Oh. Oh. Oh" writing
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Mar 10, 2020 19:33
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Was anyone else here surprised to find out that Min's abilities are not related to the Aelfinn's? The way Jordan wrote it seemed like we were to make that connection, and I came to the same conclusions as this person, basically that they saw the same things, just that they were fluent in reading the symbols. But RJ shut the whole idea down.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:44
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ChickenWing posted:The Rhuidean sequence with Rand was some solid "oh. Oh. Oh. Oh" writing I kinda regret reading Shadow Rising in middle school because I think I was too young and stupid to really appreciate the significance of that section. It didn't help that my mom (who was also reading the series at the time but was a book or two ahead of me) had complained to me about that part, saying it was a bunch of confusing flashbacks from random unknown characters, so that tainted my opinion of it ahead of time. 
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Mar 10, 2020 19:47
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I've been reading the series for the first time after having most of it spoiled for me by overzealous friends and I have to admit having just finished Fires of Heaven that drat I liked every bit of Asmodean. His musings and his reactions to Rand's insanity was just such a fun run, I looked forward to him in every Rand chapter and I miss the bastard already.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:53
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I’ve said it before but I’d have liked to se Asmodean be best buds with Rand. He could be redeemed. As chosen go he wasn’t that bad.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:00
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TGG posted:I've been reading the series for the first time after having most of it spoiled for me by overzealous friends and I have to admit having just finished Fires of Heaven that drat I liked every bit of Asmodean. His musings and his reactions to Rand's insanity was just such a fun run, I looked forward to him in every Rand chapter and I miss the bastard already. Invalid Validation posted:I’ve said it before but I’d have liked to se Asmodean be best buds with Rand. He could be redeemed. As chosen go he wasn’t that bad. Big same.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:09
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It is worth noting he mutilated musicians better than him just because. The man was a petty tyrant. That being said I did like Isendre being like "all he wants to do is play music and gently caress"
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Mar 10, 2020 20:15
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It is worth noting he mutilated musicians better than him just because. The man was a petty tyrant. Make love, you mean...
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Mar 10, 2020 20:16
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I must have a different copy of the book
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Mar 10, 2020 20:20
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Wait holy poo poo Asmodean is every idiot IM GONNA BE A SUPERSTAR lovely guitarist mooching off their rich friend ever, and taken to its logical conclusion of being the best by getting rid of his competition, even down to the banging the girl he isn't really interested in but knows he will never do better
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Mar 10, 2020 20:27
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wait holy poo poo Asmodean is great.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:31
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Was any Darkfriend ever redeemed in the entire series? I seem to recall them all being weirdly committed in a way that struck me as kind of unrealistic.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:32
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Vavrek posted:Asmodean is great. Yeah after realizing that, I'm sold.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:32
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Lets not forget all the innocent people Rand has slaughtered intentionally and unintentionally. Asmodean probably as a smaller body count.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:32
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Colonel Cool posted:Was any Darkfriend ever redeemed in the entire series? I seem to recall them all being weirdly committed in a way that struck me as kind of unrealistic. There was Ingtar of course. And a couple others. It was gone into a bit more in The World Of, but since the penalty for darkfriend-ism was usually death, and other darkfriends would shank you anyway, once you were in you were in. You might have stumbled across them by accident and it's either join or die, basically.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:35
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Colonel Cool posted:Was any Darkfriend ever redeemed in the entire series? I seem to recall them all being weirdly committed in a way that struck me as kind of unrealistic. Ingtar and Verin come to mind.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:36
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Colonel Cool posted:Was any Darkfriend ever redeemed in the entire series? I seem to recall them all being weirdly committed in a way that struck me as kind of unrealistic. At least two. Verin (who joined for knowledge, but was fully committed) and Ingtar (who joined out of despair). Both defied the Shadow in the end, and scored victories for the Light.
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Mar 10, 2020 20:38
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Technically we know of a third: Tomas, Verin's warder
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Mar 10, 2020 21:37
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Gnoman posted:At least two. Verin was looking into the Black Ajah and forced to join them when she was caught doing so, afaik, and she was never fully committed to the cause--though she had to obey the Black Ajah's Three Oaths. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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Mar 10, 2020 21:47
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Verin was looking into the Black Ajah and forced to join them when she was caught doing so, afaik, and she was never fully committed to the cause. She was quite open about being fully involved in their schemes, committing the same sorts of atrocities, and bound by the same oaths. She was hardly less committed than many others we've heard mention of there's mention of people who swore the oaths as a joke only to find themselves fully sworn to the Shadow.
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Mar 10, 2020 21:51
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Verin was looking into the Black Ajah and forced to join them when she was caught doing so, afaik, and she was never fully committed to the cause--though she had to obey the Black Ajah's Three Oaths. No, definitely not.
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Mar 10, 2020 21:51
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It is worth noting he mutilated musicians better than him just because. The man was a petty tyrant. Every single character in Randland is a petty tyrant at some point though, so IDK if that's much of an indictment of Asmo. RJ simply didn't believe in humanity being good consistently, because that wouldn't be human. Most characters try hard for whatever vision they have in their head of good and still fail. Even Sanderson's ending caught on to this - the world without the Dark One is a "win" for the dark.
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Mar 10, 2020 21:52
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Um excuse me what kind of tyrant could poor Bela be, exactly?
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Mar 10, 2020 22:32
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Mad Hamish posted:Um excuse me what kind of tyrant could poor Bela be, exactly? Bela was a Darkfriend.
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Mar 10, 2020 23:20
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Imagine a hoof stomping on a leaf, forever
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I'm honestly surprised that there was never some kind of anti-Darkfriend witch-hunt that happened.
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