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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

GORDON posted:

I have no idea what the law or order would look like that would invalidate the signed contracts that are every mortgage in the country.

yes, it would. but the thing is millions of people have essentially just lost their jobs, even if they haven't technically been "fired" this is a sudden and enormous loss of income at many levels. i cant remember any time in my life or in recent history when something as massive as every single bar and restaurant in a state closing and every single event being cancelled whether it's entertainment or sports or religion. the first few days after 9/11 for example are nothing compared to what's about to happen, this is most likely going to result in a lot of societal transformation from things like how we consume food to how law and order is handled, in a wide variety of contexts.

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poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



I have a family connection to a fancy person on the board of a prestigious NYC research hospital, and the word from him tonight is for everyone to get the gently caress out of NYC because it's already bad at the hospitals and there will be riots this week as paychecks start to bounce

Meant to post this here

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

:lol: stonks set to hit the limit break as the market collapses again tomorrow morning.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Earwicker posted:

yes, it would. but the thing is millions of people have essentially just lost their jobs. i cant remember any time in my life or in recent history when something as massive as every single bar and restaurant in a state closing and every single event being cancelled whether it's entertainment or sports or religion. the first few days after 9/11 for example are nothing compared to what's about to happen, this is most likely going to result in a lot of societal transformation from things like how we consume food to how law and order is handled, in a wide variety of contexts.

This could be what kickstarts the guaranteed minimum income system

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

GORDON posted:

I have no idea what the law or order would look like that would invalidate the signed contracts that are every mortgage in the country.

Capitalism may die. Do you want to give it a 5% chance to survive? Y/N?

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

poverty goat posted:

I have a family connection to a fancy person on the board of a prestigious NYC research hospital, and the word from him tonight is for everyone to get the gently caress out of NYC because it's already bad at the hospitals and there will be riots this week as paychecks start to bounce

Meant to post this here

the NYC situation seems to be scary as gently caress, new yorkers are insane and will never follow orders at the best of times

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

RIP the school year

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
One of our higher-ups at work solicited feedback on health policies today. I responded and appear to have successfully made the case that our computer-touchers should just work from home, while our other employees who do mixed computer/hands-on work can only come in for hands-on stuff. :buddy:

shovelbum posted:

the NYC situation seems to be scary as gently caress, new yorkers are insane and will never follow orders at the best of times
Realtalk the wife has a mid-20s cousin living in NYC; do we really need to tell her to GTFO while she can? She's working from home anyway and her tiny apartment has gotta be a lovely place to do that from. She can go back to her parents' place no problem.

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
Surely one of those sicency youtubers has made a "build you own ventilator" video by now right? How hard can it be?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

my brother lives in brooklyn but i havent encouraged him to get out because the only place he could go really would be my elderly parents house in massachusetts, and would have to go through a place like penn station in order to get there which seems like that would put them at risk more than him staying there would put him at risk. plus he lives out in bay ridge which is probably a bit calmer than the rest of the city

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Wifi Toilet posted:

Surely one of those sicency youtubers has made a "build you own ventilator" video by now right? How hard can it be?

I know you're joking but everyone talking breathlessly no pun intended about an open source ventilator is playing right into the delusion that this is a nuclear war or something. We might not be able to turn a tractor factory into a bomber factory like in WW2 but our normal industrial base should be able to easily scale up making a basic machine like that, we just don't have the mechanisms in place to take poo poo over, take over intellectual property, and force everyone to build pandemic poo poo all day

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Earwicker posted:

my brother lives in brooklyn but i havent encouraged him to get out because the only place he could go really would be my elderly parents house in massachusetts, and would have to go through a place like penn station in order to get there which seems like that would put them at risk more than him staying there would put him at risk. plus he lives out in bay ridge which is probably a bit calmer than the rest of the city

I live in Brooklyn and everything is pretty calm. My local grocery store even has toilet paper! I live a block from a public school, so NYC closing all schools will make the neighborhood pretty quiet. I'd suggest from him just to stock up and stay home. No need to travel if he doesn't have to.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Earwicker posted:

my brother lives in brooklyn but i havent encouraged him to get out because the only place he could go really would be my elderly parents house in massachusetts, and would have to go through a place like penn station in order to get there which seems like that would put them at risk more than him staying there would put him at risk. plus he lives out in bay ridge which is probably a bit calmer than the rest of the city

Yeah, the comment was about hospitals not being able to accommodate cases. If he's under 60 and in relatively decent health, I would personally isolate rather than take a train to see elderly.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Wifi Toilet posted:

Surely one of those sicency youtubers has made a "build you own ventilator" video by now right? How hard can it be?

I saw one on Instructibles but didn't click through as I value my sanity.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Blistex posted:

The province of Alberta just announced that all schools and daycares are to be shut down.

A bunch of my friends who are parents are freaking out because they don't know what to do with their kids while they're still going to work. Facebook has been almost nothing but panic posting today.

naem
May 29, 2011

Earwicker posted:

my brother lives in brooklyn but i havent encouraged him to get out because the only place he could go really would be my elderly parents house in massachusetts, and would have to go through a place like penn station in order to get there which seems like that would put them at risk more than him staying there would put him at risk. plus he lives out in bay ridge which is probably a bit calmer than the rest of the city

I had an apt in bay ridge lol

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


a local shop had a guy come in trying to shake hands with and hug the person working the register. he said he just wanted a photo. i'm trying to get the video.


pandemic.

Epsilon Moonshade
Nov 22, 2016

Not an excellent host.

I got unintentionally hosed by this whole panic-buying thing.

- Moved away from Seattle on the 21st of February (just before the announcement of COVID-19 deaths.)
-- I may have already had coronavirus? I actually flew back from apartment hunting in the Chicago area on the 18th of January, and got seriously sick a couple of days later. I assumed it was the flu, but I didn't have the barfiness that usually goes along with it. First cases in Seattle were reported on the 15th, so maybe I caught it at the airport.
- I actually stopped buying food for a while so I could go through my existing stock and wouldn't have to transport it halfway across the country. I was seriously broke until two days ago (unexpected expenses associated with the move, gently caress you you goddamn expensive moving company,) so only had enough for really basic food items.
- Paid on Friday, went to store, OH LOOK PANIC BUYING

I visited three stores in the area. Toilet paper was out, rice was out, flour was out, yeast was out, bread was out, eggs were almost out (although they had the liquid eggs - which work well on my griddle anyway.) Normally I'd have plenty of this stuff sitting around, but again - I was trying to avoid transporting extra items that I could just buy on the other end.

I was able to pick up a 50-pound bag of rice at a nearby Asian grocery store, which isn't all that bad since I like rice. Yay for racist assholes, I guess? I'm going to try to find a larger Asian grocery somewhere, to see if they also have stock of other essentials (like TP - I have a six-pack and I live alone so I'm not as bad off as some, but I do prefer to buy two of the 24-packs and buy once I break open the next pack.)

It's actually a little interesting, because I'm realizing that my food preferences tend towards the processed and shelf-stable - very prepper-like. I currently have rice, SPAM, beans, and pasta in my pantry - because I like them. But other than the beans (because I spent my last :20bux: on them a week and a half ago,) everything else is stuff that came with me that I fortunately didn't eat.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/1239364877191241728?s=21

Nice.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Nice.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

:nice:

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


:69snypa:

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




LA should stop all testing until 4/20.

B_sketchy
May 31, 2019

cda posted:

RIP the school year

The guidance specifically says it doesn't apply to schools.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Zugzwang posted:

One of our higher-ups at work solicited feedback on health policies today. I responded and appear to have successfully made the case that our computer-touchers should just work from home, while our other employees who do mixed computer/hands-on work can only come in for hands-on stuff. :buddy:
Realtalk the wife has a mid-20s cousin living in NYC; do we really need to tell her to GTFO while she can? She's working from home anyway and her tiny apartment has gotta be a lovely place to do that from. She can go back to her parents' place no problem.

As a mixed computer toucher/hands-on worker I gently suggested this last week and I'm going to do it again tomorrow.

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat

B_sketchy posted:

The guidance specifically says it doesn't apply to schools.

Too bad for the teachers over 60 I guess!

B_sketchy
May 31, 2019

Google Butt posted:

As a mixed computer toucher/hands-on worker I gently suggested this last week and I'm going to do it again tomorrow.

My job did this exactly. People are just going in to pick up the mail and poo poo.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Picnic Princess posted:

A bunch of my friends who are parents are freaking out because they don't know what to do with their kids while they're still going to work. Facebook has been almost nothing but panic posting today.

My wife and I are set since I'm a teacher and she works in a daycare, so we can take care of our son, but there are a lot of turbo-hosed people who have no idea what to do. I think babysitters are going to be making bank for a while. The Government was talking about shutting down for the rest of the school year, which would be horrendous since they would essentially be condemning a lot of families to becoming single-family earners, and single parents are hyper-turbo-hosed if they can't find someone to care for their kids. I think they're going to have to enact some manner of EI for families who have to stay home.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
Make the older kid watch the littler kids and tell them not to call you unless someone stops breathing.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

GolfHole posted:

In Canada the most popular drug store had its monthly "seniors discount day" last thursday.
Most seniors do not leave their house except for doctors appointments, and to go to the discount day.

Get ready for those numbers to fuckin spikeeeeeeeeeeeee

It's not monthly...it's weekly.

...yeah. This is a source of ongoing concern for my household.

B_sketchy
May 31, 2019

What if we give the aliens a cold?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

gently caress gently caress jesus gently caress jesus gently caress christ gently caress jesus christ

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION

Pick posted:

gently caress gently caress jesus gently caress jesus gently caress christ gently caress jesus christ

Pfft that's just the worst case scenario. It could end up a lil better. Fingers crossed.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Blaise330 posted:

Make the older kid watch the littler kids and tell them not to call you unless someone stops breathing.
My go-to was always "Did anybody's arm fall off?"

I am regretting not following this thread's advice and getting a bidet. Today I got what was available, a "Muslim shower", which is a hand-held shower that attaches to the in line for the toilet.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Blaise330 posted:

Pfft that's just the worst case scenario. It could end up a lil better. Fingers crossed.

Fuckin' lmao look at this stupid rear end and his "could end up a lil better" nonsense.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Epsilon Moonshade posted:


-- I may have already had coronavirus? I actually flew back from apartment hunting in the Chicago area on the 18th of January, and got seriously sick a couple of days later. I assumed it was the flu, but I didn't have the barfiness that usually goes along with it. First cases in Seattle were reported on the 15th, so maybe I caught it at the airport..

The flu doesn’t cause GI symptoms in general (though it can give children the shits on rare occasions).

naem posted:

I had an apt in bay ridge lol

Same, this is going to be a nightmare down there. So many olds. It’s like 25 percent 65+

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

mycomancy posted:

Fuckin' lmao look at this stupid rear end and his "could end up a lil better" nonsense.

Right? Best case scenario is still nightmarish.

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION
To some people the worst nightmare already came true. They gotta get drunk and cook food at home.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1239349835570044928

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Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION

Trying to get people not to endanger themselves and (much more importantly) others feels like one of those games where you get game over if the npc you're escorting dies, and they keep throwing grenades at their own ankle and not taking cover when enemies appear.

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