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Oh jesus, all this time when you guys were talking about numbered books I thought the one after Winter's Heart was Knife of Dreams and I kept thinking "these guys are weird, knife of dreams is way less of a slog than winter's heart, surely that's not the one to skip" I think I deleted Crossroads from my brain. Christ that book was bad. Good luck dude!
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What number was the one with the mat/tuon bit where he meets back up with the army? The mat bits of those books were good
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 02:01 |
awesmoe posted:All the mat bits are good Fixed it for you.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 03:36 |
awesmoe posted:What number was the one with the mat/tuon bit where he meets back up with the army? The mat bits of those books were good That's Book 11, Knife of Dreams, the last of the Jordan books. I would argue that everything but the Elayne and Faile bits of that bit were good, even the Perrin bits. Unfortunately, there's a lot of Elayne.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 12:36 |
Is there a reason he liked Elayne so much?
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 22:43 |
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:That's Book 11, Knife of Dreams, the last of the Jordan books. If you remove the Elayne/Perrin/Faile bits, I'm pretty sure the book is like 70% shorter.
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Invalid Validation posted:Is there a reason he liked Elayne so much? It suddenly occurs to me that she's everything Harriet/Moghedian wasn't. edit: Like, I don't think that was it. The thought just happened to spring into my head. Vavrek fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Vavrek posted:It suddenly occurs to me that she's everything Harriet/Moghedian wasn't. Jordan commented that all of the female characters were influenced by his wife. So elayne and moghedian are Harriet arguing with herself if she should be bold or cautious.
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# ? Mar 20, 2020 23:49 |
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Still my favorite interview answerquote:
https://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=204
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:01 |
...okay yeah it's mine too, now, holy crap.
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:04 |
Perfect
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:09 |
The impression I got from the Elayne chapters was that Jordan was trying very hard to have an excuse for Andor falling apart, because leaving it intact would screw up the core idea of forging a broken land together. The initial breaking of the kingdom worked for that, but an orderly succession after the Dragon solved that problem would heal things too well and too soon. So he had to have a succession crisis, and handled it poorly.
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:18 |
Gnoman posted:The impression I got from the Elayne chapters was that Jordan was trying very hard to have an excuse for Andor falling apart, because leaving it intact would screw up the core idea of forging a broken land together. The initial breaking of the kingdom worked for that, but an orderly succession after the Dragon solved that problem would heal things too well and too soon. You mean he had to have a succession crisis, and for it to have been handled poorly?
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:20 |
silvergoose posted:You mean he had to have a succession crisis, and for it to have been handled poorly? No, I mean that he handled the succession crisis poorly. The core concepts were sound, but he didn't use them well.
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:21 |
The Glumslinger posted:Still my favorite interview answer Big sub energy.
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 00:25 |
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Anias posted:Jordan commented that all of the female characters were influenced by his wife. So elayne and moghedian are Harriet arguing with herself if she should be bold or cautious. Theoryland, a good site posted:Dragonmount From the same interview: quote:Dragonmount
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 04:03 |
Vavrek posted:Yeah, that's what he said, but I'd heard Harriet always claimed Moghedien was the closest, or had the most aspects of her, something like that. Actually digging for a quote, however, led me to this interview:
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# ? Mar 21, 2020 04:36 |
Show runners with cabin (or real) fever so now they're talking about how they're doing the show. https://www.wotseries.com/2020/03/22/show-runner-rafe-judkins-does-an-ama-on-instagram/
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 20:54 |
drat. So excited.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:14 |
silvergoose posted:drat. So excited. To be fair he might be delirious
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:17 |
VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Show runners with cabin (or real) fever so now they're talking about how they're doing the show. Awww, I was really excited about Lucy Lawless until he said that was for another show I really want her on the show now. She'd be a perfect Aes Sedai since she doesn't age irl
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:30 |
Eh! Frank posted:Awww, I was really excited about Lucy Lawless until he said that was for another show I really want her on the show now. She'd be a perfect Aes Sedai since she doesn't age irl Moghedien, get her out of character.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:15 |
Well she did play a demon in Ash vs Evil Dead. So definitely some kind of Black Ajah.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:20 |
Would have to be a main character since she steals every show she’s in.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:38 |
Eh! Frank posted:Awww, I was really excited about Lucy Lawless until he said that was for another show I really want her on the show now. She'd be a perfect Aes Sedai since she doesn't age irl Myrelle or Moghedian are my choices.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:38 |
Oooo, she would make a great Myrelle
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 23:00 |
They do need to play up the Forsaken a bit though--in the books you get more views of them as bumbling squabbling malcontent incompetents, but to normal people they're still terrifying as gently caress. The scenes of like, the Black Ajah or Darkfriends groveling in front of some of them aside, Morgase's arc kicking off in book 5 is loving like, unreal. I'd like to see more of that, though not, that, specifically.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 23:30 |
Yeah some entirely show canon pov from the forsaken being competent in securing whatever goals they choose seems good. In particular ishamael has a good day clips from the time when he was loose could be amazing.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 23:49 |
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:They do need to play up the Forsaken a bit though--in the books you get more views of them as bumbling squabbling malcontent incompetents, but to normal people they're still terrifying as gently caress. The scenes of like, the Black Ajah or Darkfriends groveling in front of some of them aside, Morgase's arc kicking off in book 5 is loving like, unreal. Yeah, there first 3 books basically introduce multiple foresaken like 10 pages before they get murdered by Rand
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 23:52 |
Rand is like a murder elemental He seriously has no idea what he's doing
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:00 |
Also props to the one guy who managed to fish out that Geofram Bornhald is in S1.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:26 |
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dudes answers on IG were heartening. maybe this wont suck, if we ever see the dang thing with all this Emergency. should we establish a spoiler policy for this thread, at least a warning in the title if nothing else? The TV show will be bringing more and more newbs in
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:34 |
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it'd probably be good to put notable spoilers under tags for sure. maybe some minor details like character names and all that wouldn't need to be covered up.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:38 |
VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Also props to the one guy who managed to fish out that Geofram Bornhald is in S1. I mean he's kind of essential to Perrin's entire book 1 story?
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 02:54 |
silvergoose posted:I mean he's kind of essential to Perrin's entire book 1 story? There was some speculation that Eamon Valda being announced so early and Geofram hadn't that the roles had been combined. But Bornhalds and Perrins arc really goes all the way through ToM, so Though the actor for Geofram really would be one and done for Season 1, of course
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 03:03 |
Surprise! It's actually Ramsay and Roose Bolton!
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 03:18 |
Sean Bean is probably available, just saying
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 03:33 |
I thought he was Yamcha in the next live-action Dragon Ball
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 03:50 |
Guy also teased the first appearance of Aiel in the series being surprising or shocking. What are our options here
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:57 |
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My main guess is that Egwene will get one or more Dreams early on, letting us see or possibly even hear from one of the Wise Ones. Also possible is Aviendha, but the only real way I can see that working is a side story with her (like The Expanse show did for Avasarala during the events of the first book) so I feel like that's less likely than something they can work into the early story of the main cast.
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