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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Guy also teased the first appearance of Aiel in the series being surprising or shocking. Spoilers for Eye of the World, The Dragon Reborn, and New Spring: Flashback to Tam fighting in the Aiel War....or maybe even Rand's birth on Dragonmount. Actually, you could do a pretty cool thing with seeing Lews raise Dragonmount and die, then angle up to look at Dragonmount cooling off, then pan back down to see the battle, follow Tam through a skirmish, then see him finding Tigraine giving birth, maybe even cutting in Gitara having her last viewing (with young Moiraine and Siuan watching). Could be as early as the second scene of the show, really.
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IIRC, the series is still supposed to start off Moirane-centric. That gives a perfect opportunity for her and Lan to run into a couple of scouts that were never mentioned in the book.
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Gnoman posted:IIRC, the series is still supposed to start off Moirane-centric. That gives a perfect opportunity for her and Lan to run into a couple of scouts that were never mentioned in the book. That's what I assumed from Rosamund Pike being the one big name from the show. But that's fine, she's important as hell.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:19
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She was incredible in gone girl. Is there any other film she shines in?
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Also, GATHERING STORM Nynaeve Delves Rand after the fact and finds that the madness is still there. Which means, unless I miss my mark, that he crazies himself out of being crazy
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Also, GATHERING STORM She also sees something coating the madness and protecting him from it, which is never explained. My favorite part of that scene (unless there's two where she tries to heal him) is when she apologizes for not being able to cure it. Another POV character is there, and freaks because Nyneave can heal madness in the first place.
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Gnoman posted:She also sees something coating the madness and protecting him from it, which is never explained. My favorite part of that scene (unless there's two where she tries to heal him) is when she apologizes for not being able to cure it. Another POV character is there, and freaks because Nyneave can heal madness in the first place. The Dragon is referred to as the Light's Champion so although it's never stated, I figured it was the good stuff from the Creator
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Gold threads: I think the gold stuff protecting Rand from his madness was created by him, semi intentionally after he decided against killing himself, while he was on Dragonmount. Destroying the Choedan Kal in the process.
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Alright, so I've started on the audiobooks. For some strange reason, I've been feeling depressed about the world and listening to podcasts talking about current events doesn't help. Current thing I appreciate: Narrator is better at saying Egwene's name than I am. (I always end up saying Eg-wean, not Eg-whain, and putting too much emphasis on 'eg' instead of eh-Gwhain.) Thing that's very mildly irksome, as someone who's read The Eye of the World multiple times but never listened to it: So Randall Thor's going to Edmond's Field ... Can't wait for Mat to get good again. Only got what, three straight days worth of listening before that happens, right? (Maybe two and a half?)
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Vavrek posted:Alright, so I've started on the audiobooks. For some strange reason, I've been feeling depressed about the world and listening to podcasts talking about current events doesn't help. When I started listening I thought his name was Randall Thor and I was like man, what a dumb rear end name, no wonder they just call him Rand. The most cringing thing about the early books are the Illioner accents and their pronouncements of the names of the Forsaken and cities. They end up getting it down by the third book or so.
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The most cringy thing is how they can't decide how to pronounce Moghedien.
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Mar 26, 2020 00:21
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Moh-geh-deen is the worst one.
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Good ol Moggie Dean I've never listened, I truly hope that's not one
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the forgotten forsaken, sister to mog'a'deen, only known as paul'a'deen
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bell jar posted:When I started listening I thought his name was Randall Thor and I was like man, what a dumb rear end name, no wonder they just call him Rand. The most cringing thing about the early books are the Illioner accents and their pronouncements of the names of the Forsaken and cities. They end up getting it down by the third book or so. I like that between Flagg and Paul, the ophthalmologist from Kentucky is the one with the less lame name. What's getting me is, with all the news of this latest false dragon, how people keep saying Ghiladan, emphasis on the gila monster. It's Ghealdan. GELL-DAN. edit: Good performance on "HOW MANY DIED FOR LAMAN'S SIN?!" I appreciate a good job saying Cairhien. (This is one of my favorite scenes.) Vavrek fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Mar 26, 2020 |
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I know all my name pronunciations in my head are wrong but I like them better.
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Vavrek posted:I like that between Flagg and Paul, the ophthalmologist from Kentucky is the one with the less lame name. Yeah the fever is really well read. Yes, Kari, Rand is a good name...
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silvergoose posted:Yeah the fever is really well read. Yes, Kari, Rand is a good name... One of my favorite scenes in The Eye of the World. First we learn that Tam isn't Rand's biological father, setting up the reveal of his birth on Dragonmount. But it also gives a really early introduction to the Aiel, and it makes much more sense (and is more awesome) on a reread. Also it basically spells out that the Aiel have Avendesora: quote:Avendesora. It's said to make no seed, but they brought a cutting to Caerhien, a sapling. A royal gift of wonder for the king. Rand to Loial when they meet in Caemlyn: quote:Rand: "The Great Trees. Are they like Avendesora?" Rand and the Green Man: quote:Suddenly, the Green Man spoke to Rand. "Strange clothes you wear, Child of the Dragon."
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Yeah it's wild how early some of that stuff gets planted. in EotW Elyas Machera tells Perrin that some Aiel boys go north into the Blight alone to try to kill the Dark One, a thread that won't be touched on again for three more books and won't get paid off until Book 13.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Yeah it's wild how early some of that stuff gets planted. 
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You really get a sense for how the conversations must've gone in doing the editing for the first book. "Well, you could cut this, and this, they're just fluff that's not connected." "... no. Trust me, they're not fluff, they'll have payoff later." "When?" "Book four?" Five to fourteen books later, payoff comes and it's amazing.
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Vavrek posted:You really get a sense for how the conversations must've gone in doing the editing for the first book. I've been listening to The Good Place podcast and apparently Mike Schur did the same thing, a bunch of his editors and episode directors (not to mention most of the main cast) didn't know certain key details. So there were conversations like "we have to cut two more minutes, how about this conversation" "no that's... that's really important. Can't, uh, tell you why."
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Vavrek posted:There's a Good Place podcast?! "This is the Good Place podcast. I'm the host, Marc Evan Jackson. I play Shawn." Yes. Yes there is. I'm listening to the whole archives, and it basically feels like an entire extra season of the show, highly recommend. Guests include directors, creator, main cast, but also visual fx, composer, set, etc.
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silvergoose posted:"This is the Good Place podcast. I'm the host, Marc Evan Jackson. I play Shawn." Neednoggle (I know I spelled it wrong) is the best though.
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seaborgium posted:Neednoggle (I know I spelled it wrong) is the best though. Yes that's the vfx I mentioned. 
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bell jar posted:The most cringing thing about the early books are the Illioner accents Bayle Domon is always described as talking so fast that Rand has trouble understanding him. The narrator reads his lines slower than the pace he normally keeps for narration. (Also, earlier, it seemed like he was rushing through lines, as though he was thinking "god this book is so long, I need to get this done on time.") Also, he just sounds like a pirate.
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Vavrek posted:Bayle Domon is always described as talking so fast that Rand has trouble understanding him. Making Illian all pirate-y is probably not the worst idea, mateys https://imgur.com/OvpcLnC
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I mean he’s a smuggler, pirate adjacent is pretty alright.
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Torrannor posted:One of my favorite scenes in The Eye of the World. First we learn that Tam isn't Rand's biological father, setting up the reveal of his birth on Dragonmount. But it also gives a really early introduction to the Aiel, and it makes much more sense (and is more awesome) on a reread. Just started a reread and all this stuff is so satisfying
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DarkHorse posted:Just started a reread and all this stuff is so satisfying For all the poo poo WoT gets there are some things it does amazingly right
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Honestly if the actor they pick for Bayle just does his level best to channel Geoffrey Rush in PotC it'll be pretty good.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Honestly if the actor they pick for Bayle FTFY
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Or David Strathairn doing his Belter accent from The Expanse
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Data Graham posted:Or David Strathairn doing his Belter accent from The Expanse How could you not pick Jared Harris you monster
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:How could you not pick Jared Harris you monster Because Strathairn's is more piratey 
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Invalid Validation posted:I mean he’s a smuggler, pirate adjacent is pretty alright. Honestly, for Domon that's pretty true, though I always want him to come across as a thoroughly Legitimate Businessman. According to Theoryland, RJ thought the Illianers sounded Dutch, which fits the seafaring trader nation idea pretty well. So a Dutch pirate who talks without pausing for breath.
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Vavrek posted:Honestly, for Domon that's pretty true, though I always want him to come across as a thoroughly Legitimate Businessman. I know exactly one Dutch person and the description seems perfect to me. Reporting in from KoD to say that more happened in the prologue compared to the entirety of CoT. Currently 60% through it and there has been a pretty good mix of moving most storylines along.
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