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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Transmission is theoretically possible through contact with any mucous membrane. Much like an N95, eye protection is overkill outside of the hospital, but if it gives you peace of mind I'm not sure why eye protection would be overkill, though. It's easy to put on and practically eliminates a known infection vector. The issue isn't just aerosolized droplets from people being intubated in a hospital, it's also just accidentally rubbing your eyes after touching an infected surface or someone sneezing without covering their nose and mouth. e: Sorry Mithaldu you're just posting way faster than me
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Mithaldu posted:Mildly related, here's Scott Adams advocating for war. Honest question, how actually effective and scalable is this drug. The data I've seen is just a small sample size coming from China and a TON of anecdotal evidence.
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Mithaldu posted:Why is it overkill in e.g. a super market, where people will get up close to you, and where droplets cloud can hang out a good while due to the lack of wind? A trip to the grocery store is maybe 1/1000th of the exposure as a 12hr shift in a COVID ED or ICU will be. That's why N95s and face shields are essential to healthcare workers but not necessary for civilians. And the droplet cloud that's being studied is a model for airborne transmission. That doesnt apply to your eyes, or else the simple face shield that everyone in healthcare uses wouldn't be effective. The little droplets that shoot out of one's mouth for a sneeze or cough move in a straight line and they hit the floor fairly quickly. E: wear the eye protection if you want, sure, but the OP mentioned wearing glasses already and the image of a goon in the supermarket wearing a homemade denim face mask and a pair of scuba google had me  ing
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:A trip to the grocery store is maybe 1/1000th of the exposure as a 12hr shift in a COVID ED or ICU will be. That's why N95s and face shields are essential to healthcare workers but not necessary for civilians. Good to know my regular glasses or if someone wants to, sunglasses, are good enough
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Ultimate Mango posted:Why are people not picking up torches and pitchforks over this? Getting FDA approval to run medical tests on humans is complicated and time consuming. The test itself could probably be done in a high school chemistry lab, if they had the reagents and training, but those test results would not be allowed to be used medically. The labs that are certified have a huge backlog, so it takes 5 days to get the results back from a test that takes a few hours. USDA is in charge of animal testing, not the FDA. Where was the tiger tested? The article doesn't say, but it probably wasn't sent to the CDC or other human labs processing covid tests because those take 5 days to get results back. An appropriate animal science guy with the right lab equipment could test those lions and tigers and get the test results back the same day. So they did. My veterinarian is still open. Presumably the lab the veterinarian uses is still open too. So it might be faster for my cat to get test results back than for me to be tested and get results back because the veterinary system is not overwhelmed. 
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HoAssHo posted:Does anyone else feel like a bougie piece of poo poo getting groceries delivered? Why am I making this person risk their life so I can have almond milk? Like I'm too good to get my own groceries. ugh. What if I tip really excessively to the point where it's almost a little patronizing? Will that make it okay? Yes, excessive tipping helps. Those folks wouldn't be working delivery if they had other choices, so they need the money. Poor people love being patronized when it comes in the form of big tips.
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QuarkJets posted:I'm not sure why eye protection would be overkill, though. It's easy to put on and practically eliminates a known infection vector. The issue isn't just aerosolized droplets from people being intubated in a hospital, it's also just accidentally rubbing your eyes after touching an infected surface or someone sneezing without covering their nose and mouth. I'll back down from this argument, I'm being kinda snarky for no reason. I guess I kinda take the "better is the enemy of good" position here. But then I have no idea what kinda health issues you or your loved ones might have that you have to account for so yah do whatever you think is necessary for your well-being. 
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HoAssHo posted:Does anyone else feel like a bougie piece of poo poo getting groceries delivered? Why am I making this person risk their life so I can have almond milk? Like I'm too good to get my own groceries. ugh. What if I tip really excessively to the point where it's almost a little patronizing? Will that make it okay? You're not a bougie piece of poo poo for getting groceries deliveted; it's in the public interest for you to stay home. Ordering almond milk, however, puts you first in line for the guillotine.
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Shaocaholica posted:How exactly are the nutters framing how 5G is supposed to spread the virus? The microwaves can program your cells to make the virus with nothing more than the microwaves? Is this just a case for Poe’s law or people believe this over other nutter conspiracies about bio weapons labs in Virginia? One explanation I've seen is that viruses just . . . aren't a thing. The electricity poisons the cells, which then die and expel genetic material. This free floating genetic material is what the tests detect, and obviously there is a lot more of it whenever electrification increases and lots of cells get poisoned. Sort of like if you detected stabbing wounds by noticing how much blood is pooling around the body, and then deduced blood causes stabbing. In this paradigm vaccines not only don't work, they actively make things worse because the metal in the vaccine makes your cells more vulnerable to electricity. Vakal posted:And in 9 months there will be another baby boom outnumbering the deaths by probably like 10 fold. One generation of boomers passes away, another generation of boomers is born. Time is a flat circle. Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:One explanation I've seen is that viruses just . . . aren't a thing. The electricity poisons the cells, which then die and expel genetic material. This free floating genetic material is what the tests detect, and obviously there is a lot more of it whenever electrification increases and lots of cells get poisoned. Sort of like if you detected stabbing wounds by noticing how much blood is pooling around the body, and then deduced blood causes stabbing. To think we pay people to write science fiction and uncles on facebook are killing the game for free.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:A trip to the grocery store is maybe 1/1000th of the exposure as a 12hr shift in a COVID ED or ICU will be. BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:And the droplet cloud that's being studied is a model for airborne transmission. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2 Aerosol hangs out in the air for a little while, so it seems to be a valid risk factor to me even for the eyes. And the face shields for doctors are optimized for being useful, but also easily mass-produced. There's a tradeoff made here. BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:I'll back down from this argument, I'm being kinda snarky for no reason. I guess I kinda take the "better is the enemy of good" position here. But then I have no idea what kinda health issues you or your loved ones might have that you have to account for so yah do whatever you think is necessary for your well-being. QuarkJets posted:I'm not sure why eye protection would be overkill, though. It's easy to put on and practically eliminates a known infection vector. The issue isn't just aerosolized droplets from people being intubated in a hospital, it's also just accidentally rubbing your eyes after touching an infected surface or someone sneezing without covering their nose and mouth. 
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Redgrendel2001 posted:You're not a bougie piece of poo poo for getting groceries deliveted; it's in the public interest for you to stay home. It got Chidi sent to the Bad Place too. Remember this handy ditty: Keep almonds unsqueezed Your karma's a breeze! But if almonds you bleed On your soul demons will feed!
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I took the wife and kid to Honey Run Falls in Ohio yesterday, it was a clusterfuck. People were stopping to let others pass and whatnot, but it was still too close for comfort. Probably 200% visitors than on a day where people haven't been cooped up. This is a park, cross street, see falls kind of place, so it was hard to keep distance. However, there's a few, couple mile trails off the parking lot, and virtually no one but us was on it, so we hiked for a few hours with peace of mind and had a great time. I had to practically drive the wife, she's handling this ok, but still I can tell it's taking its toll on her.
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How do you even test a tiger? I feel like they would not be very receptive to having something stuck up their nose
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LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:How do you even test a tiger? I feel like they would not be very receptive to having something stuck up their nose You do this, but with a tiger. 
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Redgrendel2001 posted:You're not a bougie piece of poo poo for getting groceries deliveted; it's in the public interest for you to stay home. That's fair.
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Mithaldu posted:You do this, but with a tiger. no no
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Recently learned that Big Herc619 from Prison Talk is an antivaxxer and coronavirus conspiracy theorist. Smdh.
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LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:How do you even test a tiger? I feel like they would not be very receptive to having something stuck up their nose If they're anything like house cats just give them a chicky nug and do it quick while they're distracted. I'm not a tiger doctor though so
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Mithaldu posted:You do this, but with a tiger. I couldn't stop my eyes from squeezing shut after seeing this. Fuckin ouch.
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Mithaldu posted:I wonder if that's deep enough to trigger the puke reflex. No, but the irritation to the back of your throat will make you cough. I had to have a test at the ER and it was not pleasant.
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pop punk posted:I couldn't stop my eyes from squeezing shut after seeing this. Fuckin ouch. Basically they push it in until it naturally stops... then they jam it another couple inches to really get to the back of the sinuses.
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Facebook Aunt posted:One explanation I've seen is that viruses just . . . aren't a thing. The electricity poisons the cells, which then die and expel genetic material. This free floating genetic material is what the tests detect, and obviously there is a lot more of it whenever electrification increases and lots of cells get poisoned. Sort of like if you detected stabbing wounds by noticing how much blood is pooling around the body, and then deduced blood causes stabbing. Lol there’s no way the people who believe this made this up. I’m pretty sure all these conspiracy theories are just trolls.
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pop punk posted:Also I hope everyone here is doing as well as they can. I am mostly a lurker but have been here reading along since the first post. Just remember we are mostly in this together. (As far as our economic system allows.) Around 7 this evening here in Queens I suddenly heard what sounded like a stadium full of people cheering outside, which was weird considering the circumstances. I went out to my fire escape and there were people all up and down my block cheering, like a lot of people. I looked it up and apparently someone has been organizing city-wide cheers for "essential workers" and I'm a pretty cynical guy but it was pretty moving.
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Mozi posted:Lol go gently caress yourself
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Science Rocket posted:No, but the irritation to the back of your throat will make you cough. I had to have a test at the ER and it was not pleasant. That's good. Not as bad as a stent that's too long then.
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OpenSourceBurger posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1246623932767141890 I'm sure if he gets really sick he's just gonna stay home and let nature take its course, right? Oh wait just accepting death is only for other people, I forgot. What a loving scumbag.
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Picnic Princess posted:I really hope I already got the virus and just didn't get sick, for so many reasons, that included. If nationwide antibody testing becomes a thing, I'd sign right up just so I can hope I'd never have to have that done. Also to donate blood to help others if we get to that point. I really hope we do. I can't watch any news because I just end up crying. Yeah I'm just calming myself and texting with my gf and making plans for after this for disney. Being safe and smart is good but letting this shut wear you down is not how to live life.
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So I just want to bitch about my work situation. I’m in a northeastern state, and we are under a shelter at home order, but essential workers can go to work. I work for a company that makes medical products, but my entire facility is devoted to a product used in fertility medicine. I make stuff that has a 80 day expiration date, and the world won’t get back to normal enough for normal fertility doctors to be running again in that time. The corporation that owns us is insisting that we may even need to increase production numbers. I’m hoping they will realize sometime this week that they should stop asking me to risk my goddamn life to make a product nobody will ever use before it goes bad.
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