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Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

BiggerBoat posted:

Who the gently caress listens to this poo poo? And why does anyone care what these 2 people think? Why are they famous? Where did they come from?

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1244730489757368321

They're a pair of YouTuber morons who abruptly hopped on the Trump train once they saw there were griftbux to be made. Conservatives love them because they're not only tokens, they're also cartoonish "oh no you di-int!" sassy black woman stereotypes. They get to have it both ways.

Source: lived not too far from these idiots a few years ago, worked with a loving imbecile whose car was studded with "MY CAT IS A REPUBLICAN" and military bumper stickers despite never being in, or even married to anyone in, the military.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Fuckin for real.


At a certain point, these creationist flag sucking morons don't get to have it both ways. And, for me, that point was somewhere around 2016. I'm not a mean, selfish person who lacks empathy by nature but why am I, as a non believer, the one who has to turn the otehr cheek constantly and accommodate these childish, mean spirited, narrow minded pricks?

I'm not even sad to say it anymore and no longer use qualifiers to excuse my temperament. I hope every single member of these mega churches gets what they want, and I don't mean outlawing abortion and jailing gays. I'm all for them meeting their maker right now and making each other sick. Jokes on them when there's no Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh show in hell and all they can pick up is NPR. Put them all in there on Easter Sunday and chain the loving doors. Let them pray til their heart's content.

For real gently caress them all.

...

Yes I am bitter. Why do you ask?

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Apr 6, 2020

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Just got off the phone with Mom. Weekly check-in because i work at an airport and she worries about that a lot.

Turns out she's still a full on Fox and Friends Trump supporter. Breaks my loving heart. She blamed Obama for the shortage of medical supplies. I only said two things: 1) It's been THREE YEARS! Are you literally saying the administration couldn't do an inventory in all this time when they knew a pandemic was coming last November?! (Answer: deflection.) 2) The previous administration (I make a point never to say "Obama") literally left a playbook called "The Playbook" for how the federal government should manage a pandemic but they ignored it. Her response was "I don''t know who 'they' are so you shouldn't go throwing blame around."

They are likely to die under Trump but they will never ever under an circumstances criticize a single move he makes. Because: Fox News.

I am very sad.

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!


Judging from the picture, he was ironically the least myopic member of his family.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Mellow Seas posted:

Judging from the picture, he was ironically the least myopic member of his family.

more likely he was just as blind as trump and also tied "not wearing glasses" to his masuclinity

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Well, they died doing what they loved. Pumping their brains full of disinformation and owning the libs.

There's really no bottom with these people; reason, logic or anything. It's so cyclical and focused on goal post moving, starting with the conclusion first and then working out. It really is cult like and brainwashing of the most effective and highest order. Even staring death in the face doesn't change it.

Go back and read my OP and some of my earliest posts on this subject.

I'm not trying to be all Prester Jane and looking for accolades about being right - complete with my own invented language and everything - but RWM is no joke and dug in real hard. REAL hard. I've dealt with evangelicals, Amway distributors, Jehovah's Witnesses, survivalists and the tactics are all the same. They're still not stopping. In fact, they're doubling down and now need OANN because FOX isn't hard core enough about blaming this on Obama and Clinton.

I don't even blame this pandemic on Trump but I bet most conservatives think people like me do.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really


There is never any self-reflection with those types, it's always just doubling down again and again.

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012



He didn't cause it, but he's hosed up the response and isnt trying to fix it.

And yeah. RWM needs to be dug out root and branch.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

FilthyImp posted:

I hope he gave it to each and every one of those gammon-looking idiots.

Those women look like clones. It's like an anime where all the faces are the same and the hair colors are different so you can tell them apart. I had to check to make sure it wasn't one of those pictures where they put the same face on a bunch of different bodies.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Mom in the middle has super saiyan level Karen energy. That's the look someone gives when the manager overrides you.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Taerkar posted:

1.There is never any self-reflection with those types,

2. it's always just doubling down again and again.

1. Nope.

2. yes.

Now they're about to take us down with them and claim it's god's will, with Sean loving Hannity and Rush Limbaugh leading the way and cheering them on. I can't seem to reach any of these people they're so far gone. And they keep listening to it.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

BiggerBoat posted:


I'm not trying to be all Prester Jane and looking for accolades about being right - complete with my own invented language and everything - but RWM is no joke and dug in real hard. REAL hard. I've dealt with evangelicals, Amway distributors, Jehovah's Witnesses, survivalists and the tactics are all the same. They're still not stopping. In fact, they're doubling down and now need OANN because FOX isn't hard core enough about blaming this on Obama and Clinton.

You don't need anything new terms. There exists one that explains it.

Idealism

Basically, the real world only exists in your head. These people live in there own private universe. Really, we all do. Logic, math, science and all that just works differently in their universe. The history books are different too.

Unfortunately materialism is all the rage, because it makes cell phones and cars. But it fails at explaining truth, beauty, morality, and why people behave the way they do.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
I hate-listen to a bunch of conservative Christian radio, and it surprises me how many Evangelicals are buying into the "manufactured crisis" conspiracy when it comes to Covid19. Like, American Family Radio is thiiiiis close to going full-blown truther and saying the whole thing is a socialist hoax in order to take down Trump. Every broadcast focuses heavily on how "wrong" the models are, and they're acting like hydroxychloroquine is a miracle cure sent by God that liberals are rejecting because they hate alive people. They're whining about stay-at-home orders and demanding that America gets back to work. To say that they're downplaying the situation would be an understatement.

I would have thought that a pandemic would have them chomping at the bit to do the whole "call the nation to repent and blame it all on sinners" thing, but instead they're just waving their arms and screaming that there's nothing to see here. poo poo's bizarre.

duck.exe
Apr 14, 2012

Nap Ghost
Fox News is now basically telling their viewers how to take hydroxychloroquine

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1247698717303549953?s=21

They’re becoming Local 58 https://youtu.be/3c66w6fVqOI

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

DukeDuke posted:

Fox News is now basically telling their viewers how to take hydroxychloroquine

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1247698717303549953?s=21

They’re becoming Local 58 https://youtu.be/3c66w6fVqOI

That dose is at least well below the LD50 oral so assuming you actually have 200 mg tablets it's probably not going to kill too many people. Of course the kind of people who decide to self-dose based on something they saw on Fox News are also likely to decide 'well if two of these a day is good four must be GREAT' and blow up their heart or go blind.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
The delivery drivers (and probably 75% of the staff) where I work seem to fill their heads with am talk radio most of the day, which comes as no surprise. I stepped outside for a smoke break today and one driver was "I gotta hear this...the socialist is OUT" and ran to his van to listen to what I'm pretty sure wasn't NPR.

I just don't have it in me to "debate" with these people anymore, or even eavesdrop, but I overheard "free this and free that...how we gonna pay for it?!?...gotta give him credit for lasting this long" and, tbh, it really raises my ire. I doubt any of those dudes make more than me and they're actively celebrating what amounts to the death of affordable health care or college for at least the next 4 - 8 years.

How do they not know they, yes, maybe their taxes might go up a bit BUT they won't have that employee health care plan deduction every months so their paychecks will go up. Most studies I've read say it's basically a wash for the under $50k/year crowd but let's say for the sake of argument that your taxes go up $500 a year.

BUT you won't go bankrupt if you have a heart attack, a stroke or your child is injured in a car accident. If your daughter accidentally gets pregnant at 19 and decides to carry it to term, she will have no expense. MY SON, if he suffers ANOTHER epileptic seizure, it won't set me back another $3000 that I don't have. If your appendix bursts and you get rushed to the ER, you don't have to worry about the ambulance cost or whether the guy that sets your arm is "in network" or not.

The gently caress do they care if there's no M4A or, more, why don't they want it just because they've been told "socialism bad"?

They don't seem to have a problem with our socialist military, police force and fire department. Maybe they hate the USPS and have no use for libraries (they don't, lol). They get all of their news from corporate sponsored, think tank driven radio shows that are nothing more than infomercials disguised as news and from "discourse" driven by call screeners and even sometimes outright plants and actors disguised as "Joe from Boise".

gently caress, even if my boss' taxes went up, he's hardly the target audience for Sanders' proposals and any tax increase would be offset by him not having to deal with HC coverage as a constant business expense I would think. That would probably basically be a wash too but maybe a net increase in productivity since he'd probably have less paperwork to deal with. Ok, maybe not.

I mean, this poo poo convinces people that they're "free" when they're one trip to the ER away from going broke and they seem to take pride that "hey, at least we're workin' for our coverage and not a buncha' freeloaders"

My boss and I discussed this once and he said "well, how many go to work just for the heath care coverage?" and I agreed it was probably a lot. I don't we saw on eye to eye on whether this was a good or a bad thing.

...

Now we're gonna get 6 months of how Joe Biden is a big socialist and a bunch of sucking Trump's cock if the C19 death toll is less than 100,000 . It will either be "see? this was never a big deal" to "Look at this great job he did" and "only liberal cities had problems"..."liberals were HOPING for a big death toll"...and a big helping of "God saved us/liberal conspiracy" and all that poo poo. Whatever happens, they have their framing down and enough people will believe it. Worst case scenario? Well then it's "well it wasn't TRUMP's fault and look at the stock market. I mean, it took a global pandemic to raise the UE rate".

Only solace I take is I can decide not follow debates and to not go full political junkie until then since I'm going to sadly go pull the lever for Joe loving Biden and I have nothing to be excited about politically probably within my lifetime.

TL/DR:

Conservatives voters are happy for some reason that we have no chance of affordable health care coverage, can't wait to work themselves to death for nothing and have their C19 talking points in place no matter what happens.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BiggerBoat posted:

The gently caress do they care if there's no M4A or, more, why don't they want it just because they've been told "socialism bad"?

Their misery is justified by THOSE PEOPLE suffering. You know that Boat.

XtraSmiley
Oct 4, 2002

BiggerBoat posted:


TL/DR:

Conservatives voters are happy for some reason that we have no chance of affordable health care coverage, can't wait to work themselves to death for nothing and have their C19 talking points in place no matter what happens.

You know, I wonder if half of the grifters on FN/Conservative train came to this conclusion way before you man, and said gently caress it. You can't fix stupid and no matter what, there is ALWAYS a large group of people who go against their own interest.

Why not make money off that? I mean, I think inside, I would feel to guilty, or bad, or something. It must be my pesky conscious, but I swear if I didn't, I'd be a televangelist or a shill on FN.

Anyway, my TL/DR:

Stop getting so worked up about it, you'll never change their minds.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

I would have thought that a pandemic would have them chomping at the bit to do the whole "call the nation to repent and blame it all on sinners" thing, but instead they're just waving their arms and screaming that there's nothing to see here. poo poo's bizarre.

I know it seems bizarre, but they only pull out the "blame it on sinners" stuff when they know they won't ever be affected by it. The fact that this thing is taking devout fundies as well as dirty heathens is actually the thing that's causing them to panic.

Also, psychically, this crisis is quite a lot for them to handle. It not only disproves everything they've said about righteousness protecting them, but in one fell swoop it's showing how useless conservatism, individualism, capitalism, and small government philosophy are as tools for solving real problems. Previously they were privileged enough to never need to have that reckoning. They could live in their fantasy world spinning just-so stories about themselves and other people. The current crisis makes that impossible, and the only real strategy they have left is denial.

You saw a similar thing on the left when Hillary lost in 2016. The majority of liberals went all in on Russiagate rather than come to terms with the fact that Hillary had a lot of historical baggage (that she, herself, was responsible for), ran a pretty poor campaign that made it seem like she was entitled to votes from certain states/demographics, and advocated for inscrutable means-tested policies nobody could ever imagine helping them. It's easier to deflect and pretend nothing is fundamentally different than to engage honestly with a new reality.

So because this crisis makes all their political positions seem idiotic, they will instead retreat to complaining how current reality wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for those meddling teens meddling ruskies Chinese people. This is also why're they obsessed with hydroxychloraquine. If a cure existed then it would mean everything could go back to the way it was, and then they wouldn't have to deal with the current reality.

See also: birther conspiracies about Obama that fantasized about somehow invalidating the 2008 election

ErIog fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Apr 9, 2020

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



They're also all-in on a last-minute free-market innovation. That's basically conservative dogma at this point. We don't need a rainy day fund, we don't need to cut carbon emissions, we don't need to fix our infrastructure because when the time comes, the market will provide the best solution at exactly the right time.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
FOX News on Wisconsin

"Too Much Democracy"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Our CEO just sent out an email with a link to a "documentary" about the truth about the coronavirus.

It's by Epoch Times.

edit: it claims COVID-19 originated in a Chinese virology lab.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Apr 9, 2020

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

Groovelord Neato posted:

Our CEO just sent out an email with a link to a "documentary" about the truth about the coronavirus.

It's by Epoch Times.

edit: it claims COVID-19 originated in a Chinese virology lab.

you deserve a bonus for dealing with that poo poo.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Groovelord Neato posted:

Our CEO just sent out an email with a link to a "documentary" about the truth about the coronavirus.

It's by Epoch Times.

edit: it claims COVID-19 originated in a Chinese virology lab.

Isn't Epoch Times a Falun Gong mouthpiece?

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

Isn't Epoch Times a Falun Gong mouthpiece?

Yes, and I started getting YouTube ads from them

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Dirt Road Junglist posted:

Isn't Epoch Times a Falun Gong mouthpiece?

It is. They've also been up there with OANN in terms of being Trump sycophants.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Groovelord Neato posted:

Our CEO just sent out an email with a link to a "documentary" about the truth about the coronavirus.

It's by Epoch Times.

edit: it claims COVID-19 originated in a Chinese virology lab.

Started hearing that from a local right wing radio guy Lars Larson recently.

He was an early Trump supporter but is otherwise unexceptional in his opinions. Sort of disconcerting to hear late night conspiracy radio poo poo being broadcast on "respectable" daytime shows.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

Started hearing that from a local right wing radio guy Lars Larson recently.

He was an early Trump supporter but is otherwise unexceptional in his opinions. Sort of disconcerting to hear late night conspiracy radio poo poo being broadcast on "respectable" daytime shows.

lol this has been the deal since the late 80s, at the latest

it's just that all the insane stuff from back then has since become, "respectable"

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Groovelord Neato posted:

Our CEO just sent out an email with a link to a "documentary" about the truth about the coronavirus.

It's by Epoch Times.

edit: it claims COVID-19 originated in a Chinese virology lab.

Did you fire back or respond? I totally get why you wouldn't but that sort of poo poo should be illegal.

My boss is a MAGA dude but seems to enjoy it for some reason when I push back. poo poo, a decade ago he mass emailed some poo poo about Obama saluting with the wrong hand or doing the pledge wrong and I mass emailed a Snopes links right back. He seems to enjoy having me around as his token liberal to an extent and (I think) semi respects me for drawing lines in the sand.

He's dug in pretty deep but oddly compassionate at times. He gave me paid leave to go to rehab for drinking on the job when he should have fired me and seems to be trying hard to keep the shop open. He's promised that anyone furloughed will still have health insurance. He's a weird cat.

I've never once seen or heard him laugh though which is the biggest thing that scares me about him. Hard to trust or relate to anyone that seems to lack a sense of humor but, on occasion, he seems to enjoy our back and forths and sort of seems to enjoy debating me.

I dunno. It is what it is. Point being you shouldn't have to watch propaganda videos from your boss at work.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Apr 10, 2020

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

BiggerBoat posted:

Did you fire back or respond? I totally get why you wouldn't but that sort of poo poo be illegal.

My boss is a MAGA dude but seems to enjoy it for some reason when I push back. poo poo, a decade ago he mass emailed some poo poo about Obama saluting with the wrong hand or doing the pledge wrong and I mass emailed a Snopes links right back. He seems to enjoy having me around as his token liberal to an extent and (I think) semi respects me for drawing lines in the sand.

He's dug in pretty deep but oddly compassionate at times. He gave me paid leave to go to rehab for drinking on the job when he should have fired me and seems to be trying hard to keep the shop open. He's promised that anyone furloughed will still have health insurance. He's a weird cat.

I've never once seen or heard him laugh though which is the biggest thing that scares me about him. Hard to trust or relate to anyone that seems to lack a sense of humor but, on occasion, he seems to enjoy our back and forths and sort of seems to enjoy debating me.

I dunno. It is what it is. Point being you shouldn't have to watch propaganda videos from your boss at work.

Do you work at the White House

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

BiggerBoat posted:

Did you fire back or respond? I totally get why you wouldn't but that sort of poo poo be illegal.
Conservatives love GOpilling people. It gives them extra Satan Points for hell.

Boss probably thinks "BiggerBoat's so close to being a good person... if only I could get them to see the power of free market Supply Side Jesus capitalism . . .:riker:"

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

Do you work at the White House

oh poo poo. busted

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

FilthyImp posted:

Conservatives love GOpilling people. It gives them extra Satan Points for hell.

Boss probably thinks "BiggerBoat's so close to being a good person... if only I could get them to see the power of free market Supply Side Jesus capitalism . . .:riker:"

I think he just knows I'm good at my job and worth keeping around. I suspect he knows I'm fairly intelligent and may even respect having a person working for him that automatically doesn't kiss his rear end who presents articulate points.

I dunno. Maybe he gets a kick out of someone to use as a sparring partner or some sort of mascot. 95% of the shop seem to be conservatives who soak up FOX, talk radio or anything the boss man says. As I get older, I've learned to pick my spots but I never back down if he singles me out for something.

If I worked in the loving WHite House I'd have been fired long ago.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
So Hannity interviewed Bill O'Reilly.

two assholes posted:

"SEAN HANNITY (HOST): I want life back to normal, can you fix that in a simple way?

BILL O'REILLY: Oh man I wish I could, you know?

HANNITY: Oh, me too.

O'REILLY: But we're making little steps. Bernie Sanders, you know, he's -- he's gone, that's really good for everybody. The projections that you just mentioned are down to 60,000, I don't think it will be that high. 13,000 dead now in the USA. Many people who are dying, both here and around the world, were on their last legs anyway, and I don't want to sound callous about that.

HANNITY: You're gonna get -- hold on, you're going to get hammered for that.

O'REILLY: Well, I don't care. I mean, a simple man tells the truth."

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

BiggerBoat posted:

So Hannity interviewed Bill O'Reilly.

Holy poo poo I hope Bill O'Reilly gets it and dies slowly and painfully choking on his own lungs. loving monster. Hannity too for that matter.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
msnbc sucks p bad

https://twitter.com/pussymango/status/1249086096157351936

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249093268920467457

And it continues

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Hahaha omg he's going to torch Fox News to the ground for not sucking him off 24/7.

Tucker and Co better jump ship now.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I don't know how any of you stand to hate watch Fox News. I can't go ten seconds without wanting to hit these people in the head with a hammer.

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Hahaha Trump-senpai finally noticed them.

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