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Kase Im Licht posted:So I'm just going to pick your post to respond to but it's more of a general thing. You don’t “open things up” when your new case rate/fatality rate is at its peak you enormous idiot.
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i know what you're thinking... did he wipe with six squares, or only five? well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. but being that this is a triple-ply Charmin, the most powerful TP in the world, and would blow your butt clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' well do ya, punk?
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bird with big dick posted:You don’t “open things up” when your new case rate/fatality rate is at its peak you enormous idiot. sir you cant speak to the president like that
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Shaocaholica posted:Nursing homes just keep the dead around for the living to look at or something? Not just to look at...
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Chomp8645 posted:Every person and nation has two goals right now. i think it is more than a bit naive to think that "every person" actually shares goal number one here, especially people in power
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Earwicker posted:i think it is more than a bit naive to think that "every person" actually shares goal number one, especially people in power Well we know that, a few politicians have expressed on national TV that they welcome death themselves and are perfectly okay with seeing countless people die.
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I said come in! posted:It doesn't matter what people want. We are on the time schedule of the virus. We can come out and start up the economy again once it's done killing. If we relax isolation early then we just go back to square one of this pandemic and start all over again. The biggest problem is that these guys are saying that with social isolation in place getting to a herd immunity stage would take roughly six years. So basically the situation is that unless we can get a vaccine out in the next few years 2/3 of the planet is going to get it no matter what we do. And even then probably because there's no way to keep society segregated for three years or whatever.
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People are beyond delusional if they think that lockdown won't see some form of easing in the next few months. If you think countries will remain in this stasis for 2 years or more you simply have no grip on reality.
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Jeza posted:People are beyond delusional if they think that lockdown won't see some form of easing in the next few months. If you think countries will remain in this stasis for 2 years or more you simply have no grip on reality. I doubt it's going to even take months
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Apr 16, 2020 19:02
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Long established order can collapse and people who live through it typically deny it for as long as possible.
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You think we got a morgue, ventilator, hospital crew problems now. Lol
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You’re beyond delusional if you think any sort of governmental decree to get back to work is going to get me to stop playing Kerbal space program and leave my basement.
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This would be a fun time to read some first person accounts of the period between 1989 and early 90s in what used to be USSR
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Didn’t the Black Plague reduce income inequality? Maybe this will as well?
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i dont think theres any way the US would "remain in stasis" for two years when we arent even in any kind of stasis now, we have localized social distancing that has proven effective on a regional level but we also have areas where lockdowns are not being enforced resulting in poo poo like this: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/coronavirus-hot-spots-farm-belt-189272 quote:The only hospital in Grand Island, Neb., is full. The mayor has asked for a statewide stay-at-home order that the GOP governor insists isn’t needed. More than one-third of those tested for coronavirus in the surrounding county are positive — and there aren’t enough tests to go around. the result is not going to be one big "second wave" but a series of waves moving around the country which is going to get really messy combined with all these protest movements springing up Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 16, 2020 |
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bird with big dick posted:You’re beyond delusional if you think any sort of governmental decree to get back to work is going to get me to stop playing Kerbal space program and leave my basement. I got this when it was on sale last week but am too swamped at work to fire it up. Is it cool though y/n
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This planet and our civilization has seen lots of plagues. Only this one is accompanied by the 24hour news cycle and social media.
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Burt Sexual posted:You think we got a morgue, ventilator, hospital crew problems now. Lol Yeah, not only are there going to be millions dead from just COVID-19 alone, but also tens of millions of deaths from other diseases, injuries, preventable stuff too, things that don't normally kill people, are now going to because hospitals are overwhelmed and there is a lack of medication, supplies, and medical staff. poo poo is going to continue to get grim as gently caress for the next few years, and I am worried that people are not mentally prepared for that.
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bomb posted:Didn’t the Black Plague reduce income inequality? Maybe this will as well? Probably purely due to the people holding 99.9% of the wealth dying off. I don't think that's going to happen this time since they're just going to spread to other richie riches.
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bomb posted:Didn’t the Black Plague reduce income inequality? Maybe this will as well? Having a significant portion of the population dead increased the value of labour. Even if it kills a full 1-2% of the world population that will only slow down population growth.
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even if everything was opened up today, if you've got 80-90%+ of people who are still afraid of the virus you're not going to have a roaring economy anyhow if you want to restart stuff people need to feel safe, that they're not going to endanger themselves or their loved ones by seeing a movie or eating out. the gov't needs to gain that trust by mass testing so they it's clear to everybody where is safe and where is at risk, and by taking actions to lower that risk where necessary life does need to go on - we can't keep the word in stasis forever. but the reality is that we (the US) got ourselves in a really crappy situation and it's going to be a long hard road back to anything resembling normal. if we had built out our testing capability in January and kept a lid on anything from popping off we could be much closer to that today, but that's not what happened we know we need to gradually open up again, and we know that as that happens the virus will come back. we have to manage that as best we can, but as long as the fear is out there the economy will always be crippled. imo at least the US produces enough food for its own citizens. imagine sitting in some place in East Africa watching locusts eat all of your food as you wait in lockdown. what sort of future for your country might you imagine then? things are going to get real
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twit666 posted:https://www.amazon.com/All-American-Dildo-Dildos-Patriots/dp/B073X59K59 Being a Patriot and a Hero prohibited? Not in my United States!
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Well lets take a look one country brave enough to stand up the virus and keep living their lives https://twitter.com/ObsoleteDogma/status/1248692548375322626 
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Mozi posted:even if everything was opened up today, if you've got 80-90%+ of people who are still afraid of the virus you're not going to have a roaring economy anyhow Also this, I sure as gently caress am not leaving my home, pretty much under no circumstances. Amazon Fresh delivery is in my future for a very long time to come. I take my dog for a walk each day but that is pretty much it.
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The most realistic lockdown duration I’ve heard is through 2021, 2022 isn’t mainstream from what I’ve seen. Hell la even shutdown all events until 2022 starts.
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Shaocaholica posted:This planet and our civilization has seen lots of plagues. Only this one is accompanied by the 24hour news cycle and social media. we also have a lot more long distance/international travel than we did during those plagues
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bird with big dick posted:You’re beyond delusional if you think any sort of governmental decree to get back to work is going to get me to stop playing Kerbal space program and leave my basement. I salute you, soldier of the revolution.
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We have seen pandemics before. The problem wit this one is that people are not scared. People will not adhere to restrictions until everybody knows at least 1 person who is severely suffering or died of this. Then they might start to be afraid. But today's society is far to used to being safe to realize this poo poo is at your doorstep everywhere. This might also be different if Corona was some nasty rear end illness that makes you bleed from all orifices or explodes your head, footage would be all over the Internet and it would be tangible. Right now it is "just the flu" and nobody cares.
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People can have some a testing. as a treat.
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Look at this nice man, can you guess what he wants? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6B9Mmvpyo
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Hopper posted:We have seen pandemics before. The problem wit this one is that people are not scared. People will not adhere to restrictions until everybody knows at least 1 person who is severely suffering or died of this. Then they might start to be afraid. But today's society is far to used to being safe to realize this poo poo is at your doorstep everywhere. It's no different. People weren't scared in the old days till they actualy saw the dying either. It's all the same. e: The difference is everything is global. A country (south korea) can't remove restrictions and not get superfucked immediately. Everything is connected now.
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Hopper posted:We have seen pandemics before. The problem wit this one is that people are not scared. People will not adhere to restrictions until everybody knows at least 1 person who is severely suffering or died of this. Then they might start to be afraid. But today's society is far to used to being safe to realize this poo poo is at your doorstep everywhere. people can't connect the dots between 'im healthy and this probably won't kill me so i'm going out' and 'why is this ER so crowded that my kid who broke his ankle playing soccer can't get seen for three days'
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Kase Im Licht posted:The whole point was flatten the curve right? Not stay indoors until we find a cure? Why are people now acting like it's the second? The success of South Korea and Taiwan (China is loving lying and Singapore is now seeing an increase in cases) won't last because at some point they have to open up and then they'll get it. Closures for 18 months for a vaccine aren't realistic because you can't just write people checks when there's nothing to buy with those checks. The world economy will need to open up well before that and people will go nuts and demand to be let out before that. The newest data is in line with what we've found in other, similar viruses in the past: there is little long-term immunity developed from having Covid-19 and as such there is no such thing as long-term herd immunity through exposure. Not in a year, not in 6, not ever. We have to develop a vaccine that will cause a more pronounced immune response before "herd immunity" even becomes a rational concept to discuss again, and when we do, we have to distribute it to as much of the populace as possible, possibly including regular booster shots, before we will have herd immunity of any sort. Opening up and going back to business as usual results in the virus sweeping back and forth across the nation in erratic waves, killing millions. Reopening is not even similar in any way to a valid solution, and trying it will result in deaths with literally no benefit. The winners, economically, will be the countries that enforce enough of a lockdown that they don't lose a significant chunk of their population to the disease before it is controlled. The countries that reopen their economies to "preserve" them will be laughing all the way to the bank until their economies collapse out from under them. Shit Fuckasaurus fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Apr 16, 2020 |
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Burt Sexual posted:The most realistic lockdown duration I’ve heard is through 2021, 2022 isn’t mainstream from what I’ve seen. Hell la even shutdown all events until 2022 starts. Trudeau(Canada's PM) says that we wont get anything resembling normalcy until 2022.
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Bleusilences posted:Trudeau(Canada's PM) says that we wont get anything resembling normalcy until 2022. The problem is you can't keep people doing this for that long. People are literally going crazy because they're not used to being alone. Like a year is pushing it.
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Nurge posted:The problem is you can't keep people doing this for that long. People are literally going crazy because they're not used to being alone. Like a year is pushing it. Like I said in another thread I am almost a shut in and I am going nuts to not be able to do simple thing like go get a coffee. I can't imagine what/how an extrovert feels like right now.
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bird with big dick posted:You don’t “open things up” when your new case rate/fatality rate is at its peak you enormous idiot. Second, your statement is obviously false without context. If you can handle the peak, it being a peak is irrelevant.
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food court bailiff posted:I got this when it was on sale last week but am too swamped at work to fire it up. Is it cool though y/n It’s great but I’m waiting for the sequel.
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