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Il Federale posted:tensions are just high and he's stressed about the disease and unemployment, of course he may lash out but he doesnt really mean it I'm going to assume you're joking. Otherwise you are an irredeemable idiot and there is absolutely no hope for you.
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shovelbum posted:I like that Trump tells the states: this is not a federal issue, handle it someone told him he could get sued if he ordered everything back open so he passed the buck to the governors, its not hard to figure out
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I'm going to assume you're joking. Otherwise you are an irredeemable idiot and there is absolutely no hope for you. perhaps both posts you quoted are metajokes about current issues on these very forums and you should open a window and get some fresh air
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VikingSkull posted:perhaps both posts you quoted are metajokes about current issues on these very forums and you should open a window and get some fresh air But you guys aren't funny anywhere so I can only assume you aren't joking.
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Earwicker posted:California has been stopping and inspecting traffic coming in from other states for years as a method of controlling agricultural disease. If things get much worse, I don't see why doing the same to control human disease is so impossible to see. Also, a few weeks ago South Carolina had overhead signs and postings at rest areas saying that travellers from NY, NJ, and CT had to quarantine if they stay in SC. Those signs now just say "GO HOME STAY HOME" CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Apr 17, 2020 |
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VikingSkull posted:you know what, fair play, I thought you were talking about closing borders yeah sorry if i wasnt clear i think i said "control movement" which to be fair is pretty ambiguous actual full on closing of borders between states of course doesnt make sense. but on a basic level if State A is doing social distancing and State B is not, then State A has a choice of either closing for much longer than they would otherwise need to, causing their economy to suffer, or they institute some kind of control over people coming in from State B that results in tracking and isolating those who have the virus.
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Earwicker posted:yeah sorry if i wasnt clear i think i said "control movement" which to be fair is pretty ambiguous yeah I don't see an issue with that
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Bean posted:I’m a school teacher. We had 2 kids die last year, and it hosed all of us up. Kids, teachers, holy gently caress. We have a population of ~650 kids. You can’t kill minimum 7 of them and expect the others to be happy and productive. Holy gently caress. No one in this thread wants me to even go into what that’s gonna do to kids. Ah well you see that's a tragedy but if more kids die then it's a statistic. Badabing badaboom, problem solved. 
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Rectal Death Adept posted:There are literally, and i mean literally, democrats asking to sacrifice lives for the economy. Do you care to point out where a democrat said this? Literally quote:“It is always the American government’s position to say, in the choice between the loss of our way of life as Americans and the loss of life, of American lives, we have to always choose the latter.... It is policymakers’ decision to put on our big boy and big girl pants and say it is the lesser of these two evils. It is not zero evil, but it is the lesser of these two evils and we intend to move forward that direction.” Find me a literal quote where a democrat literally said that he'd be willing to have Americans literally die for the economy. edit: this statement has nothing to do with class. It's to do with all Americans dying for money. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 17, 2020 |
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CannonFodder posted:Texas is checking cars coming in from their border with Louisiana, and Florida is checking all cars entering along I-10, I-75, and I-95. That's just what I've seen personally as an "essential employee" driving my big rig. I don't know what exactly is being done at these checkpoints because I just get waved through, but I do note the Texas checkpoint has a medical trailer and the Florida checkpoint has several tents set up. Is it more fun being a trucker with less traffic? Does it feel lonely? (genuine questions here)
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Earwicker posted:hey guys im starting to think the poster named "coronavirus" might possibly be some sort of gimmick and/or troll, just a theory here *Rips of coronavirus' mask* Aha! It was you all along, corona virus!
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Det_no posted:Ah well you see that's a tragedy but if more kids die then it's a statistic. Badabing badaboom, problem solved. Appetizing
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Bean posted:I’m a school teacher. We had 2 kids die last year, and it hosed all of us up. Kids, teachers, holy gently caress. We have a population of ~650 kids. You can’t kill minimum 7 of them and expect the others to be happy and productive. Holy gently caress. No one in this thread wants me to even go into what that’s gonna do to kids. People started dying when I was in high school...a suicide...a car crash...and that was a mindfuck. Certainly the deaths of friends after highschool has also been a mindfuck. However, I can't imagine how I would have felt if one of my friends had died when I was eight.
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Does anyone have the lancet paper dr oz is citing? Still not convinced he means 3% of the CHILDREN will die, that makes no sense from what we know about fatality rates in kids, which seem to be extremely low. Not that it makes his attitude any less ghoulish, but it makes more sense that the 2-3% refers to something involving the general population that opening the schools would precipitate, if 2% of kids die then like 10% of the total population dies based on how much less fatal this is in 8 year olds than 80 year olds...
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Fatkraken posted:Does anyone have the lancet paper dr oz is citing? Still not convinced he means 3% of the CHILDREN will die, that makes no sense from what we know about fatality rates in kids, which seem to be extremely low. Not that it makes his attitude any less ghoulish, but it makes more sense that the 2-3% refers to something involving the general population that opening the schools would precipitate, if 2% of kids die then like 10% of the total population dies based on how much less fatal this is in 8 year olds than 80 year olds... i mean, who cares? that's a loving ghoulish thing for a doctor to say, no matter what the particulars are
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boar guy posted:i mean, who cares? that's a loving ghoulish thing for
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dwarf74 posted:Neat tool, but the logarithmic scale makes curves really non-intuitive. You can click the LOG button on the upper left and switch to linear.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:
I must be reading this wrong, because it makes absolutely no sense to me. Who do you think benefits from the american way of life that they're trying to protect?
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Bleusilences posted:Is it more fun being a trucker with less traffic? Does it feel lonely? (genuine questions here) It's eerie driving past outlet malls and restaurant rows and movie theaters and all of the parking lots are empty. And seeing billboards for music and comedy acts at the casinos and knowing that Sinbad show in Vicksburg just isn't happening. LOTS of construction, but I think that's also because April is the start of the second quarter and the second quarter is warmer so all of the construction projects are scheduled for then. The low traffic means shorter waits and less gridlock at the choke point of the construction zone. I skipped around the thread so I don't know if talk about the stimulus check is bad, but I got my check and donated it to my local food bank. I'm employed and financially stable so I don't need it. People who lost their jobs because their workplace is closed need the help and food. 
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yikes! posted:I must be reading this wrong, because it makes absolutely no sense to me. Who do you think benefits from the american way of life that they're trying to protect? Poor people having lovely lives is "the American way of life." He wants to protect that as well, by having any American die. Including rich boomers going out and spending money on Sunday brunch at their local diner.
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CannonFodder posted:There's no more rush hour, so that's nice. Truck traffic is still busy during the day and for most of the night but car traffic is just gone. so have your fuel prices remained the same? the price for regular ole unleaded here in california is lower than i have seen in at least 20 years or more
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boar guy posted:i mean, who cares? that's a loving ghoulish thing for a doctor to say, no matter what the particulars are https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30105-X/fulltext is the piece i think, with a link to the modelling study. The writer is opining that, given that in the model closing schools reduces OVERALL covid deaths by a couple % (so a country which would have had 100,000 instead has 97,000), it might not be worth the knock on effect on the kids quote:They found limited benefit on slowing the spread of the virus, and the authors stress that closures must be considered within the wider context of loss of essential workers due to childcare demands, restrictions in learning, socialising, and physical activity for pupils, and the substantial risks to the most vulnerable children, including those in low-income settings. Following school closures amidst the west African Ebola epidemic, rates of child labour, neglect, sexual abuse, and adolescent pregnancies spiked, and many children never returned to school. I'm not agreeing with dr oz, not in his message or the way he delivered it, but mischaracterising what he actually meant is disingenuous and also poor treatment of the original author who is talking about child wellbeing not Number.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Poor people having lovely lives is "the American way of life." He wants to protect that as well, by having any American die. Including rich boomers going out and spending money on Sunday brunch at their local diner. no i dont think the GOP want all americans equally to die, the virus disproportionately affects poor people and people of color, they know this, and i think they'd prefer their own base to live at least as long as november. remember the united states has a history of weaponizing epidemics. this poo poo is part of a pattern
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CannonFodder posted:I skipped around the thread so I don't know if talk about the stimulus check is bad, but I got my check and donated it to my local food bank. I'm employed and financially stable so I don't need it. People who lost their jobs because their workplace is closed need the help and food. You're a good human being. 
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I said come in! posted:What is he even talking about here???? He wants the governors in those states to stop mandating social distancing so economy numbers can look better. For Virginia he's referring to the super draconian gun control laws the governor tried to shove through right after the state elections. All but a few reasonably sane tidbits of this legislation recently got obliterated in the state legislature due to a near complete lack of support among "people living in Virginia" and it won't be back on the table for another year.
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Earwicker posted:no i dont think the GOP want all americans equally to die, the virus disproportionately affects poor people and people of color, they know this, and i think they'd prefer their own base to live at least as long as november. Oh yeah I fully understand that the poor people will suffer the most, but he isn't just targeting them. He wants any money going into ECONOMY to make ECONOMY GOOD. Regardless of who it kills. Poor people will definitely get killed more though as a result. edit: well not the super rich. Those people don't contribute to the economy anyway. I'm talking about <90%.
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Fatkraken posted:Does anyone have the lancet paper dr oz is citing? Still not convinced he means 3% of the CHILDREN will die, that makes no sense from what we know about fatality rates in kids, which seem to be extremely low. Not that it makes his attitude any less ghoulish, but it makes more sense that the 2-3% refers to something involving the general population that opening the schools would precipitate, if 2% of kids die then like 10% of the total population dies based on how much less fatal this is in 8 year olds than 80 year olds... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32272089?mod=article_inline Is the article. While writing this, I see you posted another copy. What he spoke of was taken out of context, you're correct. Still, you tell me if the thousands of additional deaths are worth that.
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Earwicker posted:so have your fuel prices remained the same? the price for regular ole unleaded here in california is lower than i have seen in at least 20 years or more $1.17 in Hattiesburg  but that's by far the lowest I've seen.
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CannonFodder posted:Deisel is about the same, maybe a bit lower, but gasoline has cratered across the board. Trump was also touting in one of his press briefings that he's working on deals to get oil prices back up. Most Americans are greatly benefiting from the low oil prices.
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Inept posted:e: not worth I was just gonna say you goons have kept on target today meaning the topic vs slapfights. So good job there
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we need to open up the posting economy or else our slapfighting champions will all go bankrupt LIBERATION!!!!
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LIBERATE POSTING! Your first amendment rights are under siege!
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CannonFodder posted:Texas is checking cars coming in from their border with Louisiana, and Florida is checking all cars entering along I-10, I-75, and I-95. That's just what I've seen personally as an "essential employee" driving my big rig. Hell of a post/username here
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Oh yeah I fully understand that the poor people will suffer the most, but he isn't just targeting them. He wants any money going into ECONOMY to make ECONOMY GOOD. Regardless of who it kills. Poor people will definitely get killed more though as a result. Trump wants economy good because its the only thing he could boast about that wasn't attacked, as even democratic voters liked a good economy. What he naturally doesn't understand is that nobody gives a gently caress about a good economy (which will not return quickly any way) when they and their family are dying (which they will if he gets his way). A good (great) economy is the only solid basis trump has (had) so of course he wants to protect it without thinking any step further.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Trump was also touting in one of his press briefings that he's working on deals to get oil prices back up. I mean we always benefit from lower oil prices but right now it doesn't really matter. Where is anyone going to go? It's partially cheap due to demand plummeting.
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Charliegrs posted:I mean we always benefit from lower oil prices but right now it doesn't really matter. Where is anyone going to go? It's partially cheap due to demand plummeting. Yeah the bottom fell out of demand DURING a slapfight between Saudi and Russia, it's insanely low
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Charliegrs posted:I mean we always benefit from lower oil prices but right now it doesn't really matter. Where is anyone going to go? It's partially cheap due to demand plummeting. I will consume many gallons of gasoline driving my car in circles around my state capitol and honking my horn to express my intense emotional pain at the withering of my lawn and my inability to aimlessly meander around Home Depot looking for nothing in particular.
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