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uncop
Oct 23, 2010
I find it funny he personally participates in manufacturing consent for whatever the gently caress the Democratic Party wants to do, simply for it probably not being the worst possible outcome.

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Parenti is the better old white guy to recommend to people to read if they are interested in socialism.

His writing is clear and he won't tell you to vote for Biden.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Atrocious Joe posted:

Parenti is the better old white guy to recommend to people to read if they are interested in socialism.

His writing is clear and he won't tell you to vote for Biden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHYs-8yM70U

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

comedyblissoption posted:

chomsky sucks, but someone who condemns economic social hierarchies and markets isn't a liberal by definition

could be a social liberal or a liberal socialist

Any case he sucks

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Gnome Chompsky strikes again

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Peanut President posted:

Gnome Chompsky strikes again

This is chumpsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4x9G0yQRrY

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Atrocious Joe posted:

Parenti is the better old white guy to recommend to people to read if they are interested in socialism.

His writing is clear and he won't tell you to vote for Biden.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

2 years apart

MIT professor gets all the attention

Fix is in

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Shear Modulus posted:

betrayed by bernie and by chomsky within like a week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpa7GR-EyF0

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

comedyblissoption posted:

chomsky sucks, but someone who condemns economic social hierarchies and markets isn't a liberal by definition

there's a hierarchy famously named after him. checkmate 😎

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
how bout an Alaskan guy, Nome Chomsky

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
I think you mean Siqnazuaq Chomsky, colonizer

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
I hope Chris Hedges runs third party at some point

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
chris hedges seems like he's careening towards being completely blackpilled.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Dreylad posted:

chris hedges seems like he's careening towards being completely blackpilled.

what do you think "sublime madness" means? he has been black pilled since 2009

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
Chris Hedges with Cornel West as VP

:awesome:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

A4R8 posted:

Chris Hedges with Cornel West as VP

:awesome:

electoral politics are dead

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Top City Homo posted:

what do you think "sublime madness" means? he has been black pilled since 2009

and yet he always seems to find another level of hopelessness every few years

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Dreylad posted:

and yet he always seems to find another level of hopelessness every few years

his theory of sublime madness is quite simple and good

We are all doomed so let's at least attempt revolution

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Dreylad posted:

and yet he always seems to find another level of hopelessness every few years

You’re the one still living in a dreamworld that monopolized capital i.e. fascism can be “swayed” or “bargained with”

The only alternative is revolution, in whatever form that takes. Chris Hedges is right.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Dreylad posted:

chris hedges seems like he's careening towards being completely blackpilled.

its the only way he can get a pass for the round spectacles

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

A4R8 posted:

You’re the one still living in a dreamworld that monopolized capital i.e. fascism can be “swayed” or “bargained with”

The only alternative is revolution, in whatever form that takes. Chris Hedges is right.

i what now? When did I say he was wrong?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

GalacticAcid posted:

how bout an Alaskan guy, Nome Chomsky



Gnolam Chomsky

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

gradenko_2000 posted:



Gnolam Chomsky

Is that a spooky specter in your pants or are you just happy to see me.

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer

Top City Homo posted:

his theory of sublime madness is quite simple and good

We are all doomed so let's at least attempt revolution

This is the same dude that condemned Antifa for setting a limousine on fire. Dude sucks

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Hilario Baldness posted:

This is the same dude that condemned Antifa for setting a limousine on fire. Dude sucks

lol I had to look this up



Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Hilario Baldness posted:

This is the same dude that condemned Antifa for setting a limousine on fire. Dude sucks

And what about Bernie?

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Ardennes posted:

And what about Bernie?

I think much of bernies support was as a compromise: a guy who would implement stuff that would help americans organise and empower direct action by lessening the stranglehold of capital, and also would have a markedly less imperialistic foreign policy, a very good thing for comrades outside America.

but yeah he's a bitch for supporting joe lol. my good friend the rapist!!

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oef3wLs3HI&t=3560s
im the winnipeg university marxist economics faculty chanting at chris hedges to shut the gently caress up liberal and shaming him out of the roojm

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
ahh, love all those non-violent revolutions

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
the only moral revolution was the Carnation Revolution

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Oh god, I thought that was going to be parenti endorsing biden

btw parenti was my first exposure to real leftist thought, via leftover crack

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

gradenko_2000 posted:

the only moral revolution was the Carnation Revolution

Also, it only happened because the Portuguese state was on the brink of collapse after fighting a series of losing colonial wars. Revolution only happens when the monopoly of force is in question.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

E.: gently caress it not worth it

T-man fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Apr 26, 2020

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

dex_sda posted:

I think much of bernies support was as a compromise: a guy who would implement stuff that would help americans organise and empower direct action by lessening the stranglehold of capital, and also would have a markedly less imperialistic foreign policy, a very good thing for comrades outside America.

but yeah he's a bitch for supporting joe lol. my good friend the rapist!!

Bernie was always the compromise, and I think most of the people who were behind him knew that. Shame he's spent too much time reading policy and eating from the jellybean desk.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
bernie panders

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

T-man posted:

Bernie was always the compromise, and I think most of the people who were behind him knew that.

Lol

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

:berned: :bernin: :bern101: :bernchloe: :bernget20: :berninator: :bernout: :bernpop:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

GalacticAcid posted:

bernie panders

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

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