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Palpatine had it good. He got to kill the Jedi Order TWICE over.
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May 5, 2020 22:49
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May 5, 2020 23:27
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Vinylshadow posted:Palpatine had it good. He got to kill the Jedi Order TWICE over. Killed off all those accursed Skywalkers, possessed a new young body, and stole their name as an ironic joke. Sheev has truly lived the dream
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May 5, 2020 23:33
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Rey-Sheev is going to singlehandedly rebuild the jedi and the republic again, just so s/he can destroy them again. If only we could all be so committed to a bit
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May 5, 2020 23:47
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I can’t imagine how bored and depressed Palpatine must have been in the post-Republic pre-Rebellion era. I think orchestrating the Clone Wars and corrupting and destroying the Jedi had have been more about the journey than the destination for him.
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May 5, 2020 23:54
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Ingmar terdman posted:Yeah dooku in AOTC and kylo in TFA are really the two times where someone is just stoked to a sparring partner at first Obi Wan is super thrilled about fighting Grievous in episode 3 as well
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May 6, 2020 00:02
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General Dog posted:I can’t imagine how bored and depressed Palpatine must have been in the post-Republic pre-Rebellion era. I think orchestrating the Clone Wars and corrupting and destroying the Jedi had have been more about the journey than the destination for him. Snoke was just his half-finished novel/old car he tinkered around with between trilogies. Just like how anakin had threepio, another animated skeleton covered in gold
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May 6, 2020 00:06
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May 6, 2020 01:30
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Ingmar terdman posted:Snoke was just his half-finished novel/old car he tinkered around with between trilogies. Just like how anakin had threepio, another animated skeleton covered in gold Snoke was him challenging himself. "Alright, I destroyed the Jedi order by posing as a charming, helpful senator with access to all of the Republic's resources... but can I do it as a creepy skeletal man in a tacky robe who comes out of nowhere and has a stupid name?"
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May 6, 2020 04:51
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"poo poo, gently caress! It was even easier this time!"
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May 6, 2020 05:41
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May 6, 2020 07:11
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2house2fly posted:Obi Wan is super thrilled about fighting Grievous in episode 3 as well
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May 6, 2020 16:07
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I was all prepared to write a response to the wall of text, but he’s just calling me a queer for criticizing decorated war hero Leia Organa. Lol 
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May 6, 2020 17:15
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She was decorated until an animatronic ET doll robbed her corpse to fulfill a decades-old proto-meme I guess
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May 6, 2020 17:29
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General Dog posted:I can’t imagine how bored and depressed Palpatine must have been in the post-Republic pre-Rebellion era. I think orchestrating the Clone Wars and corrupting and destroying the Jedi had have been more about the journey than the destination for him. The Zillo Beast 2-parter of Clone Wars really shows Palpatine indulging himself in shameless, joyous evil. It's a terrific episode, not just for that but for being a good homage to King Kong.
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May 6, 2020 17:30
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General Dog posted:I can’t imagine how bored and depressed Palpatine must have been in the post-Republic pre-Rebellion era. I think orchestrating the Clone Wars and corrupting and destroying the Jedi had have been more about the journey than the destination for him. You missed him cackling and having the time of his life around a bubbling cauldron chanting spells then.
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May 6, 2020 18:19
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mllaneza posted:The Zillo Beast 2-parter of Clone Wars really shows Palpatine indulging himself in shameless, joyous evil. It's a terrific episode, not just for that but for being a good homage to King Kong. Not to mention Godzilla. They even uncover the Zillo beast when they're testing out a new type of bomb.
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May 7, 2020 04:16
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And it's the last of its kind, impervious to basically everything, and can sense that Palpatine is a Sith Lord
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May 7, 2020 04:28
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Do Tatooine locals think Luke murdered his aunt and uncle? It would seem awfully suspicious that they were murdered right before he ran away with a religious zealot and blew up an a military installation.
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May 7, 2020 04:34
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I assume they’d just blame the s*** p*****
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May 7, 2020 06:43
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nerf herder you can't say that word. that's OUR word.
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May 7, 2020 13:13
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I should have waited to watch Rise of Skywalker. Now I'm going to watch it just to have something to watch with family and I'm going to have watched it twice After I heard that there was an EU comic with a lot of flying Palpatine clones that was terrible, I had gotten the impression that at least the existence of that meant at least Disney wouldn't be trying anything with Palpatine clones. The movie would've been better if they had used a different villain in place of Palpatine, but they'd have had to have set that up in an earlier movie. I'd say that's what happens when your stories are written by three separate groups of people without coordination in a "passing around the campfire story continuation staff" improv kind of way, but I think there are TV shows that have done a lot better with that situation. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 02:11 on May 8, 2020 |
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May 8, 2020 02:05
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galenanorth posted:I should have waited to watch Rise of Skywalker. Now I'm going to watch it just to have something to watch with family and I'm going to have watched it twice I completely agree with your take. Although I would point out that they already had a villain set up for the final film: Kylo Ren. It's sad because he was the dang Skywalker of this younger generation and thus should have had that much weight in the conclusion to the "Skywalker Saga" (god I hate that phrase). Lucasfilm under Disney has simply been creatively bankrupt. It scares me because all of the press before and after RoS was about moving on from the "Skywalker saga / story" and on to greener pastures, yadda yadda. But if you gently caress up the story involving the characters that are the backbone of the entire franchise -- how are you going to pull a story out of thin air and have it be worth a poo poo? It's like tee ball vs baseball -- everything was just right there set up on a platter and they hosed it up. Even Rian Johnson's film, which was much more original and interesting than the other two... even it had problems. It felt like he was being held back and had to play it too safe, so the film ended with ATATs marching toward a rebel base on a not-snow planet. How is Lucasfilm under Kathleen Kennedy going to invent a new story that we care about and also do a good job with it? I have zero faith in their ability to do that at this point. I think in a few years they'll end up paying an arm and a leg for Daisy Ridley to come back to show Rey's next big adventure or whatever. They might do away with the trilogy structure and turn this into a Dragon Ball Z type situation where there's a saga / story until it resolves and some new threat crops up. That wouldn't be as torturous as dealing with my namesake yet again. Grandpa Palpatine fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 8, 2020 |
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May 8, 2020 05:44
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It still feels like a weird fever dream that Disney decided to kill off all the original main characters, and in the movie The Rise Of Skywalker specifically killed the last two members of the Skywalker bloodline, neither of whom has the name Skywalker anyway
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May 8, 2020 05:49
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2house2fly posted:It still feels like a weird fever dream that Disney decided to kill off all the original main characters, and in the movie The Rise Of Skywalker specifically killed the last two members of the Skywalker bloodline, neither of whom has the name Skywalker anyway Hey man, Luke was jaded as gently caress in TLJ. He definitely hit up some dive bars at the Bakura Outpost. Maybe he's got a couple of younglings out there...
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May 8, 2020 06:07
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2house2fly posted:It still feels like a weird fever dream that Disney decided to kill off all the original main characters, and in the movie The Rise Of Skywalker specifically killed the last two members of the Skywalker bloodline, neither of whom has the name Skywalker anyway I don't know if Leia's death was in the original plan and Luke's death doesn't prevent him from being a character. Making him a force ghost is a pretty good way of keeping him around without the story having to justify why he isn't solving every problem.
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May 8, 2020 06:08
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galenanorth posted:I should have waited to watch Rise of Skywalker. Now I'm going to watch it just to have something to watch with family and I'm going to have watched it twice Kinda like they knew what they were doing was shameful lmao
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May 8, 2020 06:09
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:How is Lucasfilm under Kathleen Kennedy going to invent a new story that we care about and also do a good job with it? I have zero faith in their ability to do that at this point. I think they can still pull it off on television.
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May 8, 2020 06:09
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Pretty good posted:I mean the text of the movie doesn't state that he's a clone, it's literally Literally "somehow, palpatine returned" lmao yea but in doing so they made it even more obvious that it was all a load of lazy bullshit storytelling.
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May 8, 2020 06:42
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Bongo Bill posted:I think they can still pull it off on television. I'm kind of worried that they didn't know the Mandalorian was going to be as well received as it was and now that they do, season 2 is going to be crammed with fan-pandering bullshit and 500% more baby Yoda.
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May 8, 2020 13:38
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Captain Splendid posted:I'm kind of worried that they didn't know the Mandalorian was going to be as well received as it was and now that they do, season 2 is going to be crammed with fan-pandering bullshit and 500% more baby Yoda. Hate to break it to you but the entire concept of a boba Fett show is fan pandering bullshit
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May 8, 2020 13:40
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I’m ok with a Boba Fett return if he’s a villain on the Mandolorian.
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May 8, 2020 14:01
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Jewmanji posted:Hate to break it to you but the entire concept of a boba Fett show is fan pandering bullshit On paper, sure, but they somehow managed to make a watchable show so far.
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May 8, 2020 14:02
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Pretty good posted:I mean the text of the movie doesn't state that he's a clone, it's literally Literally "somehow, palpatine returned" It's incredible how openly ashamed they are about bringing back Palpatine. The movie refuses to offer any explanation, because it knows any explanation will be unsatisfactory, and Disney went to far as to tip its hand that he was returning 6 months in advance just so the moviegoing public would have time to make peace with the plot point.
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May 8, 2020 14:39
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Captain Splendid posted:On paper, sure, but they somehow managed to make a watchable show so far. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying it, just don’t pretend that they didn’t simply crank the fan service dial to 11 the moment they announced the show. It’s pure fan service, through and through. Season 2 couldn’t have more fan service in the same way that you can’t add 1 to infinity.
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May 8, 2020 14:57
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Jewmanji posted:There’s nothing wrong with enjoying it, just don’t pretend that they didn’t simply crank the fan service dial to 11 the moment they announced the show. It’s pure fan service, through and through. Season 2 couldn’t have more fan service in the same way that you can’t add 1 to infinity. Oh god, it could have been way worse. Fan service is also adding in a million cameos for no reason. Season 2 is already adding Ahsoka (and thus another Force user), it could also easily add in every character from Rebels and Clone Wars missing and then pop up locations and cameos from the Old Republic and have HK-47 show up as a sidekick while the original trilogy cast rotates guest appearances every episode.
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May 8, 2020 15:21
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Jewmanji posted:There’s nothing wrong with enjoying it, just don’t pretend that they didn’t simply crank the fan service dial to 11 the moment they announced the show. It’s pure fan service, through and through. Season 2 couldn’t have more fan service in the same way that you can’t add 1 to infinity. Just what the gently caress do you think Star Wars is? Or are you one of the people who loved all the new beige blob aliens and was glad to see zero existing aliens in the sequel trilogy?
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May 8, 2020 16:46
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As far as fan service goes, for me least, there's a hell of a load of difference between scenes like this: ...where it actually serves as part of the plot. And stuff like this...  ...where it's just "HEY! REMEMBER THIS?!" Not to say the Mandalorian didn't have a few moments like that (e.g. Salacious Crumb rotisserie) but aside from Dave Filoni's episode it never felt that egregious. If you'd told me before that an episode centred around Jawas was one of the best I wouldn't have believed you.
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May 8, 2020 17:26
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Why? Jawas are almost as good as ewoks
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2house2fly posted:It still feels like a weird fever dream that Disney decided to kill off all the original main characters, and in the movie The Rise Of Skywalker specifically killed the last two members of the Skywalker bloodline, neither of whom has the name Skywalker anyway The answer is clones. Oops, someone got their hands on Luke's severed hand - here's a new, younger set of Skywalker twins for Rey to train. Uh oh, whatever is left of the first order kept some Kylo hairs in cold storage in case of emergency, Ben Solo is back. Or they could just do "the Force did it", bonus points if grown up Yodito was involved. Either way, they're not done with Skywalkers, because the franchise is dead without them.
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