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cambrian obelus posted:Fun fact, one of the developers used pictures of their colonoscopy as inspiration in designing the textures for the body of the many. Think about that when your seeing the vein covered walls and the endless sphincters. Do you think they took a leaf out of the Doom devs' book where they straight-up used a photo of someone's hairy arm as a texture?
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New Episode! Let's Play System Shock 2 Episode 19 - Might Be Teeth Hope you like bodily fluids!!!!!
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# ? May 14, 2020 21:08 |
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"There's gotta be some way to gently caress it." (Dan, 2020) e. Also you missed a log. It was on the ground just before the first tooth. Mikl fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 14, 2020 |
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I'm really glad I'm not playing this, because it would be impossible for me to navigate through The Many.
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# ? May 14, 2020 21:54 |
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I actually really like The Many as a stage, but again I have a pretty drat good sense of direction. I also liked Xen though so
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# ? May 14, 2020 23:30 |
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"You could totally have saved them if they weren't already dead!... 14 medkits isn't enough, you're gonna die."
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# ? May 15, 2020 02:35 |
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so which of the looking glass team do you reckon was into vore
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Whybird posted:so which of the looking glass team do you reckon was into vore I dont know but I am absolutely kink shaming them And now, since I feel bad for being slow as poo poo at subtitling for the last month: New Episode! Let's Play System Shock 2 Episode 20 - The Big SHODAN Its completed! A huge goddamn thanks to Shodanpedia for making this process way easier than it should have been. I like this game a lot
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# ? May 15, 2020 17:57 |
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Congrats! Re: Rebecca, one possibility is that Shodan got into her through the Many. Somehow. Or that Shodan rigged some kind of bot to transfer herself into Rebecca. There's a log partway though the game, when Tommy and Rebecca hadn't escaped yet, which is her saying "hey Tommy don't freak out but this thing bit me and now I feel sick", maybe that's when Shodan got her.
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# ? May 15, 2020 18:46 |
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This game was co-developed by Irrational Games and Looking Glass. Ken Levine had previously worked for Looking Glass on Thief before leaving to start Irrational. Also I'm not sure if you were aware, but you could have used those 3 ICE-picks you threw away to take down the shields much faster.
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Mikl posted:Congrats! Perhaps the reality warping effect managed to reach their pod and Shodan infected Rebecca in some permanent way before getting destroyed.
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Wiseblood posted:Also I'm not sure if you were aware, but you could have used those 3 ICE-picks you threw away to take down the shields much faster. Yeah, I mentioned that while we were falling down the chute to the Shodan-hole. Apparently you can also just shoot the shield until it dies. We certainly had the ammo
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# ? May 15, 2020 19:53 |
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OH I JUST REMEMBERED When the game first came out, there was a bug that would occasionally make the Brain Many fight literally unwinnable. As Dan so handily demonstrated, attacking the brain outright does no damage: first you have to destroy the three floaty bits around it, which are shielding the brain. Well because of the bug, one of the floaty bits would just not spawn, so it couldn't (obviously) be destroyed, and so you could never turn off the invulnerability of the brain of the Many. Of course the bug was fixed with the very first patch, but these being the early 'aughts, with no automatic patching, it lead to quite a bit of grumbling on online forums.
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# ? May 15, 2020 22:56 |
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I approve of wanting to show off "oops I hurtled into space". "The floor is lava now" is always as super dick move, but it's especially petty when they put it in front of an interactable. As for spoiler chat? One of her audio logs has "Hey Tommy, I found some medkits, guns, ammo, a mysterious cyber implant" wait what was that last bit "Okay bye tommy don't die!" I think that's the closest thing we get to an explanation. That unlike Dan, she didn't hurl suspicious implants into space once she was done with them to avoid horrible side effects. But hey, at least she wasn't constantly eating space worms like Dan! So we'll call it a draw. Section Z fucked around with this message at 23:36 on May 15, 2020 |
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Section Z posted:I approve of wanting to show off "oops I hurtled into space". Oh poo poo you're right, heres the log in question: Siddons posted:I'm trying to get up to find you, Tommy, but I can't. I'm stuck in Ops. There's some kind of civil war going on here... the security forces came in and... Now don't freak out, but I'm hurt... but not too bad, I managed to pull together a supply of med kits and a few other goodies... some of it looks valuable, but I'm not sure what it is, maybe some kind of military grade implant. I left the stuff I didn't need in a corner of the data library, out of the way in case I need it later. I'm on my way. I promise you, I will not die. I will not die. You do the same, my love. Yours... Becca. I actually misunderstood it the whole time and missed the "stuff I didnt need" part, thinking she meant she left it all in a stash and she was talking about one of the 50 endurboosts I've picked up and recycled without thinking. That's a good catch
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Danaru posted:Oh poo poo you're right, heres the log in question: I can't blame anyone for forgetting even during a play-through because not only do they shove it into the middle of a paragraph about generic looting, but you're shoving all kinds of wacky poo poo into your own cyber slots anyways. So "Military implant" sounds downright harmless compared to discovering mutant hearts created by a parasitic bio horror are USB compatible. So it just sounds like more 'Gameplay explained in character' (Hey Tommy, giant spiders can poison you!) until you reach the ending long after you've forgotten about it, and there are much more in your face sci-fi possibilities like some mentioned above. Section Z fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 15, 2020 |
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Mikl posted:OH I JUST REMEMBERED That's why you should play as a
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# ? May 16, 2020 02:29 |
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Thanks for the With the "oh no Rebecca is now Shodan!" sting, my assumption has always been that it was something Shodan managed to do via the reality-warping effect of the FTL drive. Delacroix did mention in that log that Shodan's influence was spreading out from the ship, so it seems clear that she made a copy of herself that replaced/co-opted Rebecca as that influence reached the escape pod. It could be literally anything considering it was a warping of reality - but to me that seems most likely what they were going for. Wiseblood posted:This game was co-developed by Irrational Games and Looking Glass. Ken Levine had previously worked for Looking Glass on Thief before leaving to start Irrational. In fact if you watch the credits for SS2, they're accompanied by pictures of a bunch of the developers pretending to be the ubiquitous lootable corpses in the game - and one of them is Ken Levine.
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# ? May 16, 2020 03:04 |
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Congrats on the LP Yeah, Shodan infecting people's cyber implants makes a lot of sense, really. I'm actually surprised they didn't pull a Diablo and have the twist being that she's infected the player without us knowing.
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Antistar01 posted:It could be literally anything considering it was a warping of reality - but to me that seems most likely what they were going for.
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# ? May 16, 2020 09:13 |
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I guess it's possible, though from memory Shodan was saying that she could have chosen someone else to have a cybernetic rig installed, not that she already had done that to other people besides the player character. Plus I don't think Rebecca was indicated at any point to have a cybernetic rig like that? Were any characters besides "the soldier" noted as having a cyber rig? Also the "Rebecca is now Shodan" reveal comes immediately after the part where Shodan is altering reality, and the entire handling of that scene - with Rebecca's voice and appearance seeming to shift into that of Shodan - to me points to a much more drastic change than her just being hacked via implants that I'm not sure she was even established as having in the first place.
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I feel like its implied that most people have rigs, just that they have basic bitch ones for like e-mails and cyber module upgrades. Otherwise they have a lot of upgrade consoles around that nobody can use The reality altering thing makes sense, but Tommy mentions that Siddons started acting strangely when they got on the pod, which is long before I finally hauled my fat rear end up into the Rickenbacker. My best guess is that she held on to the wonky implant, then when she got gooped by the spider she figured "well I'm hosed either way" and slapped it in, then it either cured her or Shodan started manipulating her too and saved her. Plus reality went back to normal after we shot up the Shodan orb, but thatd be easy enough to write around
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Crazy Achmed posted:Congrats on the LP She infected the GamePig™. That sweet, innocent entertainment device you'd be playing all the way back home, just in case Rebecca doesn't make it. You'll plug it in to finally download some new games, and she'll infect every rom site on the internet within 24 hours. You know, as a backup strat.
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# ? May 16, 2020 14:37 |
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One thing I'm perplexed about, though. Is Rebecca-Shodan the actual, real Shodan? Or is she a copy? And if she is a copy, how does it jive with Shodan's whole "I am a god" shtick? Because creating copies of yourself isn't very godly. Unless the end point is to remake all of humanity in your own image 🤔
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# ? May 16, 2020 15:38 |
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Shodan v. 2 was created from the salvaged Citadel Shodan. Is she the same as that one? One option for a hypothetical System Shock 3 would be to have both Rebecca and a fragment of the Von Braun competing against each other for the title.
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Danaru posted:I feel like its implied that most people have rigs, just that they have basic bitch ones for like e-mails and cyber module upgrades. Otherwise they have a lot of upgrade consoles around that nobody can use I forgot about the spider bite, which leaves them an opening to "what if Rebecca got infected by shodan AND the many?" But I dunno, I feel like the many don't necessarily need to come back in the next game. Not just yet, anyway.
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Danaru posted:I feel like its implied that most people have rigs, just that they have basic bitch ones for like e-mails and cyber module upgrades. Otherwise they have a lot of upgrade consoles around that nobody can use Tommy's wording was "she's been acting strangely since we've come on board [the escape pod]", which is a little ambiguous about the timing. Was it from the instant they got on the pod, or at some point since they did? The latter would fit right in with Shodan's reality-warping being the cause. But that is a good point and I guess it could indicate that Shodan somehow got her hooks into Rebecca even before the reality-warping part. Basing that on a kind of throwaway line from much earlier in the game about finding a "military grade implant" that she didn't seem to know what to do with - and may or may not have kept with her - still seems tenuous to me, though. Obviously things start getting pretty fuzzy and weird around the reality-warping part, though. Basically anything could happen, like I was saying earlier - even things conveniently going back to (apparently) normal after Shodan is (apparently) "killed".
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