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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
probably so - he's clearly a dude who read too much sci-fi as a kid and internalized that entire "technology = progress" mindset, and that the most important people in society are the people who invent things

except, nothing about express tunnels is a new idea in any way, it's all decades old technology with decades old obstacles to implementation (tunneling is expensive, tunnels are dangerous, you don't need to go really fast if you're not going very far). musk is enthralled with his dipshit idea though because he thinks it is original content do not steal, and because it will solve problems like traffic congestion (it wont). when you're that rich and egotistical though you can ignore every critique about how bad your idea is and just forge ahead anyway, high on the narrative that critics are just jealous and need to be humbled by the bold actions of a wild haired genius

the whole hyperloop or vacuum train makes sense in the context of a theoretical martian colony at a high stage of development. but that's decades away, if ever. musk is trying to jam the same concepts into urban mass transit where they are wildly inappropriate for the task at hand, so he's going to fail over and over because he's too focused on the fantasy of success to overcome the real obstacles in the way

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Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
Vegas also built a monorail on the strip, although it doesn't go to the airport. It isn't used much because the casinos hide the stations, they obviously don't want people to leave. If you aren't familiar with it in ends up being a big search for the monorail station, followed by a brief ride, then a 10 minute walk from the monorail station to wherever you actually want to go. They didn't even bother to build a station at the new NFL stadium.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Groovelord Neato posted:

Kobe Bryant figured out a workaround.

He wanted to get to Heaven before the surge pricing hit.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Family Values posted:

He probably read The Roads Must Roll or some other sci fi about tunnels and wants to make it real. I think that's where all of his inspiration comes from and he's not even subtle about it (naming various things after The Culture ships, plaid mode, etc. etc.)

his consistent praise for the Culture series baffled me until I had the notion that he knows, at least subconsciously, that in a perfect society he would have a slap drone on him

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Platystemon posted:

He wanted to get to Hell before the crowds got there.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I know he’s a rapist.

That’s why it was an attempt.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

Peanut Butler posted:

his consistent praise for the Culture series baffled me until I had the notion that he knows, at least subconsciously, that in a perfect society he would have a slap drone on him

Perhaps he likes the idea of humanity being ruled by super-intelligent BDFLs?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/16/spacex-biggest-challenge/?arc404=true

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
iPod submarine but in space

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Peanut Butler posted:

his consistent praise for the Culture series baffled me until I had the notion that he knows, at least subconsciously, that in a perfect society he would have a slap drone on him

It's because the Culture is sort of a libertarian paradise. You can do almost whatever you want and you're given the tools to do it.

Except the sort of people who live in the Culture are usually not sociopathic capitalists.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Elon Musk completely missing every single point The Culture series makes is hilarious to me, a person who may have read a book or two.

It's like that cyberpunk.png. The series is primarily about humans and societies. The technology is never explained in detail, it exists merely as a springboard for stories. Banks had nothing but contempt for people like Musk. How you can read the series and think "I should emulate Veppers" is beyond me.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Antigravitas posted:

Elon Musk completely missing every single point The Culture series makes is hilarious to me, a person who may have read a book or two.

It's like that cyberpunk.png. The series is primarily about humans and societies. The technology is never explained in detail, it exists merely as a springboard for stories. Banks had nothing but contempt for people like Musk. How you can read the series and think "I should emulate Veppers" is beyond me.

Apropos

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I don't really follow twitter dipshittery, but now I have to know…why did the moron post a red rose there? I'm guessing he's not an advocate of social democracy, so…

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Antigravitas posted:

I don't really follow twitter dipshittery, but now I have to know…why did the moron post a red rose there? I'm guessing he's not an advocate of social democracy, so…

Roses are ___

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Elon Musk once claimed to be a socialist and well...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1008013111058526209?lang=en

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011
My understanding of Musk's sense of the world is that he's a genuine utopian socialist in the sense that he wants to get to the post-scarcity end of history like in Star Trek and all his other favorite sci-fi stories. He's a socialist in the way that people used the term before Marx and Engels started writing, and he sees his role in history as a pioneering inventor who gets us one step closer to the Holodeck.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Civilized Fishbot posted:

My understanding of Musk's sense of the world is that he's a genuine utopian socialist in the sense that he wants to get to the post-scarcity end of history like in Star Trek and all his other favorite sci-fi stories. He's a socialist in the way that people used the term before Marx and Engels started writing, and he sees his role in history as a pioneering inventor who gets us one step closer to the Holodeck.

he may like the future idea of post-scarcity luxury, but he still forces the employees in his factories back to work during a pandemic and engages in strident union busting. a lot of tech guys idolize the future version of luxury space communism, someday, but if the steps necessary to get there cost them money then they shut down hard. future socialists can't be contemporary capitalists, that's just showing up for your board meetings in a che shirt. he's trying to put a barrier between his ideals and the actual consequences of his actions. it's all a lie, and he's even lying to himself when he tries to reconcile these oppositional aspects of his political identity

e: it's my experience that this sort of "i love the IDEA of socialism, but..." kind of thinking is really common among tech bros. it's kind of necessary when you like to hang out with burners and at festivals and stuff where you at least have to pay token deference to the idea of equality and social justice. but underneath the tyedie and beads lies someone who is one bad encounter with an unhomed person away from going full throated social darwinist

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 01:12 on May 18, 2020

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

I saw this earlier but I missed that it was Lilly Wachowski. Good for her!

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/hels/status/1262215846006571008

:discourse:

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007


The link doesn't show in the tweet preview, but it's absolutely worth the read:
https://themargins.substack.com/p/doordash-and-pizza-arbitrage

:discourse: indeed!

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Civilized Fishbot posted:

My understanding of Musk's sense of the world is that he's a genuine utopian socialist in the sense that he wants to get to the post-scarcity end of history like in Star Trek and all his other favorite sci-fi stories. He's a socialist in the way that people used the term before Marx and Engels started writing, and he sees his role in history as a pioneering inventor who gets us one step closer to the Holodeck.

Remember when he said he was a socialist in the vein of Iain Bank's Culture series? Musk looked at that, saw how technology could enable a (kinda, sorta) socialist society, and decided that because he likes technology, that means he's a socialist! There's no deeper analysis here. He doesn't see this as "well, this is the small part of the utopia I can help build." He literally believes that if he builds the technology, we will be the Culture (and that that will be a good thing.)

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
is that the same app that got caught doing other poo poo?


oh no that was grubhub hijacking the phone numbers, jfc why doesnt the food NRA wave their dick around and gently caress these techbros, like NRA still bad, but gently caress techbros.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Karia posted:

Remember when he said he was a socialist in the vein of Iain Bank's Culture series? Musk looked at that, saw how technology could enable a (kinda, sorta) socialist society, and decided that because he likes technology, that means he's a socialist! There's no deeper analysis here. He doesn't see this as "well, this is the small part of the utopia I can help build." He literally believes that if he builds the technology, we will be the Culture (and that that will be a good thing.)

The smartest thing Banks’ did was start the Culture series with the POV of someone who loving hates the Culture so every subsequent boom you’re like “oh this is fun....wait a loving second here”

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Antigravitas posted:

Banks had nothing but contempt for people like Musk. How you can read the series and think "I should emulate Veppers" is beyond me.

Musk would want to be Idiran, definitely.

A race who genetically engineered their slaves species to feel constant terror and pain.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I think you are confusing the Idirans with the Affront. The Idirans don't care about lesser creatures, the Affront are just a good ol' boys club who play ping pong with sentient ping pong balls bred specifically for that game, among other fun things to own the culture libs.

Banks wasn't exactly subtle, I think.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
My bad. I went looking for them and the Idiran War was the first thing which popped up.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Uber cuts 3000 jobs

quote:

As millions of people worldwide stay home during the coronavirus pandemic, Uber is cutting 3,000 more jobs, it said Monday. Along with the 3,700 positions it cut two weeks ago, the San Francisco ride-hailing company is laying off 25% of its staff.

Uber also is closing some 40 offices — including its Pier 70 office in San Francisco, which worked on self-driving technology. That will be consolidated with its forthcoming Mission Bay headquarters next to Chase Center, Uber said. It also will move its Asian headquarters out of Singapore to an unspecified new location.

All told, Monday’s actions will reduce Uber’s costs by over $1 billion a year, the company said.

The company is reconsidering non-core business units such as its freight service, which arranges big-rig trucks loads, and self-driving technology, according to the Wall Street Journal which first reported the news. Uber said it will close its AI Labs and look at new options for Uber Works, which connected gig workers to jobs.
Mother of Mercy... could this be the end of Uber? (If you prefer: Top of the Mark, Ma!)

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
it was inevitable they'd kill off the freight and self driving projects, this may be just a convenient time to give up on those bad ideas without having to admit they were bad

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Last week they were trying to make an all-stock offer for GrubHub. I think they're getting desperate to head off the inevitable.\

e: https://twitter.com/aaronjschaffer/status/1262433878544957444

Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 18:27 on May 18, 2020

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

quote:

All told, Monday’s actions will reduce Uber’s costs by over $1 billion a year, the company said.

Somehow that still wouldn't be enough to make the company profitable! :psyduck:

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Im surprised Uber has any employees, I thought everyone was a "contractor" amd that extended to the lovely web bros coding the app

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
uber has to have salaried employees, how else could they justify setting up segregated bathrooms for the full timers and the contractors?

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

luxury handset posted:

uber has to have salaried employees, how else could they justify setting up segregated bathrooms for the full timers and the contractors?

Holy poo poo

Boot and Rally
Apr 21, 2006

8===D
Nap Ghost
Not to revive an old post to be an rear end in a top hat or anything, but I just came across numbers for this:

evilweasel posted:

Grub hub is profitable because it’s just a middleman and doesn’t deliver food itself.

I was just digging through articles and found that Grubhub operated at a loss last year. You do seem to follow financial stuff more closely than I, so I am fully prepared to be reading this incorrectly.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Just loving Extend the Monorail ... you wankers.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Konstantin posted:

Vegas also built a monorail on the strip, although it doesn't go to the airport. It isn't used much because the casinos hide the stations, they obviously don't want people to leave. If you aren't familiar with it in ends up being a big search for the monorail station, followed by a brief ride, then a 10 minute walk from the monorail station to wherever you actually want to go. They didn't even bother to build a station at the new NFL stadium.

Vegas politics is as corrupt as hell, local taxi companies blocked the extension to the airport. Also, it seems, pressured the casinos to do as you say.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Boot and Rally posted:

Not to revive an old post to be an rear end in a top hat or anything, but I just came across numbers for this:


I was just digging through articles and found that Grubhub operated at a loss last year. You do seem to follow financial stuff more closely than I, so I am fully prepared to be reading this incorrectly.
I think GrubHub used to be just a middleman, but now are trying to be more like UberEats/DoorDash?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Last week they were trying to make an all-stock offer for GrubHub. I think they're getting desperate to head off the inevitable.\

e: https://twitter.com/aaronjschaffer/status/1262433878544957444

So we’re not going to see profits for at least two thousand years. Got it.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Platystemon posted:

So we’re not going to see profits for at least two thousand years. Got it.
Oh ye of little faith
https://twitter.com/badecontakes/status/1262465781599580160?s=21

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Boot and Rally
Apr 21, 2006

8===D
Nap Ghost

Cicero posted:

I think GrubHub used to be just a middleman, but now are trying to be more like UberEats/DoorDash?

Now that I am reading through it, they did make money in 2018. The ratio of revenue to operations and also sales costs is going down, which I guess is good. All of their income appears to be eaten up by Technology (exclusive of amortization), General and administrative, Depreciation and amortization. I dunno how General and administrative is different from "Operations and support".

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