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D-Pad posted:
Looking at that cover and all I can see is Magnus sporting a fabulous man purse about to sprinkle some glitter
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He does acknowledge in the postscript to Sons of the Selenar that it would be tempting to have a happily ever after for his characters but it doesn't fit with what needs to happen. D-Pad posted:Read Rites of Passage next! So good. Already read it and it was part of why I picked up Road to Redemption. I liked how Mike continues to show representation with a non-hetero protagonist and nonbinary supporting character in RtR.
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After seeing recommendations I decided to read Fire Caste, my first Fehervari novel, and it’s possibly my favorite of the dozens of 40k books I’ve read. Definitely an Imperial Guard-focused book. It was maybe a little self-indulgent when one of the characters actually utters the words “heart of darkness” but hell, the author earned it.
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Jun 10, 2020 21:25
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I cannot get over how good the Siege Of Terra maps/illustrations are. I'm sure none of these are new to the people ITT but these are the highest-res versions I've found.   
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Jun 10, 2020 21:35
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I always wondered why the traitors had to take the space port instead of landing wherever they wanted, but I guess the palace is so built up that there's nowhere else to land.
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Jun 10, 2020 23:15
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SardonicTyrant posted:I always wondered why the traitors had to take the space port instead of landing wherever they wanted, but I guess the palace is so built up that there's nowhere else to land. The drawings don’t really do justice to the scale. It’s supposed to be continent spanning. Meaning even if the traitors landed in the palace they may still be 500km away from where they want to be. The spaceport is relatively at the front door so to speak
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Jun 10, 2020 23:22
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Noblesse Obliged posted:The drawings don’t really do justice to the scale. It’s supposed to be continent spanning. Subcontinent. India is the suburbs. The Himalayas are the palace. Yes, all of them.
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Jun 10, 2020 23:30
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And you can't land your largest ships on the world itself, their born in the void and will die in the void. So with your larger ships stuck in space you end up having to send down smaller ships to make planetfall. But with the Lionsgate, again the scale is not done any justice, even the Vengeful spirit can dock and pump out traitors like a funnel right to the front door.
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Jun 10, 2020 23:37
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VanSandman posted:Subcontinent. India is the suburbs. The Himalayas are the palace.
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Arquinsiel posted:It used to be that the palace was Great Britain, now a huge mountain after the seas boiled away. Oh well. That's infinitely lamer than the Himalayas.
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Jun 11, 2020 01:55
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Arquinsiel posted:It used to be that the palace was Great Britain, now a huge mountain after the seas boiled away. Oh well. The enemy shall break themselves upon the eternal walls of....chalk?
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Jun 11, 2020 02:06
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Arquinsiel posted:It used to be that the palace was Great Britain, now a huge mountain after the seas boiled away. Oh well. Now the area that would be the UK is just a giant prison
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Jun 11, 2020 02:56
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Not all changes are bad.
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VanSandman posted:Subcontinent. India is the suburbs. The Himalayas are the palace. It's mentioned many different times throughout the lore it is continent size. It's never been described in the best detail, but the best, most recent we have is from the Custodes codex: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/c1zzxs/the_xinjiang_province_future_home_to_the_emperor That does move things around a bit from what some lore has said, but overall the size matches what the lore has described for a while now.
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Jun 11, 2020 03:32
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D-Pad posted:It's mentioned many different times throughout the lore it is continent size. It's never been described in the best detail, but the best, most recent we have is from the Custodes codex: thats not as big as i assumed it would be. i always assumed the whole palace complex was like most of mainland asia.
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Biplane posted:That's infinitely lamer than the Himalayas. At least we brits still have ork-speak, right? Right? ROIGHT?!
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thats not as big as i assumed it would be. i always assumed the whole palace complex was like most of mainland asia. That'd be ridiculous.
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Jun 11, 2020 08:56
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MariusLecter posted:That'd be ridiculous. It's 40k. Everything is ridiculous.
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Jun 11, 2020 09:59
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The scale and logistics in 40k have always been poo poo.
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Jun 11, 2020 10:03
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Regiments of 2000 guys totally makes sense in a planetary invasion context, don't worry about it.
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Angry Lobster posted:The scale and logistics in 40k have always been poo poo. It's heroic scale logistics
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Jun 11, 2020 15:26
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The answer to "how does this work" in 40K is "in the most over the top, wasteful and horrible way possible", anything more and you're talking about midichlorians
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Jun 11, 2020 15:41
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's heroic scale logistics lol
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Biplane posted:Regiments of 2000 guys totally makes sense in a planetary invasion context, don't worry about it. 40k planets are also subject to a level of political centralization completely incomprehensible to the lived experience of the modern world. If the world is literally a single factory with a single control point then, yeah: landing a couple thousand guys (or a couple dozen Spess Mehreens) right there might do it. Of course, it's left as an exercise for the reader to figure out why such a form of industrial organization would be undertaken, or why such a control point wouldn't be, like, underground and impossible to reach. E: Although, having tried more than once to read "hard sf" interpretations of futuretech military action I'll take Trafalgar-IIINNNN-SPPPAAACCEE/Sharpe's Las-Rifles 100% of the time. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Jun 11, 2020 15:59
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Schadenboner posted:Of course, it's left as an exercise for the reader to figure out why such a form of industrial organization would be undertaken, or why such a control point wouldn't be, like, underground and impossible to reach. The Mechanicus got hold of some archaeotek action movies around m.27 and mistook them for documentaries.
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Jun 11, 2020 16:55
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Biplane posted:Regiments of 2000 guys totally makes sense in a planetary invasion context, don't worry about it. Yeah I always think of this quote: "I have at my command an entire battle group of the Imperial Guard. Fifty regiments, including specialized drop troops, stealthers, mechanized formations, armored companies, combat engineers and mobile artillery. Over half a million fighting men and thirty thousand tanks and artillery pieces are mine to command. Emperor show mercy to the fool that stands against me, for I shall not." As if that's supposed to be impressive when wars here in our history will routinely have 1 million or more soldiers deployed to a single operation in a single front. Lot's of Sci-fi settings do that though, Battletech often has 12 mechs fighting over the fate of an entire world.
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Jun 11, 2020 17:21
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There was like three million men fighting the battle of stalingrad, just that one city.
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I figure they're using something like how when Europeans say "Million" they actually mean "French Million" which is like three or four dozen? E: It actually reminds me of Barbara Tuchman's comment that medieval numbers are used to convey a rhetorical not a mathematical meaning (when it comes to contemporary news reports, not like what Hey Guns does with pay records)? E2: Or Douglas Adam's "Space Is Big. Really, Really Big" thing? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Jun 11, 2020 18:37
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SerCypher posted:Lot's of Sci-fi settings do that though, Battletech often has 12 mechs fighting over the fate of an entire world.
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Yeah, Battletech had a "We don't exactly say it but if you read certain things and put them together a large chunk of the total human race died after the fall of the Star League" Most planets were barely habitable without League tech and the Ryan Ice Cartel flying ice asteroids about. The scale is just so much smaller than 40K.
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In the last couple of years they have flat out said it. Looking at the Amaris Coup era sourcebooks the sheer scale of units involved is mind blowing compared to "modern" ones.
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Khizan posted:It's 40k. Everything is ridiculous. 40k universe makes more sense and is more humane than current western capitalist hell states It’s amazing. 40k is not nearly as nihilist as say Donald trump
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euphronius posted:40k universe makes more sense and is more humane than current western capitalist hell states I dunno, they certainly both agree on the gold aesthetic.
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Certainly 40k Earth is more egalitarian on racial issues. Neither white, nor black; but sickly, splotchy grey where everyone is equally wretched. Galvanik fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Jun 12, 2020 04:31
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euphronius posted:40k universe makes more sense and is more humane than current western capitalist hell states goons.txt
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Biplane posted:Regiments of 2000 guys totally makes sense in a planetary invasion context, don't worry about it. Even the better writers do this, I was rereading a Ravenor book the other day and I got to a point where something very bad happens to a whole hive city, the next line is "Thousands died."
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The earlier Ghost books are pretty bad with it, like I mentally edit in a few zeroes at the end of nearly every number on rereads.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Even the better writers do this, I was rereading a Ravenor book the other day and I got to a point where something very bad happens to a whole hive city, the next line is "Thousands died." Hundreds of thousands is still thousands.
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Jun 12, 2020 12:13
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This scene should be more like Billions. I mean he could have said "Dozens died", and that would be technically correct too, but still jarring.
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Multiple deaths occurred - the technically correct description.
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