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JFK is unlike the other 3 but ok, I see your point. We are bad people, I don't and won't consider Trump as a President, Obama then Biden is what I'll see. He is a bad man and I almost voted for him because I thought the way he talked was funny.
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one weird side effect is animation is going to be huge since live action production is still not really happening. so we just got new clone high and beavis and butthead announcements. get ready for every animated show to return
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Jul 3, 2020 04:03
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zer0spunk posted:one weird side effect is animation is going to be huge since live action production is still not really happening. This doesn't even make sense though. Live action production is safer than animation, covid wise. At least with live action everyone is on a set with some space between each other. Animation is a bunch of people stuffed in a small, sweaty room breathing on each other.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This doesn't even make sense though. Live action production is safer than animation, covid wise. At least with live action everyone is on a set with some space between each other. Animation is a bunch of people stuffed in a small, sweaty room breathing on each other. It's 100% not. You're on top of each other constantly, especially on location. Equipment is shared. There's a reason you're not seeing film production in the US right now, from insurance not backing anything to the actors union throwing do not work orders on anything that even seems unsafe in the slightest. Things that have tried have been shut down quickly, so I would guess that'll just keep happening to anything that attempts it regardless https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-production-paused-coronavirus-tests-1234640886/ I can't speak to animation because I work in film, but I would imagine it's a whole lot easier to accomplish remote work with way less people required to interact in the same space..and the orders coming in for it kinda mirror that. e: I can show you the safety guidelines pdf that was published a week or two ago jointly by all the unions involved in the film/tv industry called "the safe way" forward and it's..not going to work. If production resumes people will get sick/die and they'll be shut down again anyway. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/bold-beautiful-switches-covid-testing-labs-false-positives-1299995 zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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I had this thought the other day about the corona testing. The government would like to have access to people's DNA; it makes it easier to solve crimes and stuff. https://www.aclu.org/blog/privacy-technology/medical-and-genetic-privacy/dexter-dna-and-your-privacy I wonder if they're using the covid tests to just go ahead and opportunistically grab people's double helixes, because how could you pass that up? It's so convenient, and generally people need the tests to get treated in a hospital, or at least they're going to receive one or more while they're being treated. Could be!
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zer0spunk posted:It's 100% not. I can speak to animation, and film, as I've worked in both, and you have infinitely more room on a film set. Animation can't be done remotely except on extremely small projects. Not to mention most inbetweening work is still done in China/Japan, and those places are literal animation sweatshops with everyone working inside each others butts.
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zer0spunk posted:i like this derail cuz it's a good buy lmao. i haven't found it to do that oddly enough, maybe the poo poo that its mixed with at this point prevents it, who knows. i leave it in a glass jar overnight with no top usually, then funnel it back into the bottle. usually lose a tiny bit in that transfer, but it's still like 3/4th of a bottle that's lasted over a year. it's good stuff, op No doubt that stuff is awesome, but an overnight soak in iso is good enough 99% of the time. Just be sure to wash with water after. And, to move this back on topic, a recent study found that  keeps you safe from the rona: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-two-researchers-hope-to-use-cannabis-to-temporarily-close-the-doors-on-coronavirus-181015918.htmlI realize that this is just one study, but if it's true, time to buy those dispensary stocks.
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What part of animation actually needs everyone to be crammed into the same room, instead of just "the boss wants everyone crammed into the same room so they can be peering over everyone's shoulder at once"?
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I can speak to animation, and film, as I've worked in both, and you have infinitely more room on a film set. Animation can't be done remotely except on extremely small projects. Not to mention most inbetweening work is still done in China/Japan, and those places are literal animation sweatshops with everyone working inside each others butts. Ok, I'm telling you as someone that has 15 years in the film industry, or did anyway until march shut us all down, production and social distancing is a joke. If you want i can start posting set pictures where dozens of people are jammed together. How does a steadi cam op work from a 6 ft distance? You're tripping if you think film production is safe and the unions agree, thats why it ain't happening.
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Jul 3, 2020 04:36
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zer0spunk posted:Ok, I'm telling you as someone that has 15 years in the film industry, or did anyway until march shut us all down, production and social distancing is a joke. If you want i can start posting set pictures where dozens of people are jammed together. How does a steadi cam op work from a 6 ft distance? I didn't say it was safe, I said it didn't make sense that animation would take the place of live-action production because it was perceived as safer.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I didn't say it was safe, I said it didn't make sense that animation would take the place of live-action production because it was perceived as safer. I mean think about it, actors can't have masks and are required to be within 6 ft of each other in scenes. You're also seeing more and more animation orders because it's less risky and easier to produce. Clearly, whatever production methods they are using they are able to compartmentalize. https://deadline.com/2020/06/sony-pictures-animation-kristine-belson-covid-19-r-rated-movies-1202969612/ quote:Belson said the past few months have gone “surprisingly well” as her group has made the transition to remote work and coped with the limitations of COVID-19. Unlike live-action production, which depends on a number of crew members and locations, animation work has been able to continue, albeit in a very different way. dont know why you're surprised it's easier to modify animation to continue to pump out content then it is live action, so that's exactly what you'll see hate to tell you, you're going to get way more shoot at home style shows like all the stuff TBS announced. celebrity home joke off or whatever. and you'll get way more game shows because they are..and i quote *shudder* a pool of rotating talent. Doesn't matter if your talent gets sick, bring in the next contestant. I wish I were joking (trying to find the trade article about the upfronts I read that lovely quote in) zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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You know how Toy Story was saved because one of the workers was on maternity leave and had a nearly complete duplicate of the assets so she could work at home? Yeah, so WFH animation has only gotten more practical since then.
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Just write your drama around covid. Bingo masks for everyone.
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Platystemon posted:You know how Toy Story was saved because one of the workers was on maternity leave and had a nearly complete duplicate of the assets so she could work at home? This is dumb and no studio would do this in 2020. 1 losing all your data 2 having some rando have a copy of near everything at home.
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zer0spunk posted:I mean think about it, actors can't have masks and are required to be within 6 ft of each other in scenes. The story though seems to forget the bulk of animation work which is done in asia. It's all fine and good if the north american primaries are working from home, doing keyframes and storyboarding. Then they offload inbetweening to asia, where studios range from compact, to literal sweatshops. There's a reason Simpsons poked fun at this fact. 
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:The story though seems to forget the bulk of animation work which is done in asia. It's all fine and good if the north american primaries are working from home, doing keyframes and storyboarding. Then they offload inbetweening to asia, where studios range from compact, to literal sweatshops. yeah about that banksy simpsons gag http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2027768,00.html quote:But when a California-based production studio asked Shin to animate a dark commentary about labor practices in Asia's cartoon industry — the edgy title sequence for the The Simpsons' episode "MoneyBART" — he and his staff raised a rare protest. The sequence, created by Banksy, the pseudonym for an unidentified British graffiti artist known for his anti-Establishment pranks, ran during the opening credits — a regular slot known to Simpsons fans as the "couch gag" because it's a joke thrown in as the Simpsons family is seen gathering on the couch at the start of each episode. It depicted a dungeon-like complex where droning Asian animators worked in sweatshops, rats scurried around with human bones, kittens were spliced up into Bart Simpson dolls, and a gaunt unicorn punched holes into DVDs.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This doesn't even make sense though. Live action production is safer than animation, covid wise. At least with live action everyone is on a set with some space between each other. Animation is a bunch of people stuffed in a small, sweaty room breathing on each other. The animation will almost certainly be produced in China or Japan. Or any country with a competent Covid-19 response. Voice acting can be done remotely.
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zer0spunk posted:yeah about that banksy simpsons gag Yes, I knew about the complaint. People complained because there are good animation studios in asia. There are also very, very bad ones.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Yes, I knew about the complaint. People complained because there are good animation studios in asia. You started out spouting off about it being impossible to do animation with social distancing so I don't even know what you're trying to get at at this point.
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big cummers ONLY posted:My bowl really needs a good clean in some rubbing alcohol and sea salt, but I'm making the sacrifice of not buying the stuff because people need it for better reasons right now use acetone
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Michael Corleone posted:JFK is unlike the other 3 but ok, I see your point. We are bad people, I don't and won't consider Trump as a President, Obama then Biden is what I'll see. He is a bad man and I almost voted for him because I thought the way he talked was funny. JFK was going to close down the CIA. The CIA runs rampant around the world overthrowing democracies among all the other poo poo they get up to. Also, that seminal moment is when the US really started to split. LBJ escalating in Vietnam which led to the fracturing of the country. The US, I mean.
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Shaocaholica posted:Just write your drama around covid. Bingo masks for everyone. you joke but i think the vibe is no one wants to see covid poo poo in the shows they use as escapism from covid poo poo. plus then it dates your show if you go with topical stories all of a sudden in a show that isn't a procedural or something. honestly i'd take masks in dramas over zoom reunion specials  e: i think the blacklist ended up animating the parts of the episodes they hadn't finished filming during the march shutdown and released that as a season finale. if i cared more about james spader related news i'd link it
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Waltzing Along posted:JFK was going to close down the CIA. The CIA runs rampant around the world overthrowing democracies among all the other poo poo they get up to. Also, that seminal moment is when the US really started to split. LBJ escalating in Vietnam which led to the fracturing of the country. The US, I mean. Also JFK was going to put the US back on the gold standard, which would have made the Powers That Be a wee bit unhappy.
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Waltzing Along posted:Just going to point out to non-americans and those not in the know: this was all done to the US people and the world OUTSIDE of us being able to vote. Corporations being people? That wasn't put to a vote. Kennedy getting shot by the CIA? No vote for that either. War on drugs? We didn't vote for that. Politicizing abortion and turning the republican party insane? Again, no vote. Who do you think voted for the politicians who appointed and confirmed the judges that made corporations people? It's not like that came out of nowhere, it was openly the republican platform that plenty of people voted for. Same thing with the war on drugs, except bipartisan. Politicians kept getting "tough on drugs" because it got them votes from scared suburbanites. We can keep going with abortion. It was politicized by evangelicals trying to build a voting block, and only continues to be an issue because a significant number of people vote based on performative pro-life christianity. The republican party is insane because its constituency is insane, not the other way around. Sure, there's a feedback loop going on there, but the rancid bigotry and selfishness was there all along.
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Nixon started the war on drugs out of his rear end because he wanted a way to fight against protesters. It wasn't part of his platform when running for office. E: also, there is a big difference between voting for someone who says they are going to do something and voting for someone who then does something that they didn't say they were going to do. ie: war on drugs, corporations.
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Jul 3, 2020 05:12
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The Racist party became that way explicitly because they saw an opportunity to win an election by throwing out all their pre-existing moral principles and instead pandering to the already existing racism in America. That was explicitly the point of the Southern Strategy.
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Waltzing Along posted:Nixon started the war on drugs out of his rear end because he wanted a way to fight against protesters. It wasn't part of his platform when running for office. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2000-republican-party-platform quote:Preserve the right of every individual and all groups — whether for us or against us — to express their opinions and advocate their issues. We will not allow any arm of government to restrict this constitutionally guaranteed right. quote:On September 5, two days after the death of Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Bush renominated Roberts as the 17th Chief Justice of the United States. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 29, 2005. quote:KENNEDY, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS, C. J., and SCALIA and ALITO, JJ., joined, in which THOMAS, J., joined as to all but Part IV, and in which STEVENS, GINSBURG, BREYER, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined as to Part IV. ROBERTS, C. J., filed a concurring opinion, in which ALITO, J., joined. SCALIA, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which ALITO, J., joined, and in which THOMAS, J., joined in part. STEVENS, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part, in which GINSBURG, BREYER, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined. THOMAS, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part.
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Thanks for the 3 links that have nothing to do with the start of the war on drugs or corporations being given personhood status in the early 20th century. At this point it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Good bye.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:everyone working inside each others butts. where do I sign up
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Waltzing Along posted:Thanks for the 3 links that have nothing to do with the start of the war on drugs or corporations being given personhood status in the early 20th century. At this point it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Good bye. The party whose platform lays out the basis for citizens united then wins the election (granted, tenuously in 2000). They appoint justices who share this world view, who are then duly confirmed by elected senators. These justices then go on to form a major part of the decision that cemented corporate personhood. It's a simple chain of events, and it's one that came as a direct result of voters' decisions. Yes, it goes back further than that, but it has always been out in the open and large swaths of voters just don't care or actively vote for the party supporting this position. And sure, Nixon started the war on drugs, then Reagan (who actually did far more to ramp up the criminalization of drugs than Nixon ever did) campaigned on expanding it and won large majorities. The war on drugs was a hugely popular position for most of the late 20th century, the idea it was done behind the back of the electorate is laughable. None of this has anything to do with coronavirus anymore though, so nevermind. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kpcYbIFkgk This guy sounds like an idiot, but I’m not a doctor
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loving hell it's just not slowing down
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:loving hell it's just not slowing down Gee I wonder why?
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At this rate when will we hit 99%? Hopefully it’s at least 2 weeks before the election.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This doesn't even make sense though. Live action production is safer than animation, covid wise. At least with live action everyone is on a set with some space between each other. Animation is a bunch of people stuffed in a small, sweaty room breathing on each other. I'm not quite animation, I've worked in VFX for 15+ years. But I've seen plenty of anim shops. You must've been in some godawful ones. We're all quite happily working from home, I'm sure the set up is much the same for the major animation studios, and when we do come back social distancing will be quite simple. Working on set may not be quite as bad as that other dude is making out, but I can certainly see animation picking up some slack, especially as it seems like this is going on for the rest of the year in america now.
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Despite your hopes, the COVID isn't going to usher in the age of anime, neither fate nor god is that cruel.
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https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1278884723427770373 Every single news person who doesn't immediately counter-balance this by mentioning how trump (with the help of covid19) made 36 000 000 americans unemployed needs to set themselves on fire and walk off a cliff.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:loving hell it's just not slowing down The numbers are going to keep going up up up until they fly off into space and disappear, you'll see!
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