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HardDiskD posted:Is that supposed to be a breaker box?
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HardDiskD posted:Is that supposed to be a breaker box? As is, it's a junction box without the box where every loving single neutral is shared. Also, check out the drywall underneath and the screw holes in the studs. This abomination was buried in the wall.
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Jul 24, 2020 04:31
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I need answers. The twitter replies were of no help (although I did like the one that said it was an eruv).
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Jul 24, 2020 04:53
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kid sinister posted:As is, it's a junction box without the box where every loving single neutral is shared. Also, check out the drywall underneath and the screw holes in the studs. This abomination was buried in the wall. The only thing that's actually correct in that entire thing is the bonding on the neutral bar. It's even a real neutral bar. What are you talking about here?
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Jul 24, 2020 05:10
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Motronic posted:The only thing that's actually correct in that entire thing is the bonding on the neutral bar. It's even a real neutral bar. What are you talking about here? It's a real neutral bar but not where you would ever want one, even if it were in a junction box - shared neutrals cause all sorts of problems with AFCIs that weren't designed for it and will instantly trip GFCI and DFCI/combo breakers.
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Jul 24, 2020 05:17
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:I need answers. The twitter replies were of no help (although I did like the one that said it was an eruv). The audio doesn't help, it's just a description of where the cables are. Maybe Nahlaot?
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Jul 24, 2020 05:24
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Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:Houses are insured. Are panels? Oh I get it now. Insurance fraud. You'd think they'd pick something less obvious, like backstabs.
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Jul 24, 2020 05:27
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Motronic posted:The only thing that's actually correct in that entire thing is the bonding on the neutral bar. It's even a real neutral bar. What are you talking about here? Technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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Jul 24, 2020 05:32
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WrenP-Complete posted:The audio doesn't help, it's just a description of where the cables are. Maybe Nahlaot? Probably one of the less gentrified housing projects in Nachlaot, yeah. Google street view shows some interesting wiring jobs and additions around there and that's just on the street-facing sides.
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Jul 24, 2020 06:35
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 Based on tweets about this monstrosity, the owners designed it themselves, and it's probably within 20 miles of my house.
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Jul 24, 2020 07:26
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TheMadMilkman posted:
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Jul 24, 2020 10:16
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you could use this house as a movie backdrop for three different location around the U.S.
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Jul 24, 2020 10:29
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By popular demand posted:you could use this house as a movie backdrop for three different location around the U.S. But what if it was the movie! 
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Jul 24, 2020 10:40
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Finally a suitable substitute to Doom House!
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Jul 24, 2020 10:45
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Warmachine posted:Oh I get it now. Insurance fraud. Backstabs aren’t inherently bad though right? Just annoying and dumb.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:43
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The Dave posted:Backstabs aren’t inherently bad though right? Just annoying and dumb. They're pretty bad. Anyone that's replaced enough backstabbed outlets has seen at least one of those connections go bad and melt some insulation or the plastic on the outlet itself.
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Jul 24, 2020 12:51
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TheMadMilkman posted:
A house stitched together from the corpses of three other houses, then animated by the spirit of bad architecture.
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Jul 24, 2020 13:26
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What style house should we build? ALL OF THEM.
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Jul 24, 2020 13:41
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Warmachine posted:Looks like I was halfway there then: my first thought was that the railing needed to be anchored to the side of the house. What I was fishing for was a discussion on proper railing design because it isn't something I've ever had to interact with but seems like something I should know. Here's a picture of a properly built one:  D-LINK posted:Like, the person who built that railing in the picture is functionally using side-attached balusters as the structural support for the handrail. This means somewhere in the vicinity of 32 screws and/or nails are the actual support system since those balusters are attached on the outside of the steps. This is a very weak design. Balusters are not just decorative, they serve a function. They are meant to stop anyone (mainly children) from slipping through the side.
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Jul 24, 2020 14:32
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Rexxed posted:But what if it was the movie! 
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Jul 24, 2020 15:05
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TheMadMilkman posted:
Winchester Mystery House 2.0
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Jul 24, 2020 15:11
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brugroffil posted:Here's a picture of a properly built one: Which is why kids are notorious for getting their heads stuck in between the balusters. They're usually just narrow enough that a small child can't squeeze their whole body between them, but not so narrow that they can't get their head through.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:19
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tinytort posted:Which is why kids are notorious for getting their heads stuck in between the balusters. They're usually just narrow enough that a small child can't squeeze their whole body between them, but not so narrow that they can't get their head through. That is why code is 4" spacing maximum! Any mobile baby's head will be bigger than that.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:34
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brugroffil posted:That is why code is 4" spacing maximum! Any mobile baby's head will be bigger than that. That's the code now, anyway. Lots of older railings out there are wider.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:42
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I narc'd out a guy down the street doing an unpermitted addition with really lovely construction (3.5" wide stem wall  ). I'm exploring my feelings currently, between feeling like an overbearing nosy neighbor but also the professional obligation for HSW protection. The tipping point was when I googled the owner and they came up with a conviction for bike theft. I loving hate bike thieves, and knowing that that bike theft will end up costing them thousands in permit and contractor fees is assuaging my conscience somewhat.
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Jul 24, 2020 19:58
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Sloppy posted:I narc'd out a guy down the street doing an unpermitted addition with really lovely construction (3.5" wide stem wall If he’s a bike thief he’s lucky you didn’t wait till he finished the building work, firebombed it, waited till he got it rebuilt illegally again, then reported him.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:45
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brugroffil posted:Here's a picture of a properly built one: Yes, that's true. It's also true that in some railing configurations, balusters are integral, and so part of the structural support. I was just explaining why the railing in the op was bad construction, as simply as possible, to the guy who asked
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Jul 24, 2020 21:44
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My friend almost got squished.   The screws extend about 3/4” lol and the cabinets according to the land lady were definitely in the studs.
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Jul 24, 2020 21:47
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cowofwar posted:My friend almost got squished. I hate that cheap cabinetry with only the top and bottom nail strips, which are about as likely to fail as the short screws which did. For those playing at home always use a wafer or pan head screw that is at least 2-1/2“. That provides enough bite in the stud thru the drywall, and distributes the force at the head over a larger area. Why yes I did have a lot of conversations about what screws to use on a large contract.
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Jul 24, 2020 22:03
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Motronic posted:The only thing that's actually correct in that entire thing is the bonding on the neutral bar. It's even a real neutral bar. What are you talking about here? Check again. There's no feeder for the neutral busbar. This isn't a stand in for a breaker box, it's just a junction box. Neutrals from different phases are only allowed to be joined at the main box, otherwise it makes all kinds of interference that leads to tripping _FCIs and weird voltages. I'd be willing to bet that interference and weird voltages was how this buried mess was discovered.
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Jul 24, 2020 22:20
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Screw, hell, I used lag bolts to install my cabinets. I'm not taking chances with that poo poo.
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Jul 24, 2020 22:31
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and why not cleats anyway!?
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Jul 24, 2020 22:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiNKZWe3kw Back in high school in 2004 we used to hang out at my buddy's dad's house a lot. I expressed to him that I wanted to go back there and visit his dad. He sent me this video persuading me not to. Definitely some crappy construction near the end.
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Jul 24, 2020 22:46
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tinytort posted:Which is why kids are notorious for getting their heads stuck in between the balusters. They're usually just narrow enough that a small child can't squeeze their whole body between them, but not so narrow that they can't get their head through. I used to squeeze my head (and occasionally my whole body, depending on the gap, some of the balusters were bent) through the railing in my elementary school's front yard for fun back in the day. In retrospect it's amazing I never got stuck and also that somehow I was clever enough to only do it when none of the teachers were watching or that they simply didn't care.
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Jul 24, 2020 22:48
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StormDrain posted:I hate that cheap cabinetry with only the top and bottom nail strips  These cabinets were probably installed better than the ones in all the new build condos around here.
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Jul 24, 2020 23:34
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MrChrome posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiNKZWe3kw What is his forums name
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Jul 25, 2020 00:39
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cowofwar posted:
Oh yeah I saw that for sure. Definitely a screw failure or rather a too short of screw with like a thread in the studs at best. And if you look in the back of your cabinet to find a bugle head screw, a box of wafer heads and a half an hour would provide peace of mind to me. I still hate that design too. How much weight can press board like that really support in the first place, and then we only use a 5" strip. My next cabinets will be plywood.
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Jul 25, 2020 00:41
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MrChrome posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEiNKZWe3kw Wow, that’s...pretty sad. I’m guessing a rough divorce and then, what, alcoholism? Giving up completely, in any case. e: Based on the fridge, the divorce was a good thing, just maybe not for him.
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Jul 25, 2020 00:59
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Wasabi the J posted:and why not cleats anyway!? Mine are hung using French cleats with fasteners at the bottom of the cabinet to prevent it from being accidentally lifted off the cleat.
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