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Suzaku
Feb 15, 2012
That's full stop the best looking cape I've seen on a kit. I love the paint job and all the modding. You really killed it!

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Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
The B-25J strafer kit is finished! Great kit, but I still threw a lot of stuff at it. Tried to recreate a specific bird from the 345th BG and I'm really happy with the final product. We've all had kits that fought us at every turn (like the P-400 fighter I posted a few weeks ago, ugh), but this was the opposite. It pretty much went together as advertised, even with the PE. The only shoddy fit is the bomb-bay doors.

Reference photos:




Final product:




Full album: https://imgur.com/gallery/IZ39ify

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Nice exhaust stains. Did you freehand it with an airbrush or use oils?

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Symetrique posted:

Nice exhaust stains. Did you freehand it with an airbrush or use oils?

That was a combination of airbrushing and dry pigments, actually. Super thin tamiyas - more of an airbrushable filter than paint - first black, then desert yellow + white, then the dry pigments. I believe that is "concrete dust" pigment color.

Chuck_D fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 2, 2020

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Great plane, I love the open hatches showing tons more detail. It must be enormous at 1:32nd scale!

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




Gewehr 43 posted:

Final product:


Very nice! The B-25 is my favorite bomber followed by the B-24. Both planes just have a lot of cool character.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Nice to see Quill got some power armor.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
G43, how d'you feel overall about the stencil cutter? I keep waffling on buying a cheap one for custom stencils and vinyl decals, and remembering how much of a pain in the rear end complex detached pieces were the last time I used one.

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

That B-25 is beautiful.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
^^ Thank you. :)

grassy gnoll posted:

G43, how d'you feel overall about the stencil cutter? I keep waffling on buying a cheap one for custom stencils and vinyl decals, and remembering how much of a pain in the rear end complex detached pieces were the last time I used one.

If you're looking to take your models to the next level, it's a great investment. Painting a marking is so much more convincing than a decal.

Masks can be troublesome to learn at first, but there are some techniques that I've learned that have made working with them a lot easier. The most important is to use tape to hold the whole mask together when you pull it off the backing sheet. Place it on the model as one big mask, remove the tape, then just remove the section you want to paint. Replace the removed section to paint the next section then repeat. It really beats decals hands down, especially for larger decals that cover large areas, deep panel lines, and/or complex curves.

The shark's mouth on this P-400 was done with a mask. Decals around that shape would be just a pain in the rear end. The mask was pretty easy.


There's a limit to how tight you can cut a stencil though. If the tool goes too close to another cut, the mask material will lift and distort. Small text is difficult especially. But, for that, decals are usually better.

boba fetacheese
Dec 12, 2000
After not making a model for over 20 years I think I want to get back in and build tanks again. Been spending Covid watching Night Shift videos hyping myself up, and it looks like we are biting the bullet and buying a house in the next couple months so I'll actually have some room for dumb hobby stuff. Starting to make a shopping list for now and have:
  • Exacto and blades
  • Sprue snipper
  • Tweezers
  • Thin liquid cement
  • Black superglue
  • Sanding sticks
  • Airbrush
  • Compressor
  • Painting hood
  • Brushes
  • Paint
  • Thinner
  • Pin vise
  • Scriber
  • Tamiya epoxy and basic putty
Am I missing anything? Getting too ahead of myself? For brushes start with an 0 and then something broader and stiffer? For paints, outside of a primer and base colours per model just grab a weathering kit from Ammo and start from there?

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

Arquinsiel posted:

Depends what VF-1 you are looking at :science:. The VF-1D and VT-1 have an extra seat so they're a smidge longer. Compared to basically anything other than the aforementioned planes they're big as heck though.

You're going to make me set up a whole bunch of planes to compare sizes here. The VF11, VF19, VF anything else are all ~much~ bigger planes.

mllaneza posted:

All love to the VF-1 for starting it all, but drat the VF-25 looks good.

The VF-2 is still the one of my dreams. But Macross 2 is a bastard that nobody cares about.

Arquinsiel posted:

They've managed to literally never have a bad "hero" plane in the entire series. It's pretty impressive for something running since the early 80's. I have a bunch of kits floating around at home, but mostly old Battroid or Gerwalk mode VF-1s or Destroids painted as Battletech units. At some point space became an issue even at 1/144.

The Alpha and Beta Units. *gags*


boba fetacheese posted:

After not making a model for over 20 years I think I want to get back in and build tanks again. Been spending Covid watching Night Shift videos hyping myself up, and it looks like we are biting the bullet and buying a house in the next couple months so I'll actually have some room for dumb hobby stuff. Starting to make a shopping list for now and have:

Check out Plasmo too. Martin is fun, Plasmo is "better" I think. Also... seriously, start small. What you "need" starts to be obvious.



So, I found a 1/72 scale F-14 in my garage. Guess i'm trying something twice the size as my usual models now. 1/72 veritechs are a lot easier to find too.... (After I bought the VF-1, VF-11, VF-17, VF-19 all in 1:144..)

In my last model, I think the "killer" was bleed under masking. And airbrushes mostly solve that. :-/ I really didn't want to go there.

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




boba fetacheese posted:

After not making a model for over 20 years I think I want to get back in and build tanks again. Been spending Covid watching Night Shift videos hyping myself up, and it looks like we are biting the bullet and buying a house in the next couple months so I'll actually have some room for dumb hobby stuff. Starting to make a shopping list for now and have:
  • Exacto and blades
  • Sprue snipper
  • Tweezers
  • Thin liquid cement
  • Black superglue
  • Sanding sticks
  • Airbrush
  • Compressor
  • Painting hood
  • Brushes
  • Paint
  • Thinner
  • Pin vise
  • Scriber
  • Tamiya epoxy and basic putty
Am I missing anything? Getting too ahead of myself? For brushes start with an 0 and then something broader and stiffer? For paints, outside of a primer and base colours per model just grab a weathering kit from Ammo and start from there?

Get a Swann-Morton scalpel handle and some blades instead of the Xacto. They are far better. I'm not sure what black superglue is. I've had a bottle of Bob Smith Maxi-Cure superglue for years and it still works great. You'll also want a regulator/moisture trap for the Airbrush.

Other than that, off the top of my head, I'd say toothpicks (I tend to use flat far more often than round), washi or Tamiya tape, painters masking tape (blue or green), blu-tack, paper towels, and squirt bottles to keep your solvents in. I got something like 5000 1/2oz portion cups from and a box of 1000 cocktail straws pretty cheap from Amazon. I use them to thin paints for airbrushing and go through tons of them, so that's something to keep in mind. I also picked up a stack of small cheap disposable plastic plates I use those all the time too to hold parts of subassemblies I'm working on, paint pallets, and when I use superglue, I generally squeeze it from the bottle to the plate, then apply it to the model with a toothpick.

For brushes, I'd go with one Winsor and Newton Series 7 00 round (if you can find one in stock) and then get a cheap set of brushes off amazon to get started. You might find that's all you'll ever need, but if you find you need something more, you can buy the specific brush you need when the time comes. If you have an airbrush, I don't think you'll have much need for larger brushes unless maybe for drybrushing or blending oils. If that's the case, you'll want to go cheap because drybrushing destroys brushes.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Nerobro posted:

You're going to make me set up a whole bunch of planes to compare sizes here. The VF11, VF19, VF anything else are all ~much~ bigger planes.

The Alpha and Beta Units. *gags*
Those aren't from Macross so they don't count.

I do like the robot mode of the Alpha though, and I am slightly sad that the didn't keep using it in Battletech.

Also the VF-0 has much longer legs due to the engines in it something something handwave.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Arquinsiel posted:

Those aren't from Macross so they don't count.

I do like the robot mode of the Alpha though, and I am slightly sad that the didn't keep using it in Battletech.

Also the VF-0 has much longer legs due to the engines in it something something handwave.

I have a half built alpha kit, it's complete garbage. I loved that cartoon but apparently the mechs don't translate well to models.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




My local Chinese place delivers in plastic trays with clear plastic lids, perfect for sub-assemblies.

Long-tailed alligator clips. You'll use these to hold parts while spraying/painting. Start hoarding styrofoam to poke them into. I've seen people clip whole gunpla kits sorted by color. I work by assembly, to make it easier to find the next piece and just run water and then cleaner through between colors. My way also starts looking like a robot faster.

Toothpicks are super useful.

Maybe some black or brown acrylic ink for panel lining.

You might want a paint rack. I got a cheap, laser-cut one sized for Vallejo paints for cheap. It takes a little tape to stay together, but holds paint a treat.

Airbrush maintenance, feel free to correct me on this:

"Needle juice" or oil. In my experience, add this when you start hearing bubbling from around the trigger. A thin coat from the point to half or 2/3 of the way back will suffice.

Beeswax. Use this on the metal to metal contact areas in the nozzle and needle protector. I only just got some, but plan on re-applying it whenever I take those apart for cleaning, or when I start getting bubbling between the nozzle and body of the airbrush.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

mllaneza posted:

...

You might want a paint rack. I got a cheap, laser-cut one sized for Vallejo paints for cheap. It takes a little tape to stay together, but holds paint a treat.

...

Nail polish rack. You can find them cheaper than anything built for the hobby market.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Blue Footed Booby posted:

Nail polish rack. You can find them cheaper than anything built for the hobby market.

Seconding this. I got a couple of them for just a few bucks on Amazon.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
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Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
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No guzzoline No supplies
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Keep muzzled...

The Locator posted:

Seconding this. I got a couple of them for just a few bucks on Amazon.

poo poo, you guys are brilliant. I've been looking for something for Tamiya bottles that doesn't cost a fortune.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Blue Footed Booby posted:

Nail polish rack. You can find them cheaper than anything built for the hobby market.

Let this be a lesson to the rest of you.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

poo poo, you guys are brilliant. I've been looking for something for Tamiya bottles that doesn't cost a fortune.

Beware the depth of the racks. Tamiya bottles don't fit my nail polish rack.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Gewehr 43 posted:

Beware the depth of the racks. Tamiya bottles don't fit my nail polish rack.

Vallejo Modelaire takes up about 2/3 of the depth of the racks I found. Badger's Miniatair? paints also fit easily as do old-school Testor's glass bottles.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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These are the ones I bought a few months back, and I just did a test and they hold the Tamiya mini bottles. Not sure about the full-size Tamiya bottles.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N18H6MR/ref=dp_cerb_1


Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




mllaneza posted:

Maybe some black or brown acrylic ink for panel lining.

I'd recommend enamel based washes or oils for panel lining for a beginner. Much more forgiving than acrylics.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Symetrique posted:

I'd recommend enamel based washes or oils for panel lining for a beginner. Much more forgiving than acrylics.

On the one hand I have acrylic inks an sacrificial brushes. On the other hand I'm a good listener. Is it it worth dealing with enamels and another thinner ?

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




mllaneza posted:

On the one hand I have acrylic inks an sacrificial brushes. On the other hand I'm a good listener. Is it it worth dealing with enamels and another thinner ?

Depends on the techniques you want to work with. Something like the oil dot technique wont work with acrylic inks. You can get a lot more mileage out of fewer products if you use oils to make your own washes, liners, and filters. Like I just use artist's oils from Blick and use odorless mineral spirits (Gamsol brand) to thin them to the necessary consistency. The enamel based liners can also be cleaned up with Gamsol/mineral spirits. If you want some examples of this just go through Plasmo or Nightshift's channels.

Its also much easier to clean up a mistake if you're using acrylic or lacquers and weathering with oils/enamels since mineral spirits will easily clean up the oils/enamels without damaging your acrylic/lacquer layers. You also have a far longer working time to blend these in compared to acrylic inks.

Not that you cant get good lining by using acrylic inks, but oils/enamels just end up being so much more versatile and forgiving.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Yup, I got a $10 tube of brown oil paint something like five years ago to make washes and I still have half the tube left. I highly suggest going this route.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
The USPS needs some money, and I have extraneous kits. If you live in the US, and you're cool with sending me your address, one of these kits can be yours at no cost to you.

    1x 1/72 S-model T-35
    2x 1/144 Bandai A-wings
    2x 1/72 Plastic Soldier Company M4 Shermans. Buildable as either M4A4s or Fireflies. Be forewarned: weirdly narrow tracks.
    1x egg-scale Fujimi Type 10 tank, includes photoetch fret.
    1x egg-scale Meng Tiger I
    1x egg-scale Tiger Model Ki-84


Hit me up via PM or my gmail account at destysa. Since the object is to generate a couple extra bucks for the post office, if you want to do a kit swap, that's cool too, but I'm not expecting anything other than slightly emptier shelves.

grassy gnoll fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 6, 2020

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool
Some amazing work in this thread so slightly hesitant to jump in. I've not put a model together for around thirteen years at a guess (a mkII Ford Escort rally car long since lost) and before that the last time I was probably my sons age. But the kids bought me this Bandai A-Wing for fathers day so I had to give it a go.

It didn't all go smoothly, lots of lessons to learn. I followed some reviews and guides I found online for the most part. I also found someone selling a cheap airbrush locally as well which took a bit of learning. I used Vallejo paints over grey spray can primer, probably went overboard on the weathering but I was learning as I went.





I think that the main takeaway is that I really enjoyed doing it, enough that I may do another next month. Any comments / pointers would be great.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Jekub posted:




I think that the main takeaway is that I really enjoyed doing it, enough that I may do another next month. Any comments / pointers would be great.

Looks great to me! Can't really give you any pointers or useful comments since that doesn't appear to be either wood, or a ship. :v:

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Jekub posted:

Some amazing work in this thread so slightly hesitant to jump in.

Don't be. I feel the folks here are very supportive and pretty much cater to every level. Your work is great!

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Jekub posted:

Some amazing work in this thread so slightly hesitant to jump in.

Feel free to check my post history for some very not amazing work. Your ship looks amazing though, well done.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Jekub posted:

I used Vallejo paints over grey spray can primer, probably went overboard on the weathering but I was learning as I went.
You literally can't over weather a Star Wars ship.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Jekub posted:

Any comments / pointers would be great.
Comment: looks amazing.
Pointers: take more pictures, from more angles. Also post WIPs if you got 'em.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
That's a dope A-Wing, even doper if it's your first model in a decade. Excellent work!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Jekub posted:

Some amazing work in this thread so slightly hesitant to jump in. I've not put a model together for around thirteen years at a guess (a mkII Ford Escort rally car long since lost) and before that the last time I was probably my sons age. But the kids bought me this Bandai A-Wing for fathers day so I had to give it a go.

It didn't all go smoothly, lots of lessons to learn. I followed some reviews and guides I found online for the most part. I also found someone selling a cheap airbrush locally as well which took a bit of learning. I used Vallejo paints over grey spray can primer, probably went overboard on the weathering but I was learning as I went.





I think that the main takeaway is that I really enjoyed doing it, enough that I may do another next month. Any comments / pointers would be great.

Your kids have great taste in spaceships.

This is great work, and you should definitely do another one.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Build models for your satisfaction and joy, nobody else's.

That being said, I'd be very much satisfied and joyful at producing an A-Wing like that one.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Fearless posted:

Build models for your satisfaction and joy, nobody else's.

That being said, I'd be very much satisfied and joyful at producing an A-Wing like that one.

Couldn't have said it better so won't try.

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool
Thanks for the encouragement, my kids know me all to well with that choice. I'll definitely do another but I'm going to need to find somewhere other than our dining table to build, even with covers down that did not go over to well.

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Enos Shenk
Nov 3, 2011


Just trying to be constructive with the weathering. The sides look great, the only spot it looks overdone is along the front edges on the fins and nose. Other than that, that's beautiful for not having done a kit of anything for that long!

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