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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

John Henshaw was the archetypal Fred Colon for me.

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The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Jedit posted:

John Henshaw was the archetypal Fred Colon for me.

Oh yes, visually he�s spot on.

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The_Doctor posted:

Oh yes, visually he�s spot on.

More than just visually - his character in The Cops is essentially Fred Colon played straight.

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Jedit posted:

More than just visually - his character in The Cops is essentially Fred Colon played straight.

I'm drunk and read fried colon. That's all thank for reading.

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mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm drunk and read fried colon. That's all thank for reading.

My local Szechuan place does those in a sweet-bitter-spicy sauce with crushed red spicy peppers, and green Bell peppers. Absolutely delicious, like a whole plate of melt-in-your-mouth pork shoulder.

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Doubtful Guest: Jun 23, 2008; Meanwhile, Conradin made himself another piece of toazzzzzzt.

Asgerd posted:

My choice for Carrot would be Tom Hopper, since he combines a boyish face with the body of a cartoon strongman.

Agreed. I was just thinking that while watching The Umbrella Academy.

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Asgerd: May 6, 2012; I worked up a powerful loneliness in my massive bed, in the massive dark.; Grimey Drawer

Just dust off his old costume from Merlin and dye his hair ginger and we're golden:

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

mllaneza posted:

My local Szechuan place does those in a sweet-bitter-spicy sauce with crushed red spicy peppers, and green Bell peppers. Absolutely delicious, like a whole plate of melt-in-your-mouth pork shoulder.

OH YEAH?

Well, sounds delicious.

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Alaemon: Jan 4, 2009; Proctors are guardians of the sanctity and integrity of legal education, therefore they are responsible for the nourishment of the soul.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm drunk and read fried colon. That's all thank for reading.

There's good eating on one of those.

# ? Aug 16, 2020 01:33

Asgerd: May 6, 2012; I worked up a powerful loneliness in my massive bed, in the massive dark.; Grimey Drawer

There are starving children in Muntab who'd be glad to have that!

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Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Mokinokaro posted:

Overall, yeah. I still don't mind most of Vimes' look though.

lol he's got the dis-organiser on his belt which they're absolutely going to make a thing in the lamest possible way, which is going to be terrible on top of all the other terrible things in this adaptation.

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Mrenda: Mar 14, 2012

Trin Tragula posted:

It's always Reg Hollis and Tony Stamp off The Bill for people of a certain age from the UK, sorry

This is the culturally correct casting with regards to the time of the book's publication, and kids like me who would read the books but also watch the first of the prestige TV dramas, The Bill.

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The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Entropic posted:

lol he's got the dis-organiser on his belt which they're absolutely going to make a thing in the lamest possible way, which is going to be terrible on top of all the other terrible things in this adaptation.

I think that might just be a cigar case.

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SixFigureSandwich: Oct 30, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

To bad Brian blessed is too old, he would be a great archchancellor .
"BUUURSAAARRR!"

Michael Sheen could be an acceptable substitute in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNvre0lsvvI

(watch Staged, it's fun)

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Sloth Life: Nov 15, 2014; Built for comfort and speed!; Fallen Rib

I like Sheen but he's got this raging 'mental about to snap' to 'staggeringly fey' kind of energy. Would have made a good Coin from Sourcery, or Albert maybe.

Greg Davies (sodding big n broad, comic actor) would be my bet for the Archchancellor. Or Clive Mantle, also generously proportioned.

Patricia Routledge as Granny Weatherwax? Yay? Nay?

Pam St Clements as Nanny Ogg, basically EastEnders anyway.

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Sloth Life posted:

Patricia Routledge as Granny Weatherwax? Yay? Nay?

Not just Nay, but Hell Nay. Pat Routledge is much more of a Nanny Ogg - although of course she's best known for playing Hyacinth Bucket, on whom Lettice Earwig in TSALF was based. (Also she's past 90 and has been retired for 20 years.)

The best Granny casting for me would be Kate Dickie. She's about ten years too young at 49, but that's actually an advantage because Granny has a notably unlined face.

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Patricia Routledge for Archchancellor fite me.

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SirSamVimes: Jul 21, 2008; ~* Challenge *~

Sloth Life posted:

I like Sheen but he's got this raging 'mental about to snap' to 'staggeringly fey' kind of energy. Would have made a good Coin from Sourcery, or Albert maybe.

Greg Davies (sodding big n broad, comic actor) would be my bet for the Archchancellor. Or Clive Mantle, also generously proportioned.

Patricia Routledge as Granny Weatherwax? Yay? Nay?

Pam St Clements as Nanny Ogg, basically EastEnders anyway.

I only know Greg Davies from the Taskmaster game show but that's enough to say that you are absolutely right.

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Nuclear War: Nov 7, 2012; You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

Rowan Atkinson was always Rincewind to me

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Beachcomber: May 21, 2007; Another day in paradise.; Slippery Tilde

I think Tom Hiddleston could pull off a decent Rincewind, as he is in my head. He could sound depressed and put upon enough.

Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Aug 17, 2020

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thetoughestbean: Apr 27, 2013; Keep On Shroomin

Beachcomber posted:

I think Tom Hiddleston could pull off a decent Rincewind, as he is in my head. He could sound depressed and put upon enough.

I don�t know if the world can handle hot Rincewind

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Antifa Poltergeist: Jun 3, 2004; "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"

The universe constantly screwing with hot rincewind would be a cool concept, like Death would be pissed that he doesnt die and hes also dreamy.

But yeah, part of the charm of discworld is that its just odd people in a odd world, the setting and the profound humanism in the stories are the beautifull things.

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Tree Bucket: Apr 1, 2016; R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Asgerd posted:

There are starving children in Muntab who'd be glad to have that!

hang on, where's Muntab?

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Patricia Routledge for Archchancellor fite me.

yes. YES

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Bruceski: Aug 21, 2007; The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

SirSamVimes posted:

I only know Greg Davies from the Taskmaster game show but that's enough to say that you are absolutely right.

Alex Horne as the Bursar then.

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Mad Hamish: Jun 15, 2008; WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

At what point did the Muntab Question switch to "Where's Muntab?" from their calendar counting down and no-one knew why?

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SirSamVimes: Jul 21, 2008; ~* Challenge *~

Bruceski posted:

Alex Horne as the Bursar then.

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Mad Hamish posted:

At what point did the Muntab Question switch to "Where's Muntab?" from their calendar counting down and no-one knew why?

The Muntab Question was always "where's Muntab?" We just first heard about the Theocracy of Muntab because of their calendar.

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Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

An Occasional Series Of Posts From Usenet, Vol 3

Back when it were all fields round here, there were two thriving hubs of discussion on Usenet, of late beloved memory, for Terry Pratchett's output. As a noted early adopter, the man himself frequently dropped by to add his two penn'orth, until he voluntarily withdrew around the turn of the millennium for fear of spurious copyright claims along the lines of "you're writing about Discworld tax collectors, I wrote about Discworld tax collectors on Usenet in 1989, you've clearly stolen my idea".

alt.books.pratchett came about in 1996 as a lower-traffic, less silly, more focused space for more in-depth discussion of the books than was possible on the existing alt.fan.pratchett group. It worked pretty well and there's still plenty of stuff that came out of there which is worth reading. When things slow down in here, sometimes I go find something from there that seems worth revisiting.

Previously:

What the hell is Vetinari playing at in Jingo?
Feet of Clay and the Fog

This time, let's try something which isn't analysis of one particular book. Is Pterry going downhill? was posted in late 1998, after The Lost Continent and Carpe Jugulum; and before The Fifth Elephant.

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Date: 25 Nov 1998
From: TOBIAS RASMUS VIG LARSEN

I'm sorry if this hits the ng a little late, but having only just finished the book, Carpe Jugulum, I have to wonder : Am I the only fan of Terry's that thinks this constant, repetitive use of the same characters over and over again is slowly killing the series? Reading Carpe Jugulum is like reading Lords & Ladies with a couple of sentences switched around and slightly different ending!

It's still a fun book, but it's not as good as older books. the same goes for Jingo by the way. And the "Death" books should end with Hogfather. Death is a wonderful character, as are the witches and the guard, but they can take no more!

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From: Anna

Sorry but I cannot possible agree. I find I always enjoy books more if I know more about the characters - and the guards books are my absolute favourite. My least favourites are Small Gods and Pyramids, because they are only 'one off' characters - I don't feel I know them, and can't really relate to them. I like Moving Pictures because it has the faculty in it, and Gaspode. It's true that you partially knew what to expect from CJ, but does that have to be a bad thing?

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Date: 26 Nov 1998
From: valdisb

Sorry, but I disagree to both of you. I think that using the same characters is the only way of letting them really grow and develop. Trying to "develop" a character during a single book... well, it can work quite well, but it is often very washed out and thin.

Nevertheless, I don't think that SG and P should be marked down for having their own sets of characters, because I don't think that character development is what they are about. And anyway I think that the creation of the characters worked out very well there.

And, yes, I do think it is a bad thing to know what to expect. That's why I usually stop watching TV shows after their 2nd or 3rd season, the characters get stuck and the plot stops developing. You always know that "he" likes "her" and "she" likes "him" but they still can never get along and will never end up "together". It's not only bad, it's boring.

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From: Dave Howe

For that matter, how many authors do you know that write NOTHING but one-off novels, one after another? The vast majority (if not all - I can't think of an example where the author has written more than two or three and done this) re-use either characters (often following on in series) or situations (as with "formula novels, popular in the romantic fields I believe) - and often both.

We have in the Discworld, a complex, detailed world, designed from the turtle up [1] where four or five different story threads are set - the Watch, the Witches, The Wizards, Death and so forth - and while they occasionally tangle, they are usually separate enough that you can read only one series without serious loss from not having read another (even, in for example the Watch and Wizard threads, when they are sharing the limited elbow room of a single city)

[1] Well, "from the ground up" would be inaccurate, wouldn't it <grin>

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From: Ophelia

I don't order the books according to degree of favourites, as I'm lousy at making decisions, but if I did, Jingo would be way up there - and partly because Pterry has reused, or, rather, developed his characters.

I always identified strongly with Vimes. In Jingo that identification became so strong as to be painful. Vimes' old anger at the world for not being a decent place seemed sharpened, and his guilty, suspicious jealousy of Carrot and fear of becoming useless (again)... well, I was pretty deeply involved. And his angry pacifism, and his horror of being racist that led him into a double bind of not wanting the Klatchians to be fully flawed human beings - well, let's just say I recognised those traits. <g>

We got to see a new, more sympathetic side of the Patrician - still a ruthless bastard, but with a streak of decency. And we got, very touchingly, to see more of Vimes' and Sybil's marriage. Plus an unexpected and equally charming side of Nobby. <g> I even began to sort-of feel a mild affection for Angua, which is saying something.

For contrast, though, take Aspirin's "Myth" books. They were never in Pterry's realm, being extremely American fluff, but they used to be amusing enough with quite likable characters. Then he decided, according to his own foreword, to "develop" them. The result being that Aspirin began to keep stopping the plot and jokes to have his characters develop mini-lectures on alcoholism, responsibility, why corporate executives deserve to be paid obscene amounts of money [!] the trials of being a beautiful woman [double !], you name it. His books steadily became unreadable.

Pterry has escaped that fate because his characters develop in realistic, consistent ways.

Pterry is one of the few authors I would honestly argue is getting better with age. COM and TLF and, even, Mort (which I love) look a little lightweight in comparison to some of the later books, especially Jingo. I think perhaps having established characters has worked in his favour, too, as it means that groundwork has already been laid.

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Date: 27 Nov 1998
From: Miq

That was a very clear and cogent explanation of why you like the books - and for that, thank you.

But it's almost the diametric opposite of why I like 'em.

For me, Terry's books are comedies. The observations on real life are shrewd and sometimes poignant; the characters are all splendidly human, and even the minor villains are never really one-dimensional; the character interaction is splendidly believable; but in the end, the humour is what I'm there for.

In Jingo, and to a lesser extent in CJ, I get a rather depressing feeling that Terry is starting to take himself too seriously. That rather commonplace political commentary (in Jingo), and character development (in CJ), has become more important than being funny.

Now, I'll be the first to accept that they're Terry's books and Terry's characters and set in Terry's world, and if he wants to take it that way, that's up to him. But I think it's a shame. To see our best living humorous writer turning into a run-of-the-mill character author... is something I'd rather avoid.

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Date: 30 Nov 1998
From: Richard Bos

Harumph. It doesn't often happen, Miq, that I really disagree with you, but this time I must. I don't think J and CJ are that bad at all. In fact, I think J thoroughly enjoyable and CJ one of his masterpieces. To explain:

Yes, J is for a part political commentary. It is not, however, commonplace commentary; to begin with it manages to be both more (Vimes) and less (Rust) subtle than average. Then there is the plethora of characters and views on the war, of which only the really obvious ones are really "bad". And there are the scenes with Al and Beti in Klatch, and with the watch on the boat.

Yes, CJ was for a large part about character development. But this development was needed. Granny was getting really pushed to the borders of a reasonable character; to stop her from becoming a kind of catch-all, she needed something to stop her. Magrat could not just live in the palace, be a mother in silence and do nothing else; she had to have something to keep in touch with the rest. And Agnes was really an unwritten book as far as real witchcraft was concerned, and was just begging for a role. I think CJ addresses all those quite nicely, and it was just in time as well. And we get to see something more of a (relatively) new area of the DW, �berwald.

And, most importantly, the books are funny. Both J and CJ had me laughing rather loudly. I agree, if the other bits would be detrimental to the humour, that would be a bitter disappointment, but they aren't. So, really, I have to say that the DW is not becoming less interesting. Maybe even more so. Though, after those two, perhaps it is time for a "merely" funny book; something lighter every now and then is also well received at my end. But definitely not for every book.

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Date: 01 Dec 1998
From: Ophelia

Maybe we're not that opposed - he's pretty drat funny, that's for sure.

What brought me up short was the remark about commonplace political commentary in Jingo." True, "racism and warmongering are bad" are not exactly strikingly original insights, even if they do bounce off some people. But, in Jingo," I feel real value in the way Pterry treats the question of personal responsibility in [inter]national matters.

Lord Rust, Vimes, Vetinari, Ahmed, Carrot, Sibyl and Colon all take vastly different approaches to this issue. While it's a fair guess that Rust gets it wrong <g>, it's not entirely certain which - if any - of the others get it right. And this questioning, this ambiguity, this openness, is far from the usual pedantic approach you usually get towards this issue.

Not that Pterry can't take the cliched sledgehammer approach in a way reminiscent of a Merkin sitcom writer drumming the moral into the audience's head at the end of an episode. When Angua saves Cheery, making Cheery think, ooh, werewolves can be nice people too... Well, it was unworthy of him. And the "closet" metaphors of werewolves and female dwarves were working so nicely up to that point, too.

Run-of-the-mill? Pterry's characters? <g> But so far I think he's given us better character development while remaining the best living humorous writer. Me, I like to have my cake and eat it too. Isn't that what being a - ah, werewolf - is all about?

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Date: 01 Dec 1998
From: Terry Pratchett

Stepping back from all this, here is my prediction:

You'll see more 'negative' comments about DW in years to come, irrespective of the quality or otherwise of the narrative; and there will be more and closer 'destructive' deconstruction of the books.

This is simply because DW has been around for a long time. If you -- a generic you, rather than any particular reader -- took the view that the books were getting better, then in the nature of things there'll be a curve -- they can't 'get better' for ever. Every book will be another DW book; whatever the differences in plot and character, it will have a DW feel and be written by the same author, so to that extent will have a familiar 'feel'.

And DW has become very familiar to lots of people, who in the nature of fans take a proprietary interest and 'know' how things are supposed to go and get affronted when they don't go that way (did saving Cheery make Angua a goody? Hardly...even Cheery is nervy of her. Was the 'technique' used by Granny in CJ deus ex machina, when it was telegraphed with little clues almost from the beginning of the book?)

I quite certain that the way that DW is going is the only way I can take it. TLC was a deliberate throwback, and there may be more -- but while a book has got to be worthwhile from the point of view of the reader it's got to be worthwhile from the point of view of the writer as well.

If afp had been around in, oh, 1988, I have been 'advised' to write more books about Rincewind. On that basis, Men At Arms or Small Gods would never have happened, and I'd have quit after half a dozen books because Rincewind is not the easiest of characters to develop (for similar reasons, maybe that's why HHGTTG is not a 20-book trilogy:-)

And this is why I don't pick up on the oft-posted requests to 'do one about the Olympics/football/newspapers'. It'd be too easy to turn out one of these as a sort of Moving Pictures. There'd have to be a PLOT that I'm happy with too (in fact there nearly is, for one of them).

What I can't do is mark time. Other authors have been able to, but I'm not one of them (and I dread to think of the posting there would have been on alt.fan.pgwodehouse if the 'net had been around seventy years ago: 'Oh, dear -- another one where one of Bertie's friends messes up, an aunt is involved, Bertie had to steal something and the all-powerful Jeeves sorts it all out in the end. He's over the hill, IMHO.'

The discussion continues after this, and focuses in more on the details of Carpe Jugulum and Jingo.

Of course, there never really was another throwback after The Lost Continent. The setting continued to evolve, Rincewind took a (mostly) quiet retirement, the plot that at the time "nearly was" quickly solidified into The Truth, over the next ten years we got some of the books most often cited as people's favourites, and whatever one wants to say about the final end, I'm pretty sure he never started marking time.

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The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

I miss AFP. :smith:

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

The_Doctor posted:

I miss AFP.

Amish Faxpot?

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Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Trin Tragula posted:

until he voluntarily withdrew around the turn of the millennium for fear of spurious copyright claims along the lines of "you're writing about Discworld tax collectors, I wrote about Discworld tax collectors on Usenet in 1989, you've clearly stolen my idea".

Yeah a lot of authors did that because Marion Zimmer Bradley is a horrible person and a liar. TL;DR, she offered to buy a fanfic from a fanfic writer for a couple hundred dollars, the fanfic writer said 'okay so long as I get a coauthor credit, since I wrote it'. In response, Bradley sued the fan, then spun a story to all her author friends that SHE had been the one who got sued, and it was because a fan had written a fanfic that was close to a published book and the fan got mad.

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Aug 23, 2020

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Amish Faxpot?

alt.fan.pratchett, the main Usenet group for discussion of Pterry's works. I'm still in touch occasionally with most of what remains of the core. I didn't think any other actual AFPers were here apart from me, though.

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idonotlikepeas: May 29, 2010; This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

I mostly lurked, but it was a lot of fun to read Pratchett's posts. He was on there way before most creators used the Internet for that kind of thing. And he would sometimes talk about video games, which was nice for a kid who felt like he was the only one that enjoyed them sometimes.

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Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

Tunicate posted:

Yeah a lot of authors did that because Marion Zimmer Bradley is a horrible person and a liar. TL;DR, she offered to buy a fanfic from a fanfic writer for a couple hundred dollars, the fanfic writer said 'okay so long as I get a coauthor credit, since I wrote it'. In response, Bradley sued the fan, then spun a story to all her author friends that SHE had been the one who got sued, and it was because a fan had written a fanfic that was close to a published book and the fan got mad.

well that link took me on a journey

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

idonotlikepeas posted:

I mostly lurked, but it was a lot of fun to read Pratchett's posts. He was on there way before most creators used the Internet for that kind of thing. And he would sometimes talk about video games, which was nice for a kid who felt like he was the only one that enjoyed them sometimes.

Usenet actually had a lot of then or now famous writers participating in sometimes surprising newsgroups. By "a lot" I mean I know of like six.

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Drakyn: Dec 26, 2012

Tunicate posted:

Yeah a lot of authors did that because Marion Zimmer Bradley is a horrible person and a liar. TL;DR, she offered to buy a fanfic from a fanfic writer for a couple hundred dollars, the fanfic writer said 'okay so long as I get a coauthor credit, since I wrote it'. In response, Bradley sued the fan, then spun a story to all her author friends that SHE had been the one who got sued, and it was because a fan had written a fanfic that was close to a published book and the fan got mad.

Someone better tell poor ol' Vulpes over in BSS then.

# ? Aug 24, 2020 01:21

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Jedit posted:

alt.fan.pratchett, the main Usenet group for discussion of Pterry's works. I'm still in touch occasionally with most of what remains of the core. I didn't think any other actual AFPers were here apart from me, though.

We had this discussion a while back, but I was on about 1996 to 2005ish. Still keep in touch with more than a few of them.

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Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Drakyn posted:

Someone better tell poor ol' Vulpes over in BSS then.

the rumor has spread pretty darn far, and I'm not gonna kramer into a thread I don't follow to explain about how the whole thing got started by a horrible person's lies

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Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

Trin Tragula posted:

Of course, there never really was another throwback after The Lost Continent. The setting continued to evolve, Rincewind took a (mostly) quiet retirement, the plot that at the time "nearly was" quickly solidified into The Truth, over the next ten years we got some of the books most often cited as people's favourites, and whatever one wants to say about the final end, I'm pretty sure he never started marking time.

The Lost Continent was pretty bad. It's one of the few Discworld books I haven't read several times (on the second reread I just gave up).

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Antifa Poltergeist posted:

Nobby is technically human so it would be against his brand.
To bad Brian blessed is too old, he would be a great archchancellor .
"BUUURSAAARRR!"

Blessed's in no way too old. Remember, Ridcully's about the same age as Granny Weatherwax.

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