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vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
The download was almost done and just then my stupid sister picked up the phooone!

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Haha, well hello there 1997!

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005
First impressions:

There's a lot of possibility here, since the performance and visuals are way ahead of what the old FSX/P3d engine was capable of, and it runs substantially smoother than either of those ever did. Basically, this is one drat pretty simulator.

The new scenery system is amazing in areas where there's decent photo/satellite coverage to work from, but there's some oddball things like major landmarks (like the Colosseum or Buckingham Palace) being generic office buildings, and some random spikes in terrain, which I assume will eventually get fixed by either the developers or 3rd party users.

Whoever designed the control mapping UI needs to be kicked in the genitals, repeatedly. The default mapping makes zero sense (of the three POV hats on my HOTAS setup, one was assigned to trims, the other two did nothing), and the UI for remapping buttons or axis is needlessly complex and generally requires more steps than it really needs to. On the subject of controls, the default sensitivities are too high, but those are at least easy to adjust.

The weather system has a lot of potential, but it's currently somewhat broken, with winds aloft missing for large chunks of the world (like all of north america), and surface winds randomly not happening at some airports.

The flight modeling seems a lot better than the default stuff in P3d/FSX (we finally have a working mixture simulation!), but I'm not 100% sold on spins.

A lot of the aircraft systems are either missing or broken, since the flight directors don't work without the autopilot, piston twins can't feather an engine, and the A320, 787 and 747 all have a lot of bugs that still need squashing.

Also, there's essentially zero documentation for anything with the airplanes, so have fun googling!

Given that this is the first day it's been out, there's a ton of potential here, but also quite a bit of stuff that needs fixing to get some of the basic functionality working properly.

azflyboy fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Aug 19, 2020

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

That sounds like it's off to a way better start than anything since FS2000 or IL-2 1.0.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
I thought I feathered a prop on one I flew, but yeah there are a lot of bugs so I believe that stuff isn't working. My copilot suicided the plane full throttle into the ground when I handed it over for a second. Hopefully they keep working on it and release patches often! Also I was hoping they'd have full checklists for all the planes.

Also the tutorial missions are really lacking. The ill-fated Microsoft Flight (2012) had great ones and even had fun repeatable generated missions like smuggling where you have to keep it under 1,000 (100?) feet.

I'll have to read up tonight on how to do the VNAV part of landing with a GPS. Just pushing the button isn't good enough I guess :P

Also is this octagonal shape a removed VOR?
https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=03b45bae-fa79-4910-9f99-1c39d1a8bd39&cp=47.45539~-122.477125&lvl=19&style=h&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

On a field that small it's more likely a removed segmented circle, used to indicate traffic patterns:




Could also just be a run-up area or turnaround or something.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
🤦‍♂️ It's a grass helipad.
https://www.wsdot.com/aviation/AllStateAirports/Vashon_VashonMunicipal.htm
hehe

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Charles posted:

I thought I feathered a prop on one I flew, but yeah there are a lot of bugs so I believe that stuff isn't working. My copilot suicided the plane full throttle into the ground when I handed it over for a second.

Were you trying to take a poo poo at mach 0.8?

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

Elviscat posted:

Were you trying to take a poo poo at mach 0.8?

They were trying to execute a go-around but forgot the part where you aim it at the sky. Basically Atlas Air'd it

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Charles posted:

I thought I feathered a prop on one I flew, but yeah there are a lot of bugs so I believe that stuff isn't working. My copilot suicided the plane full throttle into the ground when I handed it over for a second.

An interesting choice of MS to include the 737MAX.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/BoldlyBuilding2/status/1295870236080648192

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Well poo poo, Flight sim even has some bush/private airstrips around Australia I know of!

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

I did a flip in a 737. Game good.

Edit: Is there a way to disable the fade to black when you gently caress up? If I shear off the wings of my plane doing something stupid I want to see what happens.

Warbird fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Aug 19, 2020

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

Warbird posted:

I did a flip in a 737. Game good.

Edit: Is there a way to disable the fade to black when you gently caress up? If I shear off the wings of my plane doing something stupid I want to see what happens.

You can disable crashes (it's under "assists"), but parts won't break off the airplanes or anything if you do.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Has there been any info posted regarding how the aircraft marketplace will work? We've hosted Automation Game challenges in AI before. It would be fantastic if we could host a similar challenge but for aircraft. I just want to build Crimson Skies planes all day.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I’m looking forward to that air force proud guy’s atc videos in that.. is there a dedicated atc mode?

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

McTinkerson posted:

Has there been any info posted regarding how the aircraft marketplace will work? We've hosted Automation Game challenges in AI before. It would be fantastic if we could host a similar challenge but for aircraft. I just want to build Crimson Skies planes all day.

My understanding is that developers can sell through the marketplace (which presumably takes a cut of the money), but they can also sell through their own websites/installers, and you can also install stuff into the sim directly.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

priznat posted:

I’m looking forward to that air force proud guy’s atc videos in that.. is there a dedicated atc mode?

He's posted two landing challenges so far, but i can't wait for his ATC videos either

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

azflyboy posted:

You can disable crashes (it's under "assists"), but parts won't break off the airplanes or anything if you do.

Does that let you lawn dart into the ground/building/another plane/fukkin moon like the old games did before 9/11 or so you just bounce along the ground?

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Warbird posted:

Does that let you lawn dart into the ground/building/another plane/fukkin moon like the old games did before 9/11 or so you just bounce along the ground?

The number one most important feature for me is that crashes need to be spectacular to make up for for often I cause them.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

Warbird posted:

Does that let you lawn dart into the ground/building/another plane/fukkin moon like the old games did before 9/11 or so you just bounce along the ground?

I think you just bounce off whatever you hit.

FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity

Fun Shoe

azflyboy posted:

First impressions:

There's a lot of possibility here, since the performance and visuals are way ahead of what the old FSX/P3d engine was capable of, and it runs substantially smoother than either of those ever did. Basically, this is one drat pretty simulator.

-snip-

I've had the pleasure of seeing it improve over the last few months. While there are a ton of things still be be done I'm not worried about it since it is 2020 and everything is a Platform now. They're planning on hanging a ton of new content, challenges, etc. off this thing over the next several years.

I'm super excited about what this product is going to be like in 6 to 8 months, but yeah, right now, Auto throttle is broken, the autopilot in many planes hates itself and you, sometimes the Garmin crashes to desktop, etc.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

did Jerry take a vacation in Michigan? https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2020/08/19/info-sought-about-plane-that-flew-under-mackinac-bridge-see-video/

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

The coast guard must be jealous of Bigfoot and Nessie photographers.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Disrupting FSX chat, but I saw something that I've only seen once before in the 4 years I've been going up the Adirondacks; a plane parked at Marcy Field.
Marcy Field; https://www.airnav.com/airport/1I1

I'm enough of a scrub that my butt puckers a bit flying a 172 into a 3,000 foot paved runway, that place looks a bit beyond me.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

LostCosmonaut posted:

Disrupting FSX chat, but I saw something that I've only seen once before in the 4 years I've been going up the Adirondacks; a plane parked at Marcy Field.
Marcy Field; https://www.airnav.com/airport/1I1

I'm enough of a scrub that my butt puckers a bit flying a 172 into a 3,000 foot paved runway, that place looks a bit beyond me.

2400ft? pishawww you could get a mid weight PC12 into that with relative ease

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1296199802171133954

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

nature is healing

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

slidebite posted:

A guy in the Flightsim thread in games flew over Orlando.

Looks really good... letting it download as I go back to work this afternoon. Seems to be a bit of fuckery to get it going.


You're welcome. :)

I did some flying around Isle Royle in Lake Superior. I was legit spooked by almost flying into IMC. If it had been real life I would have turned around.

Zero One posted:

I flew over Lake Superior to Isle Royale. The crossing was fine, I was cruising just under the clouds.


Then it got a little scary.



Luckily the clouds cleared and I was able to land at the visitor center.



The only thing really bugging me about the game right now is the lack of full checklists and reference information like FSX has.

Oh and that the logbook will log flights that you only loaded into the airport to look at a plane and then quit before moving.

Zero One fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Aug 20, 2020

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
Now that I am back in a land with electricity and internet

Charles posted:

Flightradar24, although the interface isn't super intuitive.
Does it have an option to look at historical snapshots somewhere? I'm not seeing it

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Four engines and "air force gray" makes me think KC-135.
It looked to me like it had a long tail stinger, but it was far enough away I couldn't tell for sure if that wasn't one of the horizontal stabilizers

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

airship models when?

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Microsoft Float Simulator 2020

Anybody flown over Area 51? I would definitely be dicking around in all the restricted airspace I can find.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Microsoft Float Simulator 2020

Anybody flown over Area 51? I would definitely be dicking around in all the restricted airspace I can find.


Its modeled.

I flew over Kennedy Space Center earlier today. The VAB is there but just a giant grey block. The launchpads are mostly flat.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Microsoft Float Simulator 2020

Anybody flown over Area 51? I would definitely be dicking around in all the restricted airspace I can find.

If you’re a true flight sim nerd you’d buy an e-2c model and sit in the back pretending you’re in the gulf of sidra

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
flew a 787 from LNS to PHIL with a friend on discord, using him as a navigator looking up landmarks on google maps, because I didn't set a destination, landed then died taxing too fast into the terminal

I couldn't figure out the flaps for the first 15 minutes

A++ would fly again

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.

The FS2020 hype is getting out of hand

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Microsoft Float Simulator 2020

Anybody flown over Area 51? I would definitely be dicking around in all the restricted airspace I can find.

https://youtu.be/5SwPbV8OUrQ

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

Does it have an option to look at historical snapshots somewhere? I'm not seeing it

I've used it before, but I turned off my computer already so I can't take screenshots. On the cell phone I can see a data / history button.

Edit : I remember you will have to convert local time to UTC because that's what it goes on.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Microsoft Float Simulator 2020

Anybody flown over Area 51? I would definitely be dicking around in all the restricted airspace I can find.

Look up closed cities in Russia, then. Wander too close to Area 51, you get warned off plenty of times before they even consider lighting you up. Wander too close to a closed city, they'll not only shoot you down, but bomb and strafe the crash site because ashes are easier to dispose of.

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Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
I got hit by the derecho and have been without power and internet for 10 days(currently) and I am pissed that FS2020 came out and I can’t play it.

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