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stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Devils Affricate posted:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1550444/

Most of the population growth was caused by better medical health care, better hygiene, stable food supply (minus the great leap forward years), things like modern vaccines antibiotic etc, not any monetary reward to families that have 5 Children.

Fun fact, my grandmother was a school vice principle in GZ. She had 4 children and she told me she was the first woman in GZ who took the contraceptive surgery. Out of all her 4 children each only had one child, half of them by own decision not by the 1 child policy.

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 22:49

Dreddout: Oct 1, 2015; You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Devils Affricate posted:

Also, incidentally, a policy that Mao came up with

What makes Matt's idea dumb is the idea of tripling america's population through immigration for the explicit purpose of fighting china. The assertion that letting in 700 million immigrants would be politically feasible in modern America is laughable.

1950's China had 800 million people and was experiencing population growth. Anyone could've predicted that the total pop would eventually hit 1 billion. Mao was making an observation more than anything

# ? Sep 24, 2020 15:15

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

OhFunny posted:

North Korean troops kill S.Korean man, burn body, Seoul says

North Korean troops reportedly have orders to shoot and burn any attempting to enter the country to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

i looked this story up on south korean media and the guys family is calling shenanigans they said that the governments changed their story several times about what happened to him in private and that no one has offered them any evidence at all that he was trying to defect

people who actually live in the area over all also find the story highly suspect because they insist its impossible to try to get to north korea from the yeonpyeong islands by swimming and that youd have to be a total nutter to even try its not a matter of distance the waves are too rough and anyone with any kind of local fishing experience like the alleged defector would know that

# ? Sep 24, 2020 15:32

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

who wants to go through this and find the elementary schools marked as detention facilities
https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1308950444388089857?s=20

# ? Sep 24, 2020 15:35

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

Also lol at the idea of being able to afford having a child nowadays, let alone multiple, and especially lol at the moral failings you have to have to bring them into a world that is going to be destroyed by climate change

# ? Sep 24, 2020 15:41

Dreddout: Oct 1, 2015; You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Grapplejack posted:

especially lol at the moral failings you have to have to bring them into a world that is going to be destroyed by climate change

Eh people were having kids during the black plague it's goony to suggest humans shouldn't fulfill a base urge during historical downturns. It's gonna happen irregardless of environmental conditions.

# ? Sep 24, 2020 15:56

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

yeah i want a little kiddo that looks like me and i can possess like an object. its only natural

# ? Sep 24, 2020 16:33

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Children are fun, you guys are missing out.

# ? Sep 24, 2020 16:45

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1309107488894132228?s=19

# ? Sep 24, 2020 17:14

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

https://twitter.com/sunbea07/status/1309132283287343107?s=19

# ? Sep 24, 2020 18:16

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

stephenthinkpad posted:

Children are fun, you guys are missing out.

the little fucker upstairs running around at 1am in the morning and then back to running at 5am begs to differ, and thats just me. I cant imagine how the parents deal with him

# ? Sep 24, 2020 18:54

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/sunbea07/status/1309132283287343107?s=19

I will settle for the Nepal model.

# ? Sep 24, 2020 19:09

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Yeah, I kind of doubt lib yellow shirt protestors are going to be down for that, especially if they have to give any economic concessions to the red shirts.

# ? Sep 24, 2020 19:20

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

Ardennes posted:

Yeah, I kind of doubt lib yellow shirt protestors are going to be down for that, especially if they have to give any economic concessions to the red shirts.

the current protestors are absolutely not the yellow shirts, the yellow shirts are 100% behind the junta. and they were not lib at all, they were always full royalist reactionaries.

# ? Sep 24, 2020 20:52

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Cao Ni Ma posted:

the little fucker upstairs running around at 1am in the morning and then back to running at 5am begs to differ, and thats just me. I cant imagine how the parents deal with him

apparently they "love" them or something

# ? Sep 24, 2020 20:54

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

kim jong un fly and land a plane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqPyJ74b7Y

# ? Sep 24, 2020 22:00

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

If the current Thailand protestors are mostly educated students, are they basically the disenfranchised youth from the traditional yellow shirt metropolitan areas? Have the red shirts mobilized?

indigi posted:

apparently they "love" them or something

You just have to accept the fate of living in a post-search warranted like meta-space when you have a toddler.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 22:23 on Sep 24, 2020

# ? Sep 24, 2020 22:20

THS: Sep 15, 2017

Chinese mission to UN rejects baseless accusations from the U.S.

quote:

On 23 September, the Permanent Mission of China to the United Nations exercised its right of reply, in accordance with the rules of the UN General Assembly, to the attack and slander against China made by the President of the United States at the general debate of the 75th session of the UN General Assembly. The full text of the reply is as follows:

At the general debate of the 75th session of the UN General Assembly, the United States attacked and slandered China in total disregard of basic facts. China expresses firm opposition.

The world is facing formidable challenges posed by COVID-19 and the serious threats of unilateralism, protectionism, and bullying practices. The world has come to a crossroads. At this moment, what is needed is unity, cooperation, and mutual trust, instead of confrontation and the spread of �political virus �.

The novel coronavirus is the common enemy of humankind. It is yet another unknown virus from nature, which can break out among humans anytime anywhere. China is a victim of the virus and a contributor to the global fight against it. China reported the epidemic, identified the pathogen, and shared its genome sequence with the world all at the earliest time possible. When human-to-human transmission was confirmed, China immediately made the resolute decision to shut all exit routes from Wuhan. The most stringent closure was imposed on the exit routes from Wuhan City and Hubei Province, and traffic control was put in place. China�s customs authorities promptly halted, in accordance with law, overseas travels by Chinese people under four categories, namely confirmed cases, suspected cases, close contacts with the former two, and people with fevers. When China closed the exit channels from Wuhan on January 23, only nine confirmed cases were identified outside China, of which only one was in the United States. On January 31, the US suspended direct flights with China. When the US closed its borders to all Chinese citizens on February 2, only a dozen of confirmed cases were reported in the US. China�s epidemic response has been open and transparent every step of the way. The time line is clear, and the facts and data speak for themselves.

The United States, as a developed country with the most advanced medical technology in the world, has nonetheless become the most severely affected country in the world, with more than 6 million confirmed cases and 200,000 deaths. The reasons behind are thought-provoking. The smear campaign against China on COVID-19 is an attempt by the US to shift the blame for its own poor handling of the epidemic onto China. The US also arbitrarily attacked and pulled out of the WHO, putting global anti-epidemic cooperation in jeopardy, harming people around the world and incurring a heavy cost for its own people. What the US needs to do now is stop the political manipulation, stop labeling or politicizing the virus, focus on combating the virus at home, and support the UN and the WHO in playing their roles.

On climate change and environmental protection, China has actively fulfilled international responsibilities compatible with its own stage of development and national conditions, and adopted a host of policies and actions. The outcomes achieved are widely recognized. China attained its 2020 climate action targets two years ahead of schedule, a major contribution to the global response to climate change. Non-fossil fuels now take up nearly 15 percent in China�s total energy consumption. China has 30 percent of the world�s installed capacity of renewable energy, accounting for 44 percent of the world increase. Its new energy vehicle stock is more than half the world�s total. China has contributed 25 percent to the increased afforestation areas worldwide since 2000. President Xi Jinping just announced at the general debate of the 75th UN General Assembly that China will update and enhance its nationally determined contribution targets, introduce stronger policies and measures, and strive for the peaking of CO2 emissions before 2030 and carbon neutrality before 2060. Such objectives are consistent with China's vision of a vibrant, clean and beautiful world through joint efforts and its commitment to fostering a community with a shared future for humankind.

China takes an active part in global climate governance. China is one of the first signatories of the UNFCCC and has contributed significantly to the conclusion of the Kyoto Protocol, the Paris Agreement and related implementation guidelines. Thanks to the concerted efforts by China and other parties, the 2019 UN Climate Change Conference in Madrid produced a string of decisions that reaffirmed the commitment to multilateralism and the consensus among all parties on climate governance, laying the groundwork for follow-up negotiations.

The United States, as the world�s largest emitter of greenhouse gases in cumulative terms, not only failed to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, but also pulled out of the Paris Agreement. It has rejected binding quantified emissions reduction targets for itself and refused to take even the minimum steps to protect the planet. By doing so, the US has completely disassociated itself from the global carbon emissions system and arrangements, and seriously held back such global processes as emissions reduction and green and low-carbon development. The United States is the world�s largest exporter of solid waste and a major consumer of plastics per capita. However, it has refused to ratify the Basel Convention and set obstacles for the global governance process on plastic waste. It has even shipped a huge amount of waste to developing countries, doing enormous harm to local and global environments. The US is not in any position to blame others.

Engaged in unilateralism and bullying practices, the US keeps withdrawing from international treaties and organizations, severely undermining the UN-centered international system and the international order based on international law. The US flexes its muscles in many parts of the world, interfering grossly in the internal affairs of other countries and instigating �color revolutions�, thus jeopardizing regional peace and stability. The US, by reverting to the �cold war mentality� and creating ideological confrontation, is pushing the world into a dangerous situation. Pushing for anti-globalization, the US is erecting protectionist barriers and destabilizing the world supply and industrial chains. It is wielding the big stick of unilateral sanctions, frantically containing and suppressing foreign companies, and attempting to artificially cut off the international flow of capital, technology, product, industry and personnel. All these pose a serious threat to world peace and development.

We urge the US side to reflect on its own problems, change course and do more in the interest of world peace and development, rather than going further down the path of unilateralism and hegemony.

lots of whataboutism from the UN�s chinese delegation.. disappointing

# ? Sep 24, 2020 22:46

Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

THS posted:

Chinese mission to UN rejects baseless accusations from the U.S.

lots of whataboutism from the UN�s chinese delegation.. disappointing

yah I think it looks weak whenever China does this stuff

# ? Sep 25, 2020 00:45

Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

# ? Sep 25, 2020 00:48

Dreddout: Oct 1, 2015; You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Antonymous posted:

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

Very interesting sir, would you like to super size your order of freedom fries?

# ? Sep 25, 2020 00:56

THS: Sep 15, 2017

Antonymous posted:

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

this seems like whataboutism

# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:04

Maximo Roboto: Feb 4, 2012

what would happen if that same Chinese student went to study in France?

# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:30

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

does anyone have a perspective on taiwannews.com.tw ? I keep seeing articles from them being shared on local social media because they seem like they pick up on a lot of anti-PRC sentiment, and they're still calling it the "Wuhan coronavirus" as of today, so I'm trying to discern if I'm reading the equivalent of the New York Post or something.

# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:34

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Antonymous posted:

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

I think if you're genuinely interested in global cooperation and resisting the US you don't care about "real power" (read: imperial power) in those terms anyway

# ? Sep 25, 2020 01:56

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Grapplejack posted:

Also lol at the idea of being able to afford having a child nowadays, let alone multiple, and especially lol at the moral failings you have to have to bring them into a world that is going to be destroyed by climate change

goon antinatalism is always funny

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Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/JimMillward/status/1309277639606251522?s=20

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Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/JimMillward/status/1309277639606251522?s=20

lol ah yes celebrities

# ? Sep 25, 2020 03:46

Antonymous: Apr 4, 2009

Sorry for my bad opinion w/r/t Chinese criticism of the USA

gradenko_2000 posted:

does anyone have a perspective on taiwannews.com.tw ? I keep seeing articles from them being shared on local social media because they seem like they pick up on a lot of anti-PRC sentiment, and they're still calling it the "Wuhan coronavirus" as of today, so I'm trying to discern if I'm reading the equivalent of the New York Post or something.

This along with Taipei times are the two big english language news sites in Taiwan and they are both blatantly 'green'. I think I know someone who writes for taiwan news. Taiwan News is mostly aimed at expats and westerners and trying to get news through that helps them understand Taiwan. Anything to do with China or foreign policy is very predictable because of the political goals of the paper, but it's not tabloid level.

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 04:22 on Sep 25, 2020

# ? Sep 25, 2020 04:11

GoutPatrol: Oct 17, 2009; *Stupid Babby*

Antonymous posted:

Sorry for my bad opinion w/r/t Chinese criticism of the USA

This along with Taipei times are the two big english language news sites in Taiwan and they are both blatantly 'green'.

RIP China Post. I think one goon used to write for it, if anyone wants to go back several years into the Taiwan thread.

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Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

mods pls change thread title to 'Judd Apatow has commented'

# ? Sep 25, 2020 04:41

animist: Aug 28, 2018

O/H in CIA HQ: "God dammit, we're gonna need to call in Apatow again"

# ? Sep 25, 2020 05:32

Professorjuggalo: Oct 22, 2019; by Cyrano4747

*seth rogan outside of Xinjiang* eheHEHEHE

# ? Sep 25, 2020 05:34

Malkina_: May 13, 2020; by Fluffdaddy

Homeless Friend posted:

im going to be laughing at this for a long time

DTT syndrome

# ? Sep 25, 2020 05:42

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

Antonymous posted:

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

amerifats still bitch about jane fonda going to vietnam 60 years ago

# ? Sep 25, 2020 05:49

uninterrupted: Jun 20, 2011

helpful reminder that whataboutism is a made up logical fallacy, and if it was real the greeks would have discovered it alongside democracy olive oil non sequitur and anal sex

also that complaining about whataboutism is, by definition, itself whataboutism

# ? Sep 25, 2020 06:13

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Some Guy TT posted:

i looked this story up on south korean media and the guys family is calling shenanigans they said that the governments changed their story several times about what happened to him in private and that no one has offered them any evidence at all that he was trying to defect

people who actually live in the area over all also find the story highly suspect because they insist its impossible to try to get to north korea from the yeonpyeong islands by swimming and that youd have to be a total nutter to even try its not a matter of distance the waves are too rough and anyone with any kind of local fishing experience like the alleged defector would know that

North Korea regrets killing S.Korean to control coronavirus amid public backlash

That does make it seem suspicious, but North Korea sent a letter of regret today over the shooting. They content that they only burned the guy's boat and not his body.

# ? Sep 25, 2020 08:30

Devils Affricate: Jan 22, 2010

uninterrupted posted:

helpful reminder that whataboutism is a made up logical fallacy, and if it was real the greeks would have discovered it alongside democracy olive oil non sequitur and anal sex

They did. They just had a different name for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

# ? Sep 25, 2020 10:03

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

OhFunny posted:

North Korea regrets killing S.Korean to control coronavirus amid public backlash

That does make it seem suspicious, but North Korea sent a letter of regret today over the shooting. They content that they only burned the guy's boat and not his body.

quote:

The soldiers fired more than 10 shots at the man, a South Korean fisheries official who went missing this week, after he did not reveal his identity and tried to flee, Suh said, citing the letter.

But the letter said they burned a floatation device he was using, according to their anti-virus manuals, and not his body.

�The troops could not locate the unidentified trespasser during a search after firing the shots, and burned the device under national emergency disease prevention measures,� Suh told a briefing, referring to the letter.

this is a very different story than the one we got yesterday if the guy was trying to defect it makes no sense that he didnt try to identify himself it sounds like what actually happened is the guy fell overboard in some kind of accident the military hosed up the search and rescue effort and when the guy made landfall he freaked the gently caress out when he realized he was on the wrong side of the country and the north koreans unsurprisingly concluded that he was a spy

the question now being begged is why the south korean military made up this weird as hell fanfiction my guess is its a combination of their trying to avoid liability since if the guy defected it was his own fault and also the usual antipathy toward north korea

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 22:49

dioxazine: Oct 14, 2004

Antonymous posted:

Sorry for my bad opinion w/r/t Chinese criticism of the USA

This along with Taipei times are the two big english language news sites in Taiwan and they are both blatantly 'green'. I think I know someone who writes for taiwan news. Taiwan News is mostly aimed at expats and westerners and trying to get news through that helps them understand Taiwan. Anything to do with China or foreign policy is very predictable because of the political goals of the paper, but it's not tabloid level.

Sorry I'm late, but this is absolutely correct.

You'll want to check out liberty times, taiwan.gov.tw, and ksnews. As for English language.. not sure of this one, but Taiwan Journal is distributed by the government, if a tad bit propagandy.

There's a handful run out of HK offices for whatever reason, as well.

# ? Sep 25, 2020 12:02

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