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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
most of the original sars sequelae went away by 5 years

5 years is a long rear end time but it isnt forever. and compared to legit og sars, the roni isnt as bad

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Illuminti posted:

Out of interest if any of you want to watch this and see if it presents any good points to you I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Maybe you already have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

And by hear your thoughts I obviously mean tell me what an unprecedented idiot I am and that I should gently caress off

You've already acknowledged that you're not posting in good faith, because you never do, so what good would it do to tell you to gently caress off? The thread already did that and yet here you are posting in bad faith again so obviously it wouldn't do any good

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

QuarkJets posted:

You've already acknowledged that you're not posting in good faith, because you never do, so what good would it do to tell you to gently caress off? The thread already did that and yet here you are posting in bad faith again so obviously it wouldn't do any good

In what way am I posting in bad faith? Unless by bad faith you mean I don't necessarily agree with you about everything?

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/covid-19-mutation-may-be-evolving-to-bypass-masks-hand-washing/

So apparently COVID is possibly evolving to bypass masks and hand-washing.

I don't know if this article is real...I hope it's not (I recall some NY-based article being a lie...or also being a front for that Rajneesh cult).

But if it is, of course it'd be America who found it first. In Texas of all places.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
new york post is the one to be embarrassed wiping your rear end with because its so poo poo

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran
The Post is not trustworthy even under ordinary circumstances. One of the few things we have going for us re: SARS-CoV-2 is that it mutates very slowly.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
better open 'er up imo

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Illuminti posted:


And by hear your thoughts I obviously mean tell me what an unprecedented idiot I am and that I should gently caress off

ok

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Illuminti posted:

In what way am I posting in bad faith? Unless by bad faith you mean I don't necessarily agree with you about everything?

Your video starts off by saying that 80% of people are already immune, something that's so false that it's difficult to believe how anyone could believe it. So which is it, are you arguing in bad faith or just unbelievably stupid?

I find it really funny that he says the UK's epidemic is over, and this video was published right as their second wave was begining lol. And the pandemic in the US basically hasn't behaved at all like this person says it should. Because his explanations are bullshit. They're not science-based, he's cherry-picking data to support a set of conclusions: that lockdowns don't work, that masks don't work, that there's no point in doing anything to prevent coronavirus infections, etc.

In conclusion, gently caress off illuminti you're the worst

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Europe is loving up as well:

Etc etc

Here's Finland:



You wouldn't know it walking on the streets. Hundreds of people lounging about malls, saw three face masks (not including mine) and zero distancing on my trip to the shops and back.

That 7 day trend is also misleading: we had 96 new cases today. 105 yesterday, which is the last vertical red line on the graph.

E:

Mithaldu posted:

Statistically that means that tourist couple killed someone.

https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status/1309440614413500416

How the gently caress are these assholes not being charged with literal crimes?

Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Sep 26, 2020

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
Edit for later

(Can you not delete?)

Illuminti fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Sep 26, 2020

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

QuarkJets posted:

Your video starts off by saying that 80% of people are already immune
drat, the video literally says that.

QuarkJets posted:

In conclusion, gently caress off illuminti you're the worst
:hmmyes:


Der Shovel posted:

How the gently caress are these assholes not being charged with literal crimes?
I'm not american and i never looked into that, so that's actually a good question.

Also good luck finland. :ohdear:

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Here in france we're on top of things. My friend imported his newest girlfriend from mexico and they've been waiting for her tests results for 9 days now. She's free to roam around Paris in the meantime of course.

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Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Mithaldu posted:

I'm not american and i never looked into that, so that's actually a good question.

Surely Iceland has to have some kind of "endangering public wellbeing" law.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Nam Taf posted:

The second point to make is that the number of new cases is one thing, but to get a fuller picture you also need to understand two other things: 1) how many tests are being done per day, and 2) how many tests that is relative to total population sizes. This is why it's really important to get tested and still get negative results back - they're not 'wasted', but rather give a good indication that you're truly catching all the positive cases. Critically, it means you catch the cases where people aren't really that sick and would otherwise still go about their daily business with a bit of the sniffles, who are likely also the ones who end up spreading it the most.

Yeah France attempted to massively increase their rate of testing in late August/early September which was a swell idea in theory but in practice they were completely unprepared for the increased workload so there were massive lines and huge backlogs:
https://twitter.com/matdemart/status/1300000212673593344
Article: https://www.thelocal.fr/20200909/covid-19-why-testing-one-million-people-a-week-is-giving-france-a-real-headache

7of7
Jul 1, 2008

Der Shovel posted:

How the gently caress are these assholes not being charged with literal crimes?

In some good news an rear end in a top hat in Maryland USA was tossed in jail for a year for holding several large gatherings.

Honestly I'm a little torn. On the one hand obviously law enforcement in the US is out of control and the carceral state is bad but it's nice to see someone facing some consequences from endangering the health of the public.

Usually the person endangering lives gets off scott free and a bunch of people who weren't even at the events end up dying, like that wedding in Maine.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
Thanks for reporting that idiot lol

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
thanks for your work :)



also, while the CDC page is still hosed, Fauci has come out for airborne, tho i'd love to know what the actual source of this video is:https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1309829079152111616

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Mithaldu posted:

thanks for your work :)



also, while the CDC page is still hosed, Fauci has come out for airborne, tho i'd love to know what the actual source of this video is:https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1309829079152111616

has Ding gone on some kind of bender and completely gone off the deep end? I feel like this tweets are completely insane now, whereas early on they seemed normal. Then he drifted into more and more 'click-bait-y' and has now progressed to write his tweets like a mommy blogger would for her chicken casserole recipe.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
I'd imagine seeing government sanctioned plague will do that for you

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Myocarditis can be some real bad poo poo, if you weren't sure

https://twitter.com/jcmccaffrey/status/1309599143321624576

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 26, 2020

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Captain Beans posted:

has Ding gone on some kind of bender and completely gone off the deep end? I feel like this tweets are completely insane now, whereas early on they seemed normal. Then he drifted into more and more 'click-bait-y' and has now progressed to write his tweets like a mommy blogger would for her chicken casserole recipe.

i don't recommend reading the thread, but the first tweet is a valid summary and i can't find the video elsewhere

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Captain Beans posted:

has Ding gone on some kind of bender and completely gone off the deep end? I feel like this tweets are completely insane now, whereas early on they seemed normal. Then he drifted into more and more 'click-bait-y' and has now progressed to write his tweets like a mommy blogger would for her chicken casserole recipe.

no, that's a true quote, Fauci said an emoji

Here's the full presentation: https://partners.mediasite.com/mediasite/Play/968f633a874c4f1a80c368496f49d4661d

Inept fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Sep 26, 2020

ickna
May 19, 2004

that tedious ivor cummings video that I am not quoting has been getting circulated around my work circles by several business owners, who are all looking for somewhere to direct their anger at our whole live events industry being shut down. they jump on anything that remotely supports their conclusions that the response to the pandemic has been overwrought and heavy-handed. last week's talking point was "a positive test without hospitalization is not technically a covid case", and two weeks ago they were all jumping on the "the CDC even says covid deaths are only 6% of what is documented". these same people are die hard conservatives who hate the ACA and scream socialism at anything that remotely benefits individuals in a meaningful way, but are writing all their congress critters to support corporate bail outs and extending the unemployment benefits. then they turn around and complain that the income their laid off workforce is getting from unemployment keeps people from wanting to return to work (because they won't pay people more than they were making with unemployment).

honestly I am glad that we're still mostly shut down because I don't believe that the people who go to concerts, shows and corporate events can be trusted to take even the most basic of precautions. all the precautions taken on the production side of things is merely performative surveys and temperature checks, and signing waivers and pinky swearing you have been in self isolation for the last two weeks. workers wear their mask during the check in process but once you're in and working, they come off and most of the manual labor in producing a live event requires people working together in close proximity with no practical way to maintain social distancing.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Mithaldu posted:

thanks for your work :)



also, while the CDC page is still hosed, Fauci has come out for airborne, tho i'd love to know what the actual source of this video is:https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1309829079152111616

So coronavirus is stored in the butt and balls?

TenTonHammer
Oct 3, 2003
Davidian

:dukedog:
poo poo, it's an STD now.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I just went for a bike ride and saw nobody on the trail wearing masks and yet another wedding reception going on at the park near my house. If you invite me to a wedding in the middle of this I'm telling you to go gently caress yourself no matter how closely related you are to me. Postpone that poo poo you assholes.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort
Can we just ban Dr. Dingle tweets from this thread already? If anything he's saying is worth posting, I'm sure it's been committed to the Internet by someone else I'm more likely to believe.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

explosivo posted:

I just went for a bike ride and saw nobody on the trail wearing masks and yet another wedding reception going on at the park near my house. If you invite me to a wedding in the middle of this I'm telling you to go gently caress yourself no matter how closely related you are to me. Postpone that poo poo you assholes.

Weddings in the UK are about to be limited to "only" 15 people, down from 30. I heard a boastful bride on the radio saying how she'd brought hers forward by a week so that they could still have everyone there, and how relieved she was. Hopefully she kept granny at home still, but I doubt it.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

Can we just ban Dr. Dingle tweets from this thread already? If anything he's saying is worth posting, I'm sure it's been committed to the Internet by someone else I'm more likely to believe.

there was nothing wrong with his last tweet and the only thing you have against him is a dislike of his writing style and without that being posted finding the video source would've been tough

maybe consider if you're spending energy getting upset about the things that matter in your life

LonesomeCrowdedWest
May 8, 2008
Is there a consensus on the best place to donate to for covid research? Won a little bit on a scratch ticket today and figured I might as well throw it towards the cause. Or would it be better to donate to local hospitals for PPE etc?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:

Is there a consensus on the best place to donate to for covid research? Won a little bit on a scratch ticket today and figured I might as well throw it towards the cause. Or would it be better to donate to local hospitals for PPE etc?

I hate to say it but probably Biden's campaign; when democrats are in office they tend to send a lot more funding to academia than the opposition. The current administration has cut a lot of funding to scientific research in general, in additional to creating a climate of denialism. Much like your scratch ticket you'd be risking a loss for multiplicative gains.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Melbourne Australia is doing so well with it's covid recovery that it's scrapping the curfew tomorrow, allowing a further 127,000 people back to work , loosening a bunch of other restrictions and bringing back primary school kids (classes 1-6) for in-person classes starting October 12.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-27/victoria-dan-andrews-unveils-melbourne-coronavirus-restrictions/12708002


The next round of eased restrictions will be in 3 weeks time, to give enough space for the current level of restrictions to settle in so the number crunchers can see how the spread of the virus is impacted by the current level of restrictions before we proceed.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Melbourne Australia is doing so well with it's covid recovery that it's scrapping the curfew tomorrow, allowing a further 127,000 people back to work , loosening a bunch of other restrictions and bringing back primary school kids (classes 1-6) for in-person classes starting October 12.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-27/victoria-dan-andrews-unveils-melbourne-coronavirus-restrictions/12708002


The next round of eased restrictions will be in 3 weeks time, to give enough space for the current level of restrictions to settle in so the number crunchers can see how the spread of the virus is impacted by the current level of restrictions before we proceed.

There is also talk of going more off the 14 day rolling average rather than strictly following the set out time table... which is a bit iffy, but as long as they do always keep to at least three weeks that should be okay,

Been a long shutdown and everything's looking pretty good right now, just really hoping it doesn't all gently caress up at the end.

Mrs. Sexual
Feb 3, 2020

ickna posted:

that tedious ivor cummings video that I am not quoting has been getting circulated around my work circles by several business owners, who are all looking for somewhere to direct their anger at our whole live events industry being shut down. they jump on anything that remotely supports their conclusions that the response to the pandemic has been overwrought and heavy-handed. last week's talking point was "a positive test without hospitalization is not technically a covid case", and two weeks ago they were all jumping on the "the CDC even says covid deaths are only 6% of what is documented". these same people are die hard conservatives who hate the ACA and scream socialism at anything that remotely benefits individuals in a meaningful way, but are writing all their congress critters to support corporate bail outs and extending the unemployment benefits. then they turn around and complain that the income their laid off workforce is getting from unemployment keeps people from wanting to return to work (because they won't pay people more than they were making with unemployment).

honestly I am glad that we're still mostly shut down because I don't believe that the people who go to concerts, shows and corporate events can be trusted to take even the most basic of precautions. all the precautions taken on the production side of things is merely performative surveys and temperature checks, and signing waivers and pinky swearing you have been in self isolation for the last two weeks. workers wear their mask during the check in process but once you're in and working, they come off and most of the manual labor in producing a live event requires people working together in close proximity with no practical way to maintain social distancing.

I read “that tedious “. And stopped reading

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IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Mrs. Sexual posted:

I read “that tedious “. And stopped reading

Maybe stop posting?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Mrs. Sexual posted:

I read “that tedious “. And stopped reading

[Black screen, with narrator voiceover]

Narrator: "But the moderators were deluged with reports and complaints begging them to take action. Surely they couldn't ignore it all?"

[Fade to scene: Burt logging in to check PMs and reports, some time ago. Clicks a PM in his inbox. Camera over his shoulder freezes on the text.]

PM text: "Dear Burt, is it really that tedious to take time review the evidence that Lowtax serially abuses women, here is a long list of complaints and facts."

Burt: <yawning> 'tedious, heh'. [Clicks delete after half a second reading.]

[Fade to black]

Narrator: "Apparently they could."

[End]

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Rust Martialis posted:

[Black screen, with narrator voiceover]

Narrator: "But the moderators were deluged with reports and complaints begging them to take action. Surely they couldn't ignore it all?"

[Fade to scene: Burt logging in to check PMs and reports, some time ago. Clicks a PM in his inbox. Camera over his shoulder freezes on the text.]

PM text: "Dear Burt, is it really that tedious to take time review the evidence that Lowtax serially abuses women, here is a long list of complaints and facts."

Burt: <yawning> 'tedious, heh'. [Clicks delete after half a second reading.]

[Fade to black]

Narrator: "Apparently they could."

[End]

Lmao

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

Marmaduke! posted:

Weddings in the UK are about to be limited to "only" 15 people, down from 30. I heard a boastful bride on the radio saying how she'd brought hers forward by a week so that they could still have everyone there, and how relieved she was. Hopefully she kept granny at home still, but I doubt it.

I am amazed at the number of people willing to possibly have a death on their conscience just so they can get married with a large party. Imagine granny infecting herself and dying because she wars at your wedding But knowing people, showing off that white dress and cashing in on all the gifts is what's really important, not protecting your loved ones.

Friends of ours called off their wedding and even apologized as if that was a bad thing but all the guests went " nah you are doing the right thing, we'll come party once this is over".

Yet my cousin wants to have her wedding on 10.10.2020 so bad they are still trying go through with an 85 guests celebration. We already said we won't be coming in July but apparently only 7 people total have cancelled, which includes me, the GF and my parents

I like my cousin but my disdain for carelessness in the pandemic has grown to an extent where I hope their wedding gets cancelled due to restrictions 3 days before the date for maximum impact so she sees how stupid an indoor celebration with that many people is.

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darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Marmaduke! posted:

Weddings in the UK are about to be limited to "only" 15 people, down from 30. I heard a boastful bride on the radio saying how she'd brought hers forward by a week so that they could still have everyone there, and how relieved she was. Hopefully she kept granny at home still, but I doubt it.

There's many criticisms of the Boris administration but I have to admit they're doing an incredible job of failing to convey exactly why the restrictions are being put in place or even bother to enforce them. There were some stats the other day indicating only one in ten people are self-isolating after a diagnosis which is loving unreal. They've basically spunked away the economy and a huge amount of political goodwill for zero lasting benefit.

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