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I know Lego isn't German, but there's something about American Indians in Germany: https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/germany-s-obsession-with-american-indians-is-touching-and-occasionally-surreal-11svYURPGEKcX1JAFPUP4g It wouldn't surprise me if the Indian sets had something to do with that "aggressive fondness."
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I was a kid in the 80ies and here in Germany Cowboys and Indians was (and still is I guess) a totally harmless semi-fantasy setting kids play with just like dinosaurs, ninjas or how they pretend to be princesses. It's a romanticized version of the real thing and I don't see anything bad in it to be honest.
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Oct 29, 2020 09:25
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To me at least it seems like a pretty tasteful set and the type of thing Lego should do more of. Certainly preferable to any sort of "Cowboys vs Indians" theme. Are the native american CMFs they have done recently questionable? I think they are great.
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Oct 29, 2020 09:42
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I think the issue was more about how the figures in that old set were bright red instead of standard Lego yellow. The set is also literally named “Red Indians”. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 10:04
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They aren't though. They are brownish red. You can see bright red in the canoe and especially the Lego logo. But either way, considering all of the crazy racist products of the olden days, toys that are meant to depict domestic native life seem like, good? Edit: as far as the titles go, Yeah maybe they didn't age that gracefully, but we are talking 40-50 years ago. It's not like it's malicious. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 10:17
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It doesn’t have to be malicious to still be problematic. If every Lego person you’ve made in the past has been yellow but suddenly the Native American figures in your new set are red for some reason, well... To Lego’s credit though, it looks like any Native American characters made from the 90’s onward have either been flesh-colored or just plain generic yellow.
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Oct 29, 2020 10:24
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I don't remember those minifigures at all! They look like Playmobil figures which were popular in my area in the mid-seventies.
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Oct 29, 2020 10:26
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King Kahuka from the Islanders series is probably the most problematic minifig of all tbh. There isn't anything malicious about the Wild West sets, the issue I would say it really doesn't give any historical context beyond the romanticized view of the frontier. It leaves a lot unsaid, that nowadays requires bears explanation about the actual relationship between "Cowboys and Indians"
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I think Americans should be more sensitive to it what with the whole history of genocide and forcing the survivors onto plots of land the white people didn't want (and forcing them to move again when plots turned out to be valuable). But Lego isn't a US company so maybe that changes the optics.  If they put out a native american or first nations series that celebrated their culture that might work better, but even then I think it's something corporations operating in north america should steer away from because then you get into the anti-appropriation crowd stirred up.
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I think it may be kinda similar to the handling of Nazi themes here in Germany. We are a lot stricter and more critical of depictions of Nazis and Nazi related imagery in media because of what happened in our country. In other countries laws and regulations are way more lenient about that. Likewise, our handling and depiction of themes involving Native Americans is differerent and more romanticized because this particular issue is further removed from us. To be clear: I don't mean to draw any political conclusions or weigh these topics against each other, I just want to give an example of possible effect of geographical distance on perception of certain themes.
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Literally A Person posted:
Lego LOVES toilets. I appreciate their commitment to putting them everywhere. The toilet and chamber pots in Barracuda Bay, oh my.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:King Kahuka from the Islanders series is probably the most problematic minifig of all tbh. There isn't anything malicious about the Wild West sets, the issue I would say it really doesn't give any historical context beyond the romanticized view of the frontier. It leaves a lot unsaid, that nowadays requires bears explanation about the actual relationship between "Cowboys and Indians" If anything, Lego was fairly Now sure, you could combine the two series and get that conflict, but they never endorsed it. Blue Moonlight fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 16:21
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The natives vs snakes wars were millennia of history and we just gloss over it like nothing
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Oct 29, 2020 16:54
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Not as popular as the emu wars.
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The some or other con exclusive black widow set is up on amazon. Mostly getting it to have another Sheriff Hopper minifig.
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Dogen posted:The some or other con exclusive black widow set is up on amazon. Mostly getting it to have another Sheriff Hopper minifig. Got a link?
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I forgot about that big dumbass hollow tree stump piece, LEGO seemed to think that was a worthy centerpiece for a little while.
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Don't forget the technic ones Most of the 90s and 00s technics sets were scaled or designed to fit these.
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The_Doctor posted:Got a link? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08DVVKDF4
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Spookydonut posted:Don't forget the technic ones These guys fit perfectly into the VW Camper (and maybe some of the others, I haven’t checked).
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One of the most egregiously overpriced sets I've ever seen, including the last would-be-comic-con-exclusive.
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Almost .20 per piece overpriced?? Never
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Carbohydrates posted:One of the most egregiously overpriced sets I've ever seen, including the last would-be-comic-con-exclusive. Yeah seriously, That and Bespin are both shockingly overpriced. I really don't like that Lego basically seems to have taken the perceived collectibility into account when pricing the MSRP.
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It's ok they're for scalpers
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Carbohydrates posted:One of the most egregiously overpriced sets I've ever seen, including the last would-be-comic-con-exclusive. I still bought one just so I can finally get a ComicCon set. E: They are all gone now
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kensei posted:I still bought one just so I can finally get a ComicCon set. I was considering getting one but just didn't like it enough after I saw it. The vehicle is blah and the Taskmaster minifigure is terrible. Is the part being used for the vehicle mirrors a minifigure-scale paint roller? Prophet of Nixon fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Oct 29, 2020 20:38
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pzy posted:It's ok they're for scalpers I bought the Bespin one and built it.
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Any news on the Nebulon-B?
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Is there a way to see all the titles this thread has had? I remember some of them being great.
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PriorMarcus posted:Is there a way to see all the titles this thread has had? I remember some of them being great. The best one was LEGOS MEGATHREAD, such a good troll. Do people buy/sell at all in this thread? I got sucked back in hard after a few years break and bought ~150lb of bulk over the past few weeks and will be shooting out a steady stream of old school space sets as I go through it trying to recoup some money. I've also got some partial sets that I probably won't bother rebuilding (6075-2 big yellow castle and 7181 UCS Tie Interceptor) that I'd like to move along after I figure out what all is missing.
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The speeder from the Mandalorian Battle Pack fits really well in the Razor Crest hold along with all the Mandalorians, in case anyone else wants to do what I've done and give Mando a squad
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Sloppy posted:The best one was LEGOS MEGATHREAD, such a good troll.
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Sloppy posted:The best one was LEGOS MEGATHREAD, such a good troll. Depending on how "partial" that TIE set is, you may have piqued my interest there.
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Speaking of buying, could anyone help me identify whether there is a lego version of this set? I’m a huge sucker for shunter trains, but I wasn’t able to find anything under that or diesel when searching. Trains are one of those things where I’d rather pay more for better wheels and couplers.
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OSU_Matthew posted:Speaking of buying, could anyone help me identify whether there is a lego version of this set? Closest is probably the cargo train? https://brickset.com/sets/60198-1/Cargo-Train E: Been on my mind: With the Crocodile Locomotive being released this year aimed at older audiences, I'm curious if they'll be doing more train stuff like it in the future. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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40410 Charles Dickens GWP was available in store today.
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ExParrot posted:Guess what I just found in my box collection, hidden away in my old BSB box... Are we going to talk about why that 4 year old has massive hands or blue eyeshadow?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:40410 Charles Dickens GWP was available in store today. I'm guessing this is the black friday gift? I didn't see it in the calendar. Weird that they would be giving it out so early.  E: also lol at the new xmas set already backordered past Xmas. Sigh, gonna have to go into the store to get it, I guess. Ugh. Waltzing Along fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Wonder why Legos online store constantly sells out of poo poo and you can just walk into their retail stores and buy anything. Like, I have never not been able to find a sold out set at my local Lego Stores. And it's always been like that even before the pandemic.
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veni veni veni posted:Wonder why Legos online store constantly sells out of poo poo and you can just walk into their retail stores and buy anything. Like, I have never not been able to find a sold out set at my local Lego Stores. And it's always been like that even before the pandemic. There aren't that many Lego stores. They are in population centers but, as an example, I have to drive 30 mins to get to the closest one. There are 3 others in the Bay Area and one near Sacramento. That's it, outside of the Socal Metro area. And CA is a big state. Nothing in the central valley from Bakersfield to Fresno. And it's like this all over the country. I believe there is one in Honolulu. But not on any of the other islands and Maui is a pretty affluent island. And so on...
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