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The Wandering Inn doesn't really start until the seven millionth word.
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I didnt really like book 2 or 3 either. It got bogged down in what I considered to be boring details at times. Ironically in the current book it tends to hold the same one or two threads for just as long, but does it in a way more interesting way.
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Oct 19, 2020 10:13
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Silynt posted:Hey no worries, everyone has a few utterly wrong opinions. I’m just glad it’s about something as silly as anime literature and not something important like Trump. You don’t like Trump, do you? I think this post is intended as light humor but let's not, thanks.
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Oct 19, 2020 23:53
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I won't ask for feedback this time, but if anyone is interested, I edited the serial I posted here a while ago to death and re-did a lot of the opening. It's becoming a weirdly successful project, for what it is? Not many read it, but the people who do are very enthusiastic, which I guess is the most you can hope for unless you write something from the holy trinity of proglit, or at least with a lot of action. I'm still following Pith, and am in a weird place with it where I'm enjoying more and more how it handles its characters and their outlooks, but am feeling more and more weird about how it presents its politics. The narrative about how people wanting to change a corrupt system will inevitably be driven to acts of cruelty and callousness on the same level because that's just how the world is feels out of synch with the current real-world moment, and I've been kinda waiting for another shoe to drop that's not happened yet.
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Oct 20, 2020 12:49
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PoorWeather posted:I won't ask for feedback this time, but if anyone is interested, I edited the serial I posted here a while ago to death and re-did a lot of the opening. It's becoming a weirdly successful project, for what it is? Not many read it, but the people who do are very enthusiastic, which I guess is the most you can hope for unless you write something from the holy trinity of proglit, or at least with a lot of action. Yeah I know exactly what you mean. The authors note at the end of that chapter had me absolutely bust up laughing. The author is going back to one chapter every other week to free up time to organize for (presumably) Joe Biden, which is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. I have a big comment on that chapter explaining my thoughts but it's so funny that the serial absolutely nails the feeling of being poor and desperate and angry but still believing everything you've been told, and then to have it come out that its really way less nuanced than I thought is very funny. And also disappointing, but whatever. Never have I gone faster from assuming an author is a fellow communist to hoping they never mention politics again.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:21
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Wait, isn't Pith written by a goon?
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Oct 20, 2020 22:48
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Cicero posted:Wait, isn't Pith written by a goon? It is, yeah. To be clear, I'm not trying to poo poo on it or anything - it could easily turn around and end up being a more nuanced take on this stuff that hasn't fully come together yet, and overall it's still a really well-written story, even if it kind of flirts with being misery porn at times. I'm just a bit weirded out by the direction as it appears at the moment. I can see what it's probably trying to do with Commonplace and their moral ambiguity, but it ends up coming across as pretty nihilistic. Then again, it's not like a story having somewhat different politics to me is fundamentally damning, although in this case it is a very central part of the work. PoorWeather fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Oct 21, 2020 00:07
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There was probably precisely one web serial with outright revolutionary Marxist politics. I don't think anyone here ever read it. 
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Oct 21, 2020 08:46
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I'm just a raging loving communist so I exist in this weird place where reading stuff from someone who obviously doesnt know anything like, say, John Ringo, is either easily ignorable or unintentionally very funny (john ringo is a republican who's ideal world is basically wartime soviet communism). But when the author obviously has some material understanding of the world but takes it in a different direction than me, it gets a very different reaction. I dunno. But most importantly Pith is still my top 3 web novels. It does a fantastic job of making Wes look like a sociopathic piece of poo poo from the outside, but from his perspective suddenly everything he does makes complete sense to do. It's the character writing being bad that makes me hate most web novels. I've read enough bad genre fiction, I'm here for the characters, which is why Pith owns even though the author is apparently a kool-aid drinker. Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Oct 21, 2020 12:12
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:There was probably precisely one web serial with outright revolutionary Marxist politics. Link?
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Oct 21, 2020 17:46
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PoorWeather posted:I won't ask for feedback this time, but if anyone is interested, I edited the serial I posted here a while ago to death and re-did a lot of the opening. It's becoming a weirdly successful project, for what it is? Not many read it, but the people who do are very enthusiastic, which I guess is the most you can hope for unless you write something from the holy trinity of proglit, or at least with a lot of action. this is a really good serial and i will add it to my recommends
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Oct 21, 2020 18:50
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all things considered this feels like the place to post this while struggling with not being able to write myself, I designed a game around smashing other canons' toys together and also people filling in the blanks for each other, a game about writing where you don't actually have to write anything if you don't want to. It borrows a poo poo ton from E-feds and the structure of pro wrestling in general, with me basically acting as head booker and each "fighter" being handled by a different writer anyway: we finished the first episode, It Lives! to clarify, me and like nine other people wrote this; the ideas were 90% everyone else, I just typed it out and made sure it stayed consistent. I think it worked out pretty well, personally, but I'm curious what people not on the inside think. The current plan is to have one of these ready every sunday, if it stays fun and enough people can stay involved
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Oct 26, 2020 04:28
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In Threads of Destiny news, good boy Gan Flexington is back and has german suplexed an angry pine tree.
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Oct 30, 2020 01:46
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Katalepsis posted:The black notebook did not look the part; it could have come from the stationary shelves at Tesco. I expected a mage’s darkest secrets to be bound in human leather, or glowing, or written on stone. Then again, I could hardly criticise. I kept the secrets of reality-rewriting mathematics in spiral bound flip-pads from the university’s academic supplies shop.
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Nov 1, 2020 15:59
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I've only read a few chapters of this but so far this one seems interesting: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/28808/the-illusionary-six-six-chances/chapter/542088/19-part-i-32-morello-chorus It's literally Sense8 except with just 6 people and set in a fantasy world. But the mechanics of it are exactly the same as Sense8. Narratively, it hits a lot of the same beats too, and it even has a girl who is secretly in a fight club. Argue fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 07:40
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pracguide: lmao is Cat getting Warlord? that's gonna make a mess of Praes
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Nov 10, 2020 11:38
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mossyfisk posted:pracguide: lmao is Cat getting Warlord? that's gonna make a mess of Praes I doubt it's that I expect it's going to be Arbiter, or a subset - perhaps Judge. A name with the authority over and power over named on a meta level, it very neatly mirrors her growth over the whole of the story. That she had such an impact on the Grey Pilgrim as a side-effect is very telling that whatever name she is growing into is a god drat powerful one.
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Nov 10, 2020 12:55
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tithin posted:I doubt it's that The thing is that this is basically the thing The Wandering Bard is angling for so i'm not sure she'd take that if given the choice.
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Nov 10, 2020 14:16
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Tzarnal posted:The thing is that this is basically the thing The Wandering Bard is angling for so i'm not sure she'd take that if given the choice. Isn't the Bard angling for something else? I thought they had a conversation a while back and Cat hums a different song than what she's hearing and it appeared that the Bard wanted that.
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Nov 10, 2020 18:15
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I have started uploading arena arcadia results to royal road, for those that find that easier to get into than a forum
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Nov 10, 2020 20:20
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asur posted:Question, but maybe minor spoilers from a while ago: The Fox song was an indication that Cat was a claimant on the Bard's name. That's the why the Bard growled about the hard way when she woke up; she thought she finally had someone to take her place in the trap, by dying to her villanous successor. Cat lied and said she was hearing Girl Who Climbed the Tower, which would make Cat a claimant for Dread Empress instead. (Not that she isn't!)
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Nov 11, 2020 06:06
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Saliss continues to be the absolute best character in TWI. Just fuckin amazing.
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Nov 11, 2020 07:09
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The Shortest Path posted:Saliss continues to be the absolute best character in TWI. Just fuckin amazing. Agreed 100%. They are the perfect 'I give no fucks' character.
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Nov 11, 2020 09:01
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Onievowns.
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Nov 11, 2020 09:03
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Practical Guide to Evil Spoilers You know how the last story arc started with almost adopting a villain kid as an apprentice. Well. Creation is Insisting. Amadeus and Wekesa were two villains, the Squire and The Apprentice. They became friends and were two members of The Calamities. A fairly unique band of Villains that was notably actually genuinely friends. Together they reshaped the very nature of Praes and Callow. They became The Black Knight and The Warlock and apprenticed and raised two young kids. Catherine Foundling was an orphan from Callow made Squire by The Black Knight and the first named friend she made was Masego who was Apprentice. Two members of the Woe. A fairly unique band of Villains that was notably good friends. Together they are involved in events that are shaking up the whole continent and may change the very nature of Named society. Arthur Foundling is an orphan Squire from Callow, sort of stuck with Catherine as a source of inspiration and liege. Who appears to have some friendly chemistry with Sapan The Apprentice. Sapan who has been shadowing Adjudant and has been taught at least a few things by The Heirophant. And Catherine just stood on a hill and showed both of them something incredibly impressive, bantered with her friend and said this: > “It’s a big world,” I said. “There’s more than one pair of shoulders keeping it from falling. You don’t have to do it all alone.”
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Nov 13, 2020 10:47
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LLSix posted:Link? I am guessing they are talking about The Solstice War.
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Nov 14, 2020 21:01
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the current wandering inn arc that just ended is so good jesus. and practical guide is building to what is hopefully an equally amazing climax.
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Nov 18, 2020 09:01
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Wandering Inn (non-patreon): oh, right, the answer's yes this time.
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Nov 18, 2020 10:33
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TWI patreon: Ahahahahahahahah get hosed Persua. For real though that chapter was awesome.
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Nov 18, 2020 11:00
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The Shortest Path posted:TWI patreon: Ahahahahahahahah get hosed Persua. Oh my god I can't believe the whole of TWI was just a setup for a retelling of The Tortoise and The Hare Argue fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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Nov 18, 2020 18:14
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I can't even be mad that you hosed up the spoiler.
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Nov 18, 2020 18:27
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I actually think that Catherine might be wrong in her concerns about mentoring Arthur being narrative suicide (and she kind of has to be, since it's really obvious that she's going to become a mentor whether she wants to or not). I have a feeling that the generation of Named who come into their Names during the war against Keter are going to be dramatically different from their predecessors, because they're developing in an environment where they're directly interacting with villainous Named in non-hostile ways. At the very least, they won't end up with the same dogmatic opposition to villainous Named as their predecessors. IIRC Apprentice is a heroine and is being mentored by Masego, for example. I think the scene with Catherine giving them the almost uncharacteristically uplifting talk about people being stronger when they work together (and them obviously being very influenced by it) might be reflective of the attitude they end up developing in the future. Also, how does Catherine's logic not also apply to Masego here? Catherine isn't a Knight, so the "Squire kills their mentor Knight" story doesn't apply, and if it's simply a "student kills villainous mentor" situation then Masego would also be vulnerable. I also think that, due to that being a villainous story, it might not apply if the student is on the side of Good (heroes mentoring under villains isn't really an established narrative in their world as far as I know). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Nov 18, 2020 |
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Nov 18, 2020 22:04
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Ytlaya posted:I actually think that Catherine might be wrong in her concerns about mentoring Arthur being narrative suicide (and she kind of has to be, since it's really obvious that she's going to become a mentor whether she wants to or not). I have a feeling that the generation of Named who come into their Names during the war against Keter are going to be dramatically different from their predecessors, because they're developing in an environment where they're directly interacting with villainous Named in non-hostile ways. At the very least, they won't end up with the same dogmatic opposition to villainous Named as their predecessors. IIRC Apprentice is a heroine and is being mentored by Masego, for example. I think the scene with Catherine giving them the almost uncharacteristically uplifting talk about people being stronger when they work together (and them obviously being very influenced by it) might be reflective of the attitude they end up developing in the future. It’s not just that a villainous mentee could kill their mentor, it’s an observation that mentor figures tend to die in general. Take Obi-Wan, for instance: he sacrificed himself so that his protege could escape and save the world. It was both a tragic turning point in Luke’s story and a fitting conclusion to Obi-Wan’s.
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Nov 18, 2020 23:04
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blastron posted:It’s not just that a villainous mentee could kill their mentor, it’s an observation that mentor figures tend to die in general. Take Obi-Wan, for instance: he sacrificed himself so that his protege could escape and save the world. It was both a tragic turning point in Luke’s story and a fitting conclusion to Obi-Wan’s.
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Nov 18, 2020 23:25
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The Shortest Path posted:TWI patreon: Ahahahahahahahah get hosed Persua. It was real good.
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Nov 19, 2020 05:50
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blastron posted:It’s not just that a villainous mentee could kill their mentor, it’s an observation that mentor figures tend to die in general. Take Obi-Wan, for instance: he sacrificed himself so that his protege could escape and save the world. It was both a tragic turning point in Luke’s story and a fitting conclusion to Obi-Wan’s. Yeah, but in that case why isn't she worried about Masego tutoring Apprentice? Also, isn't Black an example of how you can totally avoid dying after being a mentor? She talks about it like it's essentially a death sentence if she lets herself fall into that role at all, but we have a prominent counterexample where her very own mentor didn't die. edit: The one potentially meaningful difference I could think of is that she would be mentoring Arthur in the midst of a conflict they're both involved in, which wasn't the case with Black. So there would be more opportunities for her to die as part of Arthur's story. And I guess you could argue that Masego is unlikely to transition from "teacher" to "mentor" (in the sense of the relationship being deeper than just "he teaches her some magic") but it's not like Masego doesn't also form bonds with people. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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Nov 20, 2020 05:27
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, but in that case why isn't she worried about Masego tutoring Apprentice? Also, isn't Black an example of how you can totally avoid dying after being a mentor? Cat had Black and Captain as mentor figures in the Woe. Captain died early, though not for her. Black almost died multiple times. Once he didn't die because she decided to only stab him non lethally. Masego lost both his parents arguably at least in part because they were trying to save him. That's just facts though, the problem is that Catherine was taught by Black, she doesn't see the world in the same way he does but its still just as focused on Stories. This is her greatest strength, its also one of her weaknesses. It blinds her to options, she sees the world through the stories she's been taught and the ones she has recognized as ongoing. She avoids the ones she thinks would be dangerous. Like redemption storylines. She's part of forging a new story, the story of a legacy of named bands. And if she ever grasps that she might change her mind. Or she might just decide to continue this mentorship once she figures out she's in it anyway because aborting it is almost certainly worse than committing.
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Nov 20, 2020 10:12
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Tzarnal posted:Cat had Black and Captain as mentor figures in the Woe. Captain died early, though not for her. Black almost died multiple times. Once he didn't die because she decided to only stab him non lethally. Masego lost both his parents arguably at least in part because they were trying to save him. well, to be fair, part of the story of the calamities and the woe is that the calamities started dying when the woe started rising up. the only reason amadeus isnt dead is honestly probably because he lost his name and became a claimant to the tower.
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Nov 21, 2020 19:32
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it's a cool library, lozzie from katalepsis. they just don't appreciate it.
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Poor apes, everyone should get hype about the tentacle library of madness. I'm also genuinely astonished that Evelyn is apparently top-y, I never would've guessed. Speaking of being surprised I got bored and ran a dispersion plot on Katalepsis, and it is downright shameful that the word 'horny' only occurs once in the entire corpus: 
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