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From USPOLquote:As Trump Reels, Fox News Has a Message for Viewers: Stick With Us
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Jan 10, 2021 18:02
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BiggerBoat posted:From USPOL  Hell, a state actor like China, Russia, or even Iran could host, develop, and maintain the platform on behalf of Trump as a way to put the kibosh on the US Empire. Regardless of who hosts it, I think what we've seen with the Twitter ban and migration to Parler/Gab/Telegram is that it would absolutely be used as a vector to coordinate domestic terrorism in the US. His followers don't care about any hypocrisy in this scenario, they are 100% all aboard the Trump Train.The computer toucher in me would marvel at the clusterfuck that would be the launching of a Trump 24/7 platform while also being absolutely horrified that there is any market for it after Jan 6th.  Happy New Year, goons! 
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Jan 10, 2021 19:38
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https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1348599278877470721
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Jan 11, 2021 18:02
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OH poo poo, CONSEQUENCES! SHUT UP GUYS NO MORE. Yeah they can go gently caress themselves sideways with a rusty cactus. If the coup had been successful they'd be tongue-bathing the new Fuhrer's taint.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:21
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I've never listened to AM radio but had to take a drive with one of our executives to fix his PC at home. That's all he listens to and I can see how people become zombies it's an alternate reality. This was shortly after the election and every caller was talking about how it was obviously stolen - it's funny the NPC meme was the right's favorite because they all sounded the same. They all had a script they had to angrily get through.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:41
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I was curious who falls under Cumulus Media, from a quick google search the only three names I can find definitively are Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and Dan Bongino. I sort of feel like Mark Levin will pull a "I will not let the truth be silenced!" move and force them to fire him, he can probably get picked up elsewhere, but I doubt the other two could.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:53
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Course my local Limbaugh ripoff, the first call in compares it to the reichstag fire saying its a false flag.
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Jan 12, 2021 00:54
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Are any other right wing media darlings getting the boot from Twitter of FB? Among many other things I'm a bit frosted by the fact that these people trot out the ludicrous line that ANTIFA DID IT!
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Jan 12, 2021 01:00
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whats the name of that other giant regressive media network that was buying up and writing scipts for local TV news stations, Clear something???
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Jan 12, 2021 01:04
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PhazonLink posted:whats the name of that other giant regressive media network that was buying up and writing scipts for local TV news stations, Clear something??? clearchannel but I think they were bought out by sinclair
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Jan 12, 2021 01:07
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PhazonLink posted:whats the name of that other giant regressive media network that was buying up and writing scipts for local TV news stations, Clear something??? You're probably thinking of Sinclair Broadcast Group. iHeartMedia, formerly ClearChannel, is generic corporate radio. They're garbage but it's impersonal big-business evil instead of Trumpy movement conservatism. e: Despera posted:clearchannel but I think they were bought out by sinclair Nah, iHeartMedia is its own company, and they're pretty different from Sinclair. The Sinclair vision of media is a bunch of market-specific Fox Newsish TV anchor teams, charismatic and friendly local figures, all offering correct thought and praise to Jesus and Trump every night. Like Fox News, they're a far-right political organization that sells ads to pay the bills. The ClearChannel/iHeartMedia vision is one guy at an old computer in a cheap city, putting together a handful of music playlists that will be broadcast out over every single iHeartMedia transmitter across the country, with at least 50% of airtime going towards advertisements. Like almost every other corporate radio group, they're an advertising company that plays music to get you to listen to the ads. Taking open political stances might cut into the number of listeners and reduce the almighty revenue line. Space Gopher fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Jan 12, 2021 01:07
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Zwabu posted:Are any other right wing media darlings getting the boot from Twitter of FB? Among many other things I'm a bit frosted by the fact that these people trot out the ludicrous line that ANTIFA DID IT! Imagine being Babbitt dying for the cause and being called Antifa
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Jan 12, 2021 01:08
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Space Gopher posted:You're probably thinking of Sinclair Broadcast Group. https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/980175772206993409
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Jan 12, 2021 01:14
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ah thanks for the super cut.Space Gopher posted:You're probably thinking of Sinclair Broadcast Group. mmmmmmm yeah no that super cut has a lot of classic regressive tropes.
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Jan 12, 2021 01:17
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Twelve by Pies posted:In the interest of hating myself I looked to see what Rush was up to on Friday. Don't forget all those years of calling Chelsea Clinton a dog.
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Jan 12, 2021 01:19
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got on the line wish me luck
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Jan 12, 2021 01:19
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I'm glad Rush found a horrible way to die. Always worried he'd OD or something. It's nice knowing he'll be suffering until his last day.PhazonLink posted:mmmmmmm yeah no that super cut has a lot of classic regressive tropes. That supercut is Sinclair not iHeartradio
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Jan 12, 2021 01:25
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PhazonLink posted:ah thanks for the super cut. The super cut is Sinclair. iHeartMedia/Clear Channel is a different corporation (though after they sold off all their TV channels Sinclair bought some)
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Jan 12, 2021 01:26
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they asked if i was on drugs oh well
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Jan 12, 2021 01:50
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quote:RUSH: Yeah, we were up for about three months there on Twitter. Let’s see. October, November… Yeah, 3-1/2 months, and I know a lot of you were very, very upset with me when we went on Twitter officially. We had a couple of Twitter accounts out there. We didn’t use ’em much. But it was all part of revving and up gearing up for a big push. Hopefully this portends his imminent demise. Keep in mind that through this one Limbaugh is basing his entire context of the Twitter ban from an article written by a conservative rag. The author in this piece purposefully only quotes two Trump tweets and then goes "if you look at these two specific tweets instead of everything leading up to the what happened at the Capitol this is clear evidence that Big Tech hates conservatives". Limbaugh is basing his entire rant on just this article. Incredibly disingenuous and lazy, but this is par for the course. quote:RUSH: So what does Twitter think that Trump tweeted that constitutes the risk of further incitement of violence? Now, “because this is rarely done by any of the social media platforms when they ban someone,” they never explain it. They just ban ’em. But in Trump’s case, they felt it necessary to explain why they had to ban his account because you might be inspired to blow things up. “Twitter identified two tweets made by the president on January 8 that resulted in their decision to ban him.”  Why won't the media consider all the times that Democrats made an insurrection
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Jan 12, 2021 04:56
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quote:Trump even said “peacefully.” Guys Trump called for peacefully overthrowing the US government you can't blame him for what happened. But yeah it's the same disingenuous weasel poo poo the right always pulls. "These Congresspeople are traitors! They're destroying the country! They're trying to screw you because they think you'll sit there and take it! They're stealing the election and America will burn if you let them!" *people attempt to stop Congress by force* "Whoa hey I never called for any violence against Congress! I can't believe anyone would imply that I had anything to do with what happened! I don't know where they got the idea they should attempt a coup but it certainly wasn't from me!"
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Jan 12, 2021 05:15
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It's even stupider than that. The right-wing spehere has been calling any and all Trump rally "peacefull protests" as a sort of magic incantation that gives them a free pass to ignore local Covid rules. It's practically a reflex they've developped over the last few months. "Oh we are talking about a gathering of people, so we better namedrop 'Peaceful protest' every other minute."
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Jan 12, 2021 05:32
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Twelve by Pies posted:I was curious who falls under Cumulus Media, from a quick google search the only three names I can find definitively are Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin and Dan Bongino. The truth here is actually so much sweeter. He opened the show basking in the attention he was getting from mainstream outlets. He then said, "I will not be silenced." After that he pivoted into, "Nothing else can be done. The results have been certified. The next battle is in 2 years or 4 years." He bent the loving knee and it continues to be hilarious. He's bent the knee so many times it's a comedy routine at this point.
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Jan 12, 2021 12:31
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kik2dagroin posted:Limbaugh See, this cherry picking poo poo is what's so dangerous. About 30-40% of the country just sits around and WAITS to be told what to think about anything. I'd bet good money that a larger percentage of goon watched Trump's entire speech last week than Limbaugh listeners. I bet we read more of his tweets. These people like to receive their news through a filter. A lot of people do but I've found it always comes as a surprise to my conservative coworkers when I tell them I think CNN and MSNBC suck and that I don't pay much attention to them. Or that I dislike Nancy Pelosi and didn't want Biden as my nominee. It's just never for the reasons they think it is. Rush intentionally aired that sentence about "peacefully marching up to the Capitol" and intentionally left out ALL the other "these fuckers are stealing your country, don't be weak and the clock is ticking" poo poo. They'll do it in reverse too and play something Obama said like "you didn't build that" devoid of context and it suddenly becomes an RNC slogan. This is how RWM works Corporate mainstream media is often guilty of the same poo poo but it's nothing like what Kik2dagroin posts regularly. Hannity and FOX & Friends have had a direct pipeline to the White House for 4 years specifically because they let Trump's bullshit air unchallenged. Conservatives think that this is what Anderson Cooper and Chris Hayes do and that Bill Maher or Jon Stewart are just like Tucker Carlson. It's always projection and accusing the other side of what you, yourself, are doing. Look at McConnell's bald faced lie about the $2000 stimulus being "socialism for the rich" when the rich were specifically excluded from receiving it. But half the country doesn't even know that. They just hear "well of course Mitch hates socialism" TL/DR: I wish Limbaugh would shut up and die from cancer already
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Jan 12, 2021 16:43
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This is the frustrating thing to me, too, that getting their news through the RWM filter lets them believe stuff that's easily disproven. Access Hollywood/"Locker Room Talk" is a prime example. I'll bet the majority of these Trump worshippers have STILL never heard that recording in its entirety. And it's fine with them, because... they don't really WANT to hear it. GOP voters are like the wife who being cheated on who doesn't WANT to ask what the phone numbers in the jacket pocket, the unfamiliar lipstick on the collar, the strange text that he just got, are all about. It would disrupt their comfortable situation. They know deep down inside but they don't WANT to know. I just posted on another forum about how there hasn't been any real briefing in a week about the attack from Trump, DoD, FBI etc. and the immediate response from one of the resident RW trolls was "terrorist attack? Looked like a false flag to me!", and I responded posting the 90 minute "As It Happened" Youtube, asked them to watch that and tell me how it was Antifa, and also challenged them to respond to my original post about the lack of any kind of briefing implying all those high levels are either complicit or non functioning and out of comission. Crickets.
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Jan 12, 2021 17:47
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Zwabu posted:
Did they watch it? I've also seen some selectively edited video of the insurrection with "looks peaceful to ME!" comments. And I don't think that "filter" can really be emphasized enough. Remember how shocked people were at the 1st Biden/Trump debate? Many people had legit never seen Donald behave that way. Then again, that was mainly the detached folks, not the conservative "I only watch FOX and listen to Rush" types. Those people get a steady diet of "get a load of what Pelosi said" while flat just ignoring people like McConnell or Steve King. Like, even on 1/6, I mostly just watched RW livestreams so don't loving tell me false flag, media bias and how it was Antifa. I saw it happen unedited. Is it Antifa planning all the armed protests in all 5 states? poo poo, just go read the freep thread if you want an unfiltered look at what these morons think. You can TELL what they absorb and where they get their information.
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Jan 12, 2021 18:03
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Zwabu posted:
I think they're also like the MLM "Independent Business Owners" who keep dry humping that poo poo years after running themselves broke because they've been taught to isolate themselves from friends and family (dream stealers), any news or media (liars) and to ONLY listen to their upline (who love and believe in them) and other people in the business if they want to be successful. They're heavily republican and conservative and the techniques are similar across the board (only trust us). Not making any money? Work harder, you're lazy, too negative, etc. It's certainly not by design to enrich the Amway corporation or anything. That's crazy talk. Or that TV preacher that says if you only send 20 more dollars, you'll be rich and your cancer will go away. He'd never lie because he's a man of god, you see. You must not have been watching the show hard enough or praying the right way like these thousands of people in this stadium.
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Jan 12, 2021 18:15
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And of course Ken Matthews on Rush today was talking about how "People just want to know the truth. It's not about what Trump says or does, that's all a distraction, the mainstream media is distracting you from the real issues. If I may talk to the pretend President-Elect Biden, wouldn't you like to show everyone the real voting numbers? Wouldn't you want to hold them up and display them for all to see? But no you have to show the fake numbers to keep people in line."
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Jan 12, 2021 19:12
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BiggerBoat posted:Did they watch it? What do you think? Of course not.
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Jan 12, 2021 19:29
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Cross posting from USPOL but listen to these people and tell me who they sound like and where they learn all the poo poo they think they know? Seriously. This is what all of AM radio sounds like. It's advertising disguised as propaganda - or maybe the other way around. I'll leave it the way I wrote it. I really need to get to work on my Advertising Thread/OP but it's a really complex subject, at least in my head, but one I absolutely can not shake. Not in a Bill Hicks way but more of a "please disable your ad blocker to first learn about Pepsi, Chevrolet and Viagra before we explain how an insurrection took place in your country" sort of way.
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Jan 12, 2021 20:55
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BiggerBoat posted:Cross posting from USPOL but listen to these people and tell me who they sound like and where they learn all the poo poo they think they know? I would love a dedicated ad thread in DND. One of the classes I took for my minor was a 20th Century American Pop Culture class that had a heavy focus on advertising in media, it's fascinating stuff op.
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Jan 12, 2021 21:03
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BiggerBoat posted:About 30-40% of the country just sits around and WAITS to be told what to think about anything. Some people overall are just wired that way, some people are lazy, some people have no time to think because they have a whole heap of other stressors put on them by just trying to get by in society. We've witnessed this so many times over the past few years, typically on a Friday when something incredibly damaging about the Trump administration would drop, and there would be 2-3 days of utter silence. Reporters would point out "well, here are 3 other cases where this exact same thing happened" and you'd have silence on the usual rightwing outlets while they put together a narrative. The weekend interviews would be all over the place, and then on Monday they'd all start to repeat the same poo poo over and over again once skeezy fucks like Frank Luntz have ran through all the focus testing and whatnot to get the most bang for the buck with their lies. Remember the era leading up to Trump's impeachment? They got loving caught doing it by forwarding talking points to the wrong e-mail address. The right wing was completely flatfooted for a while and it was incredible watching them trying to come up with something. They just posted through it and Trump wriggled his way out of conviction during his impeachment trial. Look at what mealy mouthed poo poo they're coming up with in the House and Senate for why it's okay if a Republican foments insurrection. "Well, it's so close to the end of his term..." And people go along with it without batting an eye after decades of being indoctrinated about the ideal of America, Democracy, fairness, etc. This country is such a loving sham and it's open for everyone to see. If I ever have kids and they ask me what it was like to live through this I'll probably collapse into a rage singularity.
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Jan 12, 2021 23:07
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Doctor Nutt posted:I would love a dedicated ad thread in DND. One of the classes I took for my minor was a 20th Century American Pop Culture class that had a heavy focus on advertising in media, it's fascinating stuff op. I'm working on an OP but get stuck in spider webs of effect and logic. The deeper I go into thinking about it, I realize how much it permeates loving everything we do in this country and that nothing happens without it. So when I begin to write, it kind of spirals and I wind up sounding like lunatic talking to their therapist about black helicopters and poo poo. *NOW A WORD FROM MY SPONSOR...THIS POST IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY MY DEVIANT ART ACCOUNT AND YOUTUBE CHANNEL...PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE TO SEE, READ, HEAR OR EXPERIENCE ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING* >>>Skip Ad Several people seem to be into the idea and have experience with the industry so I'll give it a go soon. I just need to write something coherent and on point that strips out at least most of my mental illness issues on the subject that largely view the whole thing as an arms race of sorts.
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Jan 12, 2021 23:18
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kik2dagroin posted:Definitely, but my gut feeling is it's probably higher than that. Everyone is susceptible to propaganda which is why it is so insidious. And studies have shown that it's incredibly effective even on people who think they're too smart for that poo poo. People like me who go out of their way not to watch commercials and like to think they're above it all. What RWM has managed to do is to turn "news" into a giant commercial that they typically label "entertainment" when they get called out for false reporting. To my eyes, (and I hope this makes sense) it seems as if they've captured the audience that watches the Super Bowl every year JUST to watch all the ads. Now WHY anyone would do that has always baffled me but it feeds back into itself. The Super Bowl has the most expensive ads because so many people watch the Super Bowl but so many people watch the Super Bowl JUST for the ads and it's one hell of a weird feedback loop that I'm hosed if I can understand. poo poo: Double post. See? I told you I was nuts about this topic.
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Jan 12, 2021 23:53
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Despera posted:they asked if i was on drugs oh well Who did you call? And were you?
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Jan 13, 2021 00:47
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm working on an OP but get stuck in spider webs of effect and logic. The deeper I go into thinking about it, I realize how much it permeates loving everything we do in this country and that nothing happens without it. So when I begin to write, it kind of spirals and I wind up sounding like lunatic talking to their therapist about black helicopters and poo poo. Btw, if it helps make you feel more comfortable, the mod team has been discussing trying to encourage more people to post threads in DND without worrying too much about feeling like they have drop a carefully cited research paper in the op. Not to say that as much effort as you want to give isn't appreciated, but it's a great subject for discussion and if you want to come up with a solid few paragraphs that can kick off discussion, that's a great start. You can even edit the op later if you think of absolute must reads that come up. tl;dr 
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Jan 13, 2021 01:31
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The reason people watch the Superbowl for just the ads is that somewhere along the line, it basically turned into a film festival for corporate-produced short films. I share your feelings more generally about the influence of advertising on our culture, but I don't think the Superbowl is a very good example of the harms it can actually cause.
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Jan 13, 2021 01:45
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PT6A posted:The reason people watch the Superbowl for just the ads is that somewhere along the line, it basically turned into a film festival for corporate-produced short films. I share your feelings more generally about the influence of advertising on our culture, but I don't think the Superbowl is a very good example of the harms it can actually cause. It's because it's abig cultural event and increasingly people don't care about football but still want to hang out with their friends
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Jan 13, 2021 02:03
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PT6A posted:The reason people watch the Superbowl for just the ads is that somewhere along the line, it basically turned into a film festival for corporate-produced short films. I share your feelings more generally about the influence of advertising on our culture, but I don't think the Superbowl is a very good example of the harms it can actually cause. I was speaking more about the idea that anyone would every willfully subject themselves to a commercial when most normal people spend time avoiding them (channel surfing, DVR, Ad Blockers) like cancer. Nobody likes spam, pop ups, door to door salespeople, robocalls, junk mail or any of that poo poo (or even just regular old commercials when they're trying to watch Big Bang Theory reruns) but for whatever reason a certain subset of people gather round every year to watch The Good Commercials. And most of them suck just as bad as any other one.
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HootTheOwl posted:Who did you call? The "Dan Kaplis show" in Colorado and no
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