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There has to be some inspiration for the Harmoniholics episode and I want to know it so loving bad.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:There has to be some inspiration for the Harmoniholics episode and I want to know it so loving bad. That's definitely a thing. I think they just cut out the heavy church/religious aspect of those choirs to make it tv friendly.
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Jan 10, 2021 17:48
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I’m pretty sure Hank Hill is autistic at this point.
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Jan 10, 2021 21:35
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You don’t freak the monkey, you freak doctor quarters!
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Jan 12, 2021 02:14
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I always remembered it as him saying "jackass". 
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Jan 12, 2021 02:35
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Who What Now posted:I always remembered it as him saying "jackass". you might be conflating it with this line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ivaEcUjfw
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Jan 13, 2021 02:16
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Ches Neckbeard posted:There has to be some inspiration for the Harmoniholics episode and I want to know it so loving bad. It was inspired by the Dallas based men's choral group The Vocal Majority.
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Jan 13, 2021 02:24
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Cotton complaining about Peggy’s lasagna being cold and immediately throwing it on the floor.
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Jan 13, 2021 19:18
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In the last day I've totally randomly caught It Ain't Easy Being Green (Boomhauer's car in the quarry), Re-edumacating Lucky (Peggy makes Lucky fail his GED) and Unfortunate Son (Hank gets his Dad mixed up with a bunch of Vietnam Vets with PTSD). Not a great run of episodes. I know they play poo poo up for laughs on the show, but Unfortunate Son has a real nasty undercurrent towards the Vietnam guys and the therapist trying to help them. It also has an amazing visual gag of Hank speaking to Peggy's veteran gynecologist and trying to avoid looking at an anatomical model of a vagina and ovaries the whole time.
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Jan 13, 2021 19:45
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i dunno i got a different read from it. their therapy actually IS working and it's what they need as individuals, it's just that through the lens of hank and cotton it looks like a joke. like the whole "moral" of the episode, if king of the hill can be considered to be a moralistic play, is that the vietnam vets are downtrodden and cast out by their own generation, and they only ever wanted to be accepted. and by the end that's what they get!
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Jan 13, 2021 19:49
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Yeah ok I get what you're saying about it being cast through Hank and Cotton's eyes. I can see that. I still feel like the therapist was a liberal strawman, but I guess that's just King of the Hill generally.
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Jan 13, 2021 19:57
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More like Hank and Cotton are perfect representations of the types of people they are!
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Jan 13, 2021 22:57
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Many of the episodes don't age very well, which makes sense since I think Mike Judge ended up being a MAGA dork. I've been going over the later seasons and watching some episodes that I skipped over, and it's always obvious why I skipped them a decade ago. The Khan banana episode is 10x worse than Apu.
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Jan 13, 2021 23:13
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xtal posted:Many of the episodes don't age very well, which makes sense since I think Mike Judge ended up being a MAGA dork. I've been going over the later seasons and watching some episodes that I skipped over, and it's always obvious why I skipped them a decade ago. The Khan banana episode is 10x worse than Apu. I'm posting this from my phone so I don't have sources at the moment but I'm fairly certain he is anti-trump.
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Jan 13, 2021 23:20
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Khan has been the center of a few pretty unfortunate episodes. I think the worst one was the final ep to air on Adult Swim, where they were loving with his meds and they lucked out and had the ep's problem solved by having him be manic at the right moment
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Jan 13, 2021 23:23
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towards the end the show seems to lose the plot. There are too many episodes where hank is "right" compared to his simple assumptions being shown wrong frequently in the earlier seasons. For example I watched the bobby baseball one last night where hank thinks he's a bad father because he thinks Bobby is just inherently bad at baseball. They have an encouraging coach and Bobby starts to play better so hank starts being more involved with Bobby once he starts improving, but then Bobby starts a game and is playing terrible and his dad has to pull him out. The moral of the episode becomes "hank was right to doubt his sons ability" even though he actually was playing better earlier in the episode when the coach was giving him attention. it's pretty lame
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Jan 13, 2021 23:24
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Mike Judge is a centrist and/or anti establishment sort of guy and you can see the show try and pivot from being anti establishment at the silent majority of the 90s and Bush admin in the 00s to being anti establishment of the burgeoning blue wave of the mid to late 00s. That's secondary to why late KotH sucks though. You can definitely tell they were into cutting room scraps mode typical of any long running tv show, but especially after blowing their remaining worthwhile wad on the seasons they thought they were being cancelled.
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Jan 13, 2021 23:46
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Another Bill posted:In the last day I've totally randomly caught It Ain't Easy Being Green (Boomhauer's car in the quarry), Re-edumacating Lucky (Peggy makes Lucky fail his GED) and Unfortunate Son (Hank gets his Dad mixed up with a bunch of Vietnam Vets with PTSD). There's also a great bit when one of the WWII vets (Topsy?) makes fun of the vietnam vets Topsy: Yeah ya sissy losers! Therapist: You could use some therapy too, to clear up some of that anger. Topsy: ...I haven't slept in 50 years. I'm so tired.
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Jan 14, 2021 01:23
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...Topsy's dead!
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Jan 14, 2021 04:09
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PokeJoe posted:towards the end the show seems to lose the plot. There are too many episodes where hank is "right" compared to his simple assumptions being shown wrong frequently in the earlier seasons. Yeah those are good points. I just watched the Canadian ep from the final season and it was not good, felt like totally new writing staff from the golden years. Some quibbles: -Kahn no longer antagonistic and instead just hangs out in Hank’s yard all day. He made reference to spending 2 extra years in the killing fields rather than immigrate to Canada. He’s Laotian not Cambodian, felt like lazy first draft joke. -Hank mixes up Dallas Cowboy Super Bowls. -the Canadians arrive in a four door car with no trailer, but a big part of the plot is his pride in a Canadian riding lawn mower. Who would bring a lawnmower to an Airbnb? Did he leave it when he left?
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Jan 14, 2021 04:22
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I thought a lot about what Hank would do in the 2016 election. I concluded that he would have written in “dignity,” even though writing-in candidates is for nut jobs and fools
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Jan 14, 2021 04:29
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wrong thread
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Jan 14, 2021 05:12
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Governor George W Bush and Vice President Al Gore want you to focus on my hit and run conviction, and not my 16 point plan for America!
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Jan 15, 2021 06:46
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PokeJoe posted:towards the end the show seems to lose the plot. There are too many episodes where hank is "right" compared to his simple assumptions being shown wrong frequently in the earlier seasons. I haven't watched it in a bit but the episode where Bobby starts worshipping Jesus with Pastor K stands out like this. Hank is all for Bobby being into church right up until it's a way Hank doesn't like even if it's the same morals. '' It felt less to me like Hank was teaching his son about fads but conveniently using Bobby's fleeting interests against him. Not saying Hank is some puppet master, that's just how I felt in the moment.
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Jan 15, 2021 11:21
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Otoh the christian rock crowd sucks poo poo and hank was right to dunk on them
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Milo and POTUS posted:Otoh the christian rock crowd sucks poo poo and hank was right to dunk on them ALL rock is christian rock. The genre “Christian rock” is just some Michael Bolton rear end garbage. Oh yeah and rise against, they got kicked off the creed tourbus but they still found a way to make annoying garbage. 
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Jan 15, 2021 12:46
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TheKingslayer posted:I haven't watched it in a bit but the episode where Bobby starts worshipping Jesus with Pastor K stands out like this. Hank is all for Bobby being into church right up until it's a way Hank doesn't like even if it's the same morals. '' I think a better worry for Hank for that episode would have been that Bobby wasn't into Christianity for the faith but because Pastor K and his youth group are all seem cool. With Bobby emulating them because he wants to be cool too and the religion being secondary.
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Jan 15, 2021 13:53
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"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock and roll worse?"
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Another Bill posted:In the last day I've totally randomly caught It Ain't Easy Being Green (Boomhauer's car in the quarry), Re-edumacating Lucky (Peggy makes Lucky fail his GED) and Unfortunate Son (Hank gets his Dad mixed up with a bunch of Vietnam Vets with PTSD). I always hate that one because it compares some average WW2 vets with some severely traumatized Vietnam vets who are in group therapy. As if there aren't average happy Vietnam vets out there.
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MightyJoe36 posted:"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock and roll worse?" This quote popped into my head the other day when I was waiting for a pizza at a local pizza chain and there was Christian Rock playing over the speakers.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I always hate that one because it compares some average WW2 vets with some severely traumatized Vietnam vets who are in group therapy. As if there aren't average happy Vietnam vets out there. i think the gynecologist was supposed to be the representative of the the well-adjusted vietnam vet. episode definitely didn't handle the subject of vets of popular wars versus vets of unpopular wars very well.
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All KotH is good
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sweet thursday posted:All KotH is good Not all of them. They can't kill a man. Then they'd go to prison
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xtal posted:Not all of them. They can't kill a man. Then they'd go to prison I didn't drown that boy!
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Jan 17, 2021 07:55
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*Bobby crying after having his heart broken* Peggy, to her heartbroken son: I guess your love wasn’t as strong as your father’s and mine?
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Jan 19, 2021 02:33
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Every episode where Bobby has some sort of romantic trouble is gold. "But why were you dancing with all those guys!?"
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Jan 19, 2021 02:51
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There's a tear in my beer... Pamela truly deserved the Emmy just for the crying noises she made in that episode.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:*Bobby crying after having his heart broken* Bobby laying face down on the floor in his underwear. Hank: Well, at least his taste in music had improved.
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PinheadSlim posted:Every episode where Bobby has some sort of romantic trouble is gold. They are the most cringe, but in an empathetic way as we recall the follies of our youth. They evoke strong emotions.
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