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Jan 31, 2021 15:35
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Lol if he thinks this isn't what every conservative "taxation is theft" ghoul already does in local politics. Well other than the zoning thing maybe.
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Jan 31, 2021 15:39
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Yeah all those famous infrastructure projects, new schools and construction just lining up for Godsback, Kentucky or Shitville, Alabama.
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Jan 31, 2021 15:48
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Inching ever closer to what I've been waiting to see from Freep for years : someone no poo poo advocating for the return of sundown towns. We all know like half of them want them, so it's just a question of who will bring it up first.
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Jan 31, 2021 15:52
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Yeah! Let's make ourselves into serfs! We don't need no fancy politicians turnin' us into backwater cavemen when we can do it ourselves
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Jan 31, 2021 16:42
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Surprised to see that freep is a hotbed of juche ideology.
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Jan 31, 2021 16:46
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Xiahou Dun posted:Inching ever closer to what I've been waiting to see from Freep for years : someone no poo poo advocating for the return of sundown towns. Half? Also, it's endlessly entertaining to see that these fucks still haven't settled on a coherent narrative for the attempted insurrection. It was Soros-backed leftists / true patriots / antifa / gods army / misguided and misled saps I hope they never pick one.
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Jan 31, 2021 17:00
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Midgetskydiver posted:Half? It’s whichever serves the interests of the speaker at a given point
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Jan 31, 2021 18:17
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What I Dislike About USA After 6 Years Living Abroad (YouTube video)quote:Peter is a ‘travel/culture’ blogger that just returned from Ukraine, where he’s lived for several years. He’s a ‘fresh set of eyes’ that doesn’t hold back commenting on: Cool, let's start with all the freepers bitching about living under Communism getting the gently caress out! quote:To: 11th_VA
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Feb 1, 2021 02:28
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kik2dagroin posted:What I Dislike About USA After 6 Years Living Abroad (YouTube video) "Maybe we can put some carpet on the floor to make living here a little more comfortable." "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONCRETE FLOOR YOU'RE FREE NOT TO LIVE HERE." What is wrong with these people's brains.
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Feb 1, 2021 03:27
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hooman posted:"Maybe we can put some carpet on the floor to make living here a little more comfortable." If there is a future, I wonder if there'll be a diagnosis for like "terminal conservative brain" or something like that.
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Feb 1, 2021 03:46
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pseudanonymous posted:If there is a future, I wonder if there'll be a diagnosis for like "terminal conservative brain" or something like that. Lead poisoning, yeah.
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Feb 1, 2021 04:49
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I think there are studies showing apparent cognitive decline in the west. If true I think it’ll be down to a number of things. We’ve got the big one, lead. Then after comes social media, micro plastics, dietary deficiencies even in developed nations, chemicals loving our brains up that we currently think are safe, media manipulation (close in effect to social media poisoning), stress and everyday pollution. I wonder what they’d find if there were an effort to give everyone brain scans. How many people have grey matter loss and lesions that explain that no, Terry didn’t just get a bit racist in his old age, he has literal brain damage.
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Feb 1, 2021 07:03
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I find the attempts to explain racism as mental disorders or a reaction to environmental factors less than appealing. These people have agency. They are not victims, they are oppressors.
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Feb 1, 2021 08:29
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The continuing defunding of education and bastardization of teaching methods, into more and more rote repetition of dry facts instead of general cognitive development is probably the biggest factor. If you don't teach your kids the tools and methods of critical thinking, don't act surprised when they turn into conspiracy theorists and FYGM types.
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Feb 1, 2021 08:38
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Midgetskydiver posted:I find the attempts to explain racism as mental disorders or a reaction to environmental factors less than appealing. These people have agency. They are not victims, they are oppressors. I think this is drawing after the theory that violent crime in general went down for no discernible reason, basically because lower lead levels made people somewhat less likely to rage out and turn to violence. This doesn't make the individual violent actors not culpable.
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Feb 1, 2021 09:06
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Obv once we established a rational socialist society one of the first things to do is to find the genetic causes of boomer brain and CRISPR them out of existence.
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Feb 1, 2021 09:15
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People can be both a product of an environment and also personally culpable. If personal culpability has any meaning in a deterministic universe it has to be both, really.
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Feb 1, 2021 13:34
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think there are studies showing apparent cognitive decline in the west. If true I think it’ll be down to a number of things. We’ve got the big one, lead. Then after comes social media, micro plastics, dietary deficiencies even in developed nations, chemicals loving our brains up that we currently think are safe, media manipulation (close in effect to social media poisoning), stress and everyday pollution. I think you might need to show some sources because that sounds like some alt right poo poo. Not that you yourself are alt right or espousing their views but theyre very big on "western society is getting dumber".
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Feb 1, 2021 14:17
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Nessus posted:Racism has a wide variation of expressions. I think what people say here is more that there are discernible specific patterns that a lot of these people have, and that some of these patterns may not be cultural behavior, or a flaw intrinsic to the human brain or anything, but rather the result of (for instance) high levels of ambient lead when they were growing up. Violent crime also started going down about 20 years after Row v. Wade brought abortion nation-wide, maybe kids that have parents who actually want them are less likely to commit crimes?
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Feb 1, 2021 14:21
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think there are studies showing apparent cognitive decline in the west. If true I think it’ll be down to a number of things. We’ve got the big one, lead. Then after comes social media, micro plastics, dietary deficiencies even in developed nations, chemicals loving our brains up that we currently think are safe, media manipulation (close in effect to social media poisoning), stress and everyday pollution. We joke a lot about boomer lead brains, but there has really been a substantial and constant increase in IQ test performance (especially in fluid intelligence)during the 20th century all across the developed world. This phenomenon is now called the Flynn effect and while there is a lot of debate on the causes, not many researchers are denying its existence. The cumulative effect is so big that, compared to the modern population, a substantial chunk of the 1930s population would be classified as mentally impaired today. The effect has mostly stopped around the 90s so whatever environmental factors were causing the brain damage seems to be gone now. Still, it's an important lesson to keep exposure of children to pollutants and novel chemical substances to a minimum because we have no way to assess long term effects. Lead is probably the best example because it was everywhere and we now know that there are no safe levels of exposure. Any amount of it causes some brain damage.
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Feb 1, 2021 14:37
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That happens anywhere that iq has been tested regularly over a long period, though. Improving circumstances probably play a role, but Flynn himself thinks it’s also a function of modernity encouraging people to solve everyday problems in ways that mirror how iq tests work, whereas in the 40s the novelty of the kinds of tasks associated with a test like that would have been part of the challenge.
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Feb 1, 2021 14:51
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IQ tests are also an exceedingly dubious way to judge intelligence.
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Feb 1, 2021 15:06
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:That happens anywhere that iq has been tested regularly over a long period, though. Improving circumstances probably play a role, but Flynn himself thinks it’s also a function of modernity encouraging people to solve everyday problems in ways that mirror how iq tests work, whereas in the 40s the novelty of the kinds of tasks associated with a test like that would have been part of the challenge. Yeah, but the modernity explanation as a single cause isn't really a good fit(like all mono-causal explanations attempts). Like, what was so different in peoples' everyday lives between the 60s and the 70s or the 70s and 80s that would explain it? And while the effects are strongest in fluid intelligence tasks, they are also present in all other areas like verbal intelligence and in sub groups like university graduates. And university education hasn't(qualitatively) changed that much during the 20th century. Ultimately it's probably very multi-causal and complicated or we would have found the single cause already.
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Feb 1, 2021 15:13
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GABA ghoul posted:And university education hasn't(qualitatively) changed that much during the 20th century. 
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Feb 1, 2021 15:18
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Guavanaut posted:The quantitative change is pretty significant though. That's true, but the increase in test performance is also present in non-college graduates. So that's not the (sole) cause. Improved access to education is probably the first big explanation everyone jumped to but it didn't really pan out. Turns out, a university education doesn't really make you (that much) smarter. (Of which I am the best example)
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Feb 1, 2021 15:35
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Guavanaut posted:The quantitative change is pretty significant though. What happened to Australia in the 90s?
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Feb 1, 2021 16:41
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Chin Strap posted:What happened to Australia in the 90s? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Research_Centre
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Feb 1, 2021 16:58
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Guavanaut posted:The quantitative change is pretty significant though. You can see the day they introduced tuition fee's in the UK.
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Feb 1, 2021 17:10
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GABA ghoul posted:That's true, but the increase in test performance is also present in non-college graduates. So that's not the (sole) cause. It would be interesting to compare high-school curricula from now with what was common 70-100 years ago to see if the nature of the tasks have changed, although I’m sure someone has done it. My grandfather was taught Latin but no math above arithmetic, for example, and his essays were graded on penmanship. I could see an argument that primary and secondary education have demanded greater and greater degrees of abstraction of children that have changed how people solve problems.
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Feb 1, 2021 17:16
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The small decline in the US in 2000 makes sense (probably a good chunk of people choosing to join the military rather than go to college) but it looks like it was trending downwards since the mid 90s, wonder what caused that?
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Feb 1, 2021 18:42
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RagnarokAngel posted:IQ tests are also an exceedingly dubious way to judge intelligence. This is certainly the woke view, and it's probably not a perfect test of "intelligence" but it's a test of something that's probably a derivative of intelligence, and the fact it went up consistently for a while told us something. The unemployment measure the US uses isn't even close to perfect, but it does tell us something about the economy.
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Feb 1, 2021 19:07
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Twelve by Pies posted:The small decline in the US in 2000 makes sense (probably a good chunk of people choosing to join the military rather than go to college) but it looks like it was trending downwards since the mid 90s, wonder what caused that?
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Feb 1, 2021 19:24
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pseudanonymous posted:This is certainly the woke view, and it's probably not a perfect test of "intelligence" but it's a test of something that's probably a derivative of intelligence, and the fact it went up consistently for a while told us something. It’s not thr woke view it’s the correct view
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Feb 1, 2021 19:47
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I don't think there's any information communicated by iq that isn't already communicated more efficiently by zip code. Even nazi trash like the Bell Curve claims that there is strong correlation between wealth and iq score but reverse the causal relation at play.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:18
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Nessus posted:This is also probably what's behind the cryptocurrency weirdos, at least the ones who aren't ultimately drug enthusiasts. There may also be comparison points to other recent events. Of course, sometimes there are windfalls, the question is what you do from there. Big correlation for the Bitcoin weirdos. I haven’t looked much lately but the old Bitcoin threads were full of Reddit posts of bitcoiners fantasizing about ruling the world as trillionares once Bitcoin becomes the global currency
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Feb 1, 2021 21:36
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CharlestheHammer posted:It’s not thr woke view it’s the correct view This is just amazing if it's genuine.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:51
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pseudanonymous posted:This is just amazing if it's genuine. So are you like, saying it can "tell us something" about black people scoring lower, other than socioeconomic factors?
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Feb 1, 2021 22:17
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pseudanonymous posted:This is just amazing if it's genuine. Charles is correct
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Feb 1, 2021 22:21
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pseudanonymous posted:This is just amazing if it's genuine. What does iq tell us that we have no other way of knowing?
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Feb 1, 2021 22:40
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