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BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

priznat posted:

F-15EX just set canada’s fighter procurement back 15 years, dammit!

(I know, Boeing is a nonstarter)

CF-15EH

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ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Canadian Ftire -15 Erotíque Hoser

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

~Coxy posted:

I finally understand how quasars work.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


We could always try F111s again! Right?

In the land of venomous frogs even we don't want to deal with anymore:



https://theaviationgeekclub.com/her...QmuSUhl3cSbWBVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80OadL7f8Lo

OF COURSE this has nothing to do with the F111 lawsuits

quote:

Another aspect of the F-111 which drew criticism was the poor work conditions for F-111 ground crew involved in sealing/de-sealing F-111 fuel tanks resulted in a class action lawsuit and the Australian government paying out more than A$20 million in damages. The health issues with chemical exposure included permanent brain damage to a number of ground crew before conditions were improved.[75]

https://www.dva.gov.au/financial-support/compensation-claims/claims-f-111-workers

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Feb 4, 2021

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

priznat posted:

F-15EX just set canada’s fighter procurement back 15 years, dammit!

(I know, Boeing is a nonstarter)

Just wait for Boeing's bankruptcy, the F-15 will get parceled off to General Dynamics

Or maybe Kawasaki

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status/1357275470895677441

It doesn't look quite so sexy from certain angles....

https://twitter.com/autocar/status/1357253322256887808

https://twitter.com/AirspeederHQ/status/1356852418231758850

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

At some point techbros are going to realise multirotors are hugely inefficient. Surely.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

Humphreys posted:

We could always try F111s again! Right?

In the land of venomous frogs even we don't want to deal with anymore:

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/her...QmuSUhl3cSbWBVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80OadL7f8Lo


That F-111 on the flatbed finally manages to properly show the size of these jets.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
Why are they burying them instead of recycling the aluminum :thunk:

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Xakura posted:

At some point techbros are going to realise multirotors are hugely inefficient. Surely.
Isn't the main benefit of multirotors that you can improve the failure mode? Instead of having to spend a lot of money engineering in a lot of reliability, you can just have a lot of relatively cheap rotors and if you lose one-or-two, there's still a bunch of redundancy to keep you in the air. (that aircraft does not do that)

The buzzing sound will drive you nuts mind.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

e.pilot posted:

Why are they burying them instead of recycling the aluminum :thunk:

Asbestos sandwiched in the panels. Apparently they recycled anything that was worth dealing with and buried the rest.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Pablo Bluth posted:

Isn't the main benefit of multirotors that you can improve the failure mode? Instead of having to spend a lot of money engineering in a lot of reliability, you can just have a lot of relatively cheap rotors and if you lose one-or-two, there's still a bunch of redundancy to keep you in the air. (that aircraft does not do that)

The buzzing sound will drive you nuts mind.

Sure, if you have excess power.I mean, sure they may be able to lose a motor or 2....but if power fails, it's a brick. It can't glide, it can't autorotate.
It's 100% reliant on electronics to control it.
It's such a stupid idea.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Xakura posted:

At some point techbros are going to realise multirotors are hugely inefficient. Surely.

I mean, it's a racing series who cares if it's hugely inefficient if it looks and runs cool?

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

dupersaurus posted:

I mean, it's a racing series who cares if it's hugely inefficient if it looks and runs cool?

Racing against what? At the very best it'll be time-trials. They'll never get those things racing in proximity with eachother.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


ImplicitAssembler posted:

Racing against what? At the very best it'll be time-trials. They'll never get those things racing in proximity with eachother.

Now THIS is podracing.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
well obviously they just need to put an airframe parachute on the vehicle :can:

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Oh sweet, step one of this becoming a reality.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

ImplicitAssembler posted:

Racing against what? At the very best it'll be time-trials. They'll never get those things racing in proximity with eachother.

And?

I'm not making any comment on whether it'll succeed or not, but a purpose-built racing vehicle of any type is pretty much the dictionary definition of stupid and impractical

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

dupersaurus posted:

And?

I'm not making any comment on whether it'll succeed or not, but a purpose-built racing vehicle of any type is pretty much the dictionary definition of stupid and impractical

Ok, even as a racing vehicle, it's stupid and impractical.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


ImplicitAssembler posted:

Ok, even as a racing vehicle, it's stupid and impractical.

This has literally never stopped anyone. Look at swamp buggies. Look at drag boats. Look at dedicated burnout cars.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



In this sociological paper, we will establish that there's basically two kinds of airplane weirdos; the :actually:'s

And :jeb:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

ImplicitAssembler posted:

Sure, if you have excess power.I mean, sure they may be able to lose a motor or 2....but if power fails, it's a brick. It can't glide, it can't autorotate.
It's 100% reliant on electronics to control it.
It's such a stupid idea.

If you lose a motor on a quad, you still have up to 50% lift available, but you lose all yaw control, and most of your authority in pitch and roll. The opposite motor will go to zero, and you’ll descend (straight down) on the remaining two. They can’t deliver 100% though, since the flight controller is still throttling them down dynamically to keep the quad flattish.

You need at least 6 motors to really have any kind of redundancy with a multi rotor, but even with a hex, losing one generally means you lose yaw control unless it’s dead still wind. You generally still have enough reserve thrust for a safe landing, but it’s definitely a time-to-land-right-now kind of thing. Octos and octo-quads are the standard for bigger multirotors for this reason.

All of that said, I 100% agree; multirotors are amazing for cheap, disposable applications, but gently caress flying people around in them. To paraphrase Lin Hendrix, “You aren't big enough and there aren't enough of you to get me in that thing.”

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5JgnMJzCtQ

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwwKoz8Diw

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008
Hog get away from that thing!

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


Isn't there a very, very similar video from much more recently of someone who came into money and their first thought was 'my backyard is totally a heliport and i can totally self-teach in an r22?' Think I might have seen it here, if a long time ago...

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

The crazy thing is that you can legally (in the US anyway) buy a Mosquito helicopter and fly it without a licence.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Nebakenezzer posted:

Or maybe Kawasaki

F-15s now only come in lime green

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Phy posted:

F-15s now only come in lime green

Ola posted:

We were [lime green percentage] successful in communicating paint codes to subcontractors this quarter!

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017

HookedOnChthonics posted:

Isn't there a very, very similar video from much more recently of someone who came into money and their first thought was 'my backyard is totally a heliport and i can totally self-teach in an r22?' Think I might have seen it here, if a long time ago...

I remember that video, I'm pretty sure it was a kit helicopter someone put together and tried to take off from a hill with on their first flight with no instruction.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

This is a recent home built heli I saw. There was a post a while back about one of the first helicopter tests and how the guy doing it didn't buckle in and got thrown into the blades. This gives me similar vibes.


https://youtu.be/GceJKtKSx9E

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

AzureSkys posted:

This is a recent home built heli I saw. There was a post a while back about one of the first helicopter tests and how the guy doing it didn't buckle in and got thrown into the blades. This gives me similar vibes.


https://youtu.be/GceJKtKSx9E

I don't know why anyone would want to get in a home made helicopter. Someone I knew died in a kit helicopter he had bought pre-built. Some part that was behind a fairing had corroded or the weld failed or something and the tail fell off while he was flying it.

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull
According to reports on a couple other message boards, Raptor guy flew again today, requested an early landing, shortly after declared emergency due to low oil pressure, then a couple minutes later reported engine out. He seems to have landed safely.

Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to him that he is not good at engineering.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

BobHoward posted:

According to reports on a couple other message boards, Raptor guy flew again today, requested an early landing, shortly after declared emergency due to low oil pressure, then a couple minutes later reported engine out. He seems to have landed safely.

Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to him that he is not good at engineering.

Nah he just needs to add more oil pumps.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Cojawfee posted:

I don't know why anyone would want to get in a home made helicopter. Someone I knew died in a kit helicopter he had bought pre-built. Some part that was behind a fairing had corroded or the weld failed or something and the tail fell off while he was flying it.

like there's a reason that birds evolved wings instead of rotors.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008

AzureSkys posted:

This is a recent home built heli I saw. There was a post a while back about one of the first helicopter tests and how the guy doing it didn't buckle in and got thrown into the blades. This gives me similar vibes.


https://youtu.be/GceJKtKSx9E

All of my test flights start with first positioning the aircraft in a suburban backyard.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


AzureSkys posted:

one of the first helicopter tests and how the guy doing it didn't buckle in and got thrown into the blades

now this one i do know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k562IriqnlA

it was a bell executive who wandered onto the test pitch and pulled a 'hold my beer;' didn't fasten the seatbelt, was bodily carried up out of the cockpit and thrown 10 feet by the rotor and managed to walk away with a broken wrist



:staredog:

HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Feb 5, 2021

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

All of my test flights start with first positioning the aircraft in a suburban backyard.

You gotta wonder what the neighbours think.

"Oh. Jim's testing his deathmachine 30' from our house again. Honey! Go tell the kids not to play out the back today."

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

All of my test flights start with first positioning the aircraft in a suburban backyard.

the one valid reason for HOAs to exist is so you don't have to suffer your neighbor's homebuilt aircraft's noise every day

CBJamo
Jul 15, 2012

marumaru posted:

the one valid reason for HOAs to exist is so you don't have to suffer your neighbor's homebuilt aircraft's noise every day

I'd rather be helicoptered to death than deal with your average suburban HOA.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


HOAs are something I thought were stupid american myths.... But no, literal Karen Organizations.

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