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Shine posted:Big Show is cool, and when you meet him in person you realize just how loving large he is. It makes sense that nobody has ever lifted him (he's too big). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw8Gc1dvZNw
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Shine posted:Big Show is cool, and when you meet him in person you realize just how loving large he is. It makes sense that nobody has ever lifted him (he's too big). i think i've told this story before but when wwecw had just started my friends and i went to a house show somewhere in dryhump massachusetts. show vs sabu was the main in an extreme rules match crowd was what you think it would be for an ecw revival, which was to say smarky and obnoxious as gently caress, but show worked his rear end off and took a hard bump through a table in the corner after sabu legitimately kicked him in the beak. after the match my dipshit friends and i started a "thank you show!" chant and he turned and gave us a little bow before leaving the ring. i always appreciated that he could have sleepwalked his way through throwing sabu through furniture but gave us in the middle of nowhere a quality hardcore match i was in the front row and at one point he was leaning back against the ropes and I thought "if those ropes snap the first four rows die." he looked mythically huge sandman stood on my chair for his entrance but i was taking a piss at the time and sadly didn't get soaked with drunk wrestler spit
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Feb 19, 2021 03:51
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Red posted:I think it's as simple as WCW believing WWF "discovered" Taz, and wanted to yank Awesome before the WWF "found" him. Russo and Bischoff wanted a big moment to kick off their run in charge and signing the ECW champion who they were told was free and clear of his ECW contract seemed like a great idea. It didn't really have anything to do with Taz, WCW and WWF were continually signing different ECW talent when they got the chance.
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Feb 19, 2021 04:00
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This is one of my favorite clips ever. That Goldberg was easily able to lift The Giant means he may well have been able to lift The Big Show, but sadly we'll never know. 
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MassRafTer posted:Russo and Bischoff wanted a big moment to kick off their run in charge and signing the ECW champion who they were told was free and clear of his ECW contract seemed like a great idea. It didn't really have anything to do with Taz, WCW and WWF were continually signing different ECW talent when they got the chance. Interesting! - Sandman (Hardcore Hak) joined WCW in Sept. '98 - Bam Bam Bigelow - Nov. 98 - Mikey Whipwreck - March 99 - Saturn - Sept. 97 - Lance Storm - June '00 Before that, Juventud, Rey, Psicosis, Malenko, Eddie, Jericho, and others came from ECW, though Eddie had been there before.
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Critical posted:i think i've told this story before but when wwecw had just started my friends and i went to a house show somewhere in dryhump massachusetts. show vs sabu was the main in an extreme rules match Show catches entirely too much poo poo.
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Red posted:Interesting! What about Raven?
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Sabu, Malenko and Eddy Guerrero came over right before Nitro started. Public Enemy and Benoit were in soon after. Woman returned and Psicosis debuted in WCW in January 1996. Mysterio was in in mid-1996 and Juventud Guerrera and Jericho soon after.Numero6 posted:What about Raven? As Scotty Flamingo in 1992-93 and entered as Raven in 1997. Stevie Richards came over as well. e: And Mikey Whipwreck! RC and Moon Pie fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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Feb 19, 2021 06:17
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Shine posted:This is one of my favorite clips ever. That Goldberg was easily able to lift The Giant means he may well have been able to lift The Big Show, but sadly we'll never know. That one clip overrules all information since that Goldberg was just an untrained hoss with a good gimmick. He was truly something special, like Brock after him. That there hasn't been a Brock since Brock is remarkable though. How many The Next Brock's have there been? There was Matt Morgan, there was Batista but that went a different direction, and while looking this up theres another one just this year in the last two weeks: https://mobile.twitter.com/HeymanHustle/status/1345159942777561088 He signed this month.
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Critical posted:sandman stood on my chair for his entrance but i was taking a piss at the time and sadly didn't get soaked with drunk wrestler spit
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Firstborn posted:I cannot stop loving watching Botchamania is there a support group/thread it's a very good series.
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sticklefifer posted:Regarding Awesome and Taz, it still blows my mind that in the year 2000, a WWF wrestler fought a WCW wrestler in ECW, and everyone involved allowed it to happen. What's equally as weird is that it happened in the days of WWF running columns and articles and stuff on their website and they did a surprisingly good and in depth article on the politics of getting the ECW belt off Mike Awesome. I wish I could remember who wrote it.
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Feb 19, 2021 08:45
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Show catches entirely too much poo poo. It's because despite being charismatic as hell and hard-working he's so lumbering his matches max out at 'above average'. Which isn't really something you want out of somebody getting slotted into main event programs for 20 years.
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He comes across as a casualty of WWE's insane travel schedule. Whenever he actually got any time off, he'd always come back looking like he dropped 50 pounds and was in the best shape of his life. Then he'd gain all the weight back until it was time for his next vacation.
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he was also terribly booked his entire career.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:he was also terribly booked his entire career. except 1996 WCW
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Lid posted:except 1996 WCW yea
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Whenever I throw on an old Nitro or Thunder I’m always a little surprised by how much more I enjoy The Giant over Big Show. Like he just looked cooler, the hair + beard, the way he dressed, the way he carried himself. As soon he got to WWF they stripped most of that away, booked him like poo poo and then sent him to OVW when he didn’t get over. Then now forever
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I don’t know anything about following wrestling around the time of the Steiner math promo. Did it get a big reaction at the time? Was it a meme instantly? Was it meant to be funny? Did TNA script stuff at the time?
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0konner posted:I don’t know anything about following wrestling around the time of the Steiner math promo. Did it get a big reaction at the time? Was it a meme instantly? Was it meant to be funny? Did TNA script stuff at the time? Goons liked it (requires archives) https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2839477&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=10
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WWE never really figured out that a guy like Big Show works best as a "special attraction" and not a full-time roster member -- you bring him in once in a while for a monster run, he puts over a rising babyface, and then disappears long enough for fans to miss him and pop big for his return. Instead he was just wrestling on TV every week and doing wacky backstage segments, he had zero mystique or aura, and they somehow managed to make him Just A Guy despite his obvious spectacle appeal.
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DeathChicken posted:He comes across as a casualty of WWE's insane travel schedule. Whenever he actually got any time off, he'd always come back looking like he dropped 50 pounds and was in the best shape of his life. Then he'd gain all the weight back until it was time for his next vacation. Imagine if Show had been booked as an attraction and not a full timer. Of course where would he go? Another casualty of we can’t miss him if he never leaves.
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Benne posted:WWE never really figured out that a guy like Big Show works best as a "special attraction" and not a full-time roster member -- you bring him in once in a while for a monster run, he puts over a rising babyface, and then disappears long enough for fans to miss him and pop big for his return. Instead he was just wrestling on TV every week and doing wacky backstage segments, he had zero mystique or aura, and they somehow managed to make him Just A Guy despite his obvious spectacle appeal. I remember a segment where the following happened Show does that slingshot into the ring deal big guys do to show off agility. He did it super smooth. He drills Test with a nice dropkick. Wastes zero time, chokeslams Test hard. 1 2 3. If they'd done that a bit more, maybe this conversation gets avoided. I guess he still did pretty okay and I think he's one of the better big men.
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It also kinda sucks that his debut is being a big idiot and accidentally helping Austin win a cage match.
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also The Giant's chokeslam hasn't really been emulated well since him, he was the only guy to get people up and then loving DRILL THEM falling down alongside them not to his knees like straight to the ground it looked awesome
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I can’t believe you guys are ignoring the fact that only Vince McMahon knows how to book a giant properly
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Ok but hear me out. Big Show as Val Venis was funny. https://youtu.be/kdcWkpN8yNo
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Here's a round-up of Big Show's first year and a half in the WWF that I once put together for the WCW thread: - Debuts by interfering in the cage match between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon, with Michael Cole crowing "Paul Wight! IT'S PAUL WIGHT!". Throws Stone Cold into the cage, which swings open and allows Stone Cold to win the match. - Fought Mankind at perhaps the most convoluted Wrestlemania (Russomania) ever, where he was an afterthought in deciding who should be the special guest referee for the main event. Loses by disqualification. - He turns face afterwards and joins The Union of People You Oughta Respect Son, which somehow spells the acronym U.P.Y.O.U.R.S, with Mankind and various other midcarders who no longer had anything to do since leaving The Corporation. - Turns heel by forming a tag team with The Undertaker, which is mostly notable for Paul Bearer driving them out into the desert and Undertaker having a motorbike and Big Show also maybe having a motorbike so Undertaker can bury Big Show up to his neck in the sand and Big Show said gently caress you or something and this was all a test to see if Big Show had what it took to be a dead man so Undertaker went back with his motorbike and - Undertaker is injured, takes several months out, so Big Show turns face again. Randomly wins the WWF title because Triple H, The Rock and Mankind have better things to do, like feuding with Vince and Al Snow. Feuds with the Big Boss Man and surfs on his dead daddy's coffin. - Loses the title to Triple H on Raw. - Is the last eliminated in the Royal Rumble but still gets a Wrestlemania storyline due to The Rock screwing up (?) and touching the ground first. Shows up the episode of Saturday Night Live hosted by The Rock (along with Triple H and Mick Foley), where he gets praise for being funny and having some natural charisma. Is the first one eliminated in the Wrestlemania main event. - Because of his performance on SNL we got the "Big Show just wants to have fun" gimmick, where he'd be "wacky" and "hilarious" in all sorts of pre-written WWF skits. Turns face and feuds with Shane McMahon, loses, then turns heel and becomes Shane's friend again a few months later. - Is sent down to developmental for being too fat, less than a year after being WWF champion.
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Right before he got sent down to developmental, they were going to do a Bikertaker/BIg Show feud for SummerSlam. Saw them try it out at a house show match from the second row and 1) yes, Big Show is mythically huge; and 2) at one point on a chokeslam false finish, Show chokes Taker, Taker hocks up a huge loogie that comes to rest on the ropes and dangles there for the rest of the night.
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davidbix posted:Basically, he stole the show when The Rock hosted SNL two weeks earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR7i1YFH-QQ Did this show start with Vince giving everybody a pep talk backstage and catching out Big Show for having a steel chair behind his back? Is this a thing I actually remember?
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XeeD posted:Did this show start with Vince giving everybody a pep talk backstage and catching out Big Show for having a steel chair behind his back? Is this a thing I actually remember? I remember it too so
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XeeD posted:Did this show start with Vince giving everybody a pep talk backstage and catching out Big Show for having a steel chair behind his back? Is this a thing I actually remember? Yeah, I think Big Show's thing was that he just wanted to beat the poo poo out of everybody but had to be talked down and realize this was a comedy show and not a wrestling show or something along those lines.
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Question for you guys: which Bloodsport card is generally considered the best? My roommate was big into combat sports for a while, and though she doesn't like pro wrestling at all she tries to keep an open mind since she knows how big a fan I am; thus I figured Bloodsport would be right up her alley.
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0konner posted:I don’t know anything about following wrestling around the time of the Steiner math promo. Did it get a big reaction at the time? Was it a meme instantly? Was it meant to be funny?
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Psycho Mantits posted:Question for you guys: which Bloodsport card is generally considered the best? My roommate was big into combat sports for a while, and though she doesn't like pro wrestling at all she tries to keep an open mind since she knows how big a fan I am; thus I figured Bloodsport would be right up her alley. Better off just turning on TNT and waiting for Bloodsport to come on.
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tough call between matt riddle's, barnett 3, and raw underground
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Woah apparently Moxley is on the Bloodsport card tomorrow? Barnett's about to get my money. I've only really seen Barnett vs Suzuki, which I thought was rad. Was Bloodsport 4 good?
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Decades posted:Woah apparently Moxley is on the Bloodsport card tomorrow? Barnett's about to get my money. It was fun. Very easy watch. If you are really craving more after 5 you should check it out but it's mostly the same people on the card minus Moxley.
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Cool that works - I've loved Cobb since last G1. I haven't seen Tom Lawlor fight for pretend yet but have been meaning to check him out. The cards could use more Tim Thatcher, I'm into that guy. Also would love to see what Kyle O'Reilly could come up with in this format some day. As mainly a jiu jitsu guy who has only come back to pro wrestling recently, his grappling impresses me most even over guys like ZSJ. Decades fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Feb 19, 2021 |
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XeeD posted:Did this show start with Vince giving everybody a pep talk backstage and catching out Big Show for having a steel chair behind his back? Is this a thing I actually remember? Correct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0it_K3Qmcc0
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