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hbag posted:getting the vaccine on tuesday Here's hoping you get Pfizer but anything helps
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SchnorkIes posted:Here's hoping you get Pfizer but anything helps so whats up with your weird gimmick account
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:so whats up with your weird gimmick account schnorkles has entered mass production no idk i was really drunk
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Feb 20, 2021 21:12
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SchnorkIes posted:schnorkles has entered mass production lol its cool ive just been curious
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Feb 20, 2021 21:13
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:If the vent is aimed downwards it'll also push droplets/aerosols away from other people's faces: Yeah, no, the envomask vent is just straight out frontward. Snowglobe of Doom posted:Of course a non-vented N95/KN95/surgical mask is always going to be better in terms of outward emissions. If you care about other people/want to avoid fistfights then cover that vent. Like I said, all envomasks now come with a plastic plug you can jam inside the vent to block it, it just doesn't LOOK blocked from the outside.
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Feb 20, 2021 21:20
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This guy has the whole mask situation figured out.   quote:I'm a Pediatric Dentist, I wear this 8 hours a day to protect my patients and myself Strawberry Pyramid posted:Yeah, no, the envomask vent is just straight out frontward. This doctor recommends the covers they sell for them, but also wearing another mask over the top https://twitter.com/AuforGA/status/1321583474319466503 https://twitter.com/AuforGA/status/1321585220777365505 Here's another doctor who wears a mask over the top of his: https://twitter.com/YoDoctorYo/status/1329236232606453762 ..... but just from googling I'm seeing lots and lots of medical professionals who are wearing it without anything on top. I think you'll be fine if you wear it with just the plug inside in pretty much all most cases, if anyone complains just explain it to them. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Feb 20, 2021 |
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Feb 20, 2021 21:43
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Joe camel looking rear end doctor
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Feb 20, 2021 21:58
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Iowa is renowned for having lovely case reporting which can have lag times of up to a month or more, I guess that caught up with them all of a sudden https://twitter.com/madelyndlewis/status/1363204710371528706 
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Feb 21, 2021 01:29
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Sam Sanders did a great show this week on the vaccine and a few other Covid related things (efficacy of double mask wearing, etc) Worth a listen, though doesn’t get too in the weeds scientifically/medically. Just useful knowledge for a well informed person to have. https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/969085587/your-vaccine-questions-answered
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Feb 21, 2021 01:39
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Is there anything I can read about taking OTC medicine to counteract any 2nd dose side effects I might get next week? I know you're not supposed to take anything preemptively, but should I take a couple Tylenol if I come down with a headache or fever after the shot or tough it out?
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Feb 21, 2021 06:51
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https://www.healthline.com/health-n...OVID-19-vaccine I probably wouldn't if I could avoid it, but it's not the end of the world if you do
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Feb 21, 2021 06:54
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Iowa is renowned for having lovely case reporting which can have lag times of up to a month or more, I guess that caught up with them all of a sudden It's okay, our vaccine rollout is *checks notes* also one of the worst in the country. 
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Feb 21, 2021 07:12
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Lester Shy posted:Is there anything I can read about taking OTC medicine to counteract any 2nd dose side effects I might get next week? I know you're not supposed to take anything preemptively, but should I take a couple Tylenol if I come down with a headache or fever after the shot or tough it out? Platystemon posted:I looked at this paper and based on that made the decision not to take NSAID around the time of vaccination if I could help it.
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Feb 21, 2021 07:23
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xcheopis posted:I'm on xeljanz and methotrexate and the only issues I had with the second shot were deep arm pain and a day of "malaise" so bad that it took a powerful act of will to get out of bed and walk across the room to get my morning coffee. Heya xeljanz comrade! Glad to hear you got your shots! I had to call out of work the day after my second shot because I had terrible stomach cramps. I am having chills/bad stomach cramps intermittently still. Seem to be over the worst of it.
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Feb 21, 2021 07:42
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If I had the choice between sleep and NSAIDs for flu-like symptoms, I'd take sleep 100% of the time. If I have to be functional, I'm a big fan of naproxen (Aleve). Follow up: My mother in law who had the crazy legs after her second dose a few weeks ago seems to be fine now. Not much detail, my wife is barely on speaking terms with her.
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Feb 21, 2021 10:24
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Riptor posted:Ponda Baba looking rear end doctor
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Feb 21, 2021 10:55
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anyone else remember thinking this was going to be a three to six month long thing and life would be normal again
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Feb 21, 2021 13:16
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I was in denial that the Wuhan coronavirus would be a global pandemic, but once victims started showing up in hospitals on every continent, I was pretty sure it was going to be with us for a good long while. It wasn’t just going to go away. It did come as a surprise that China, Taiwan, Australia, and New Zealand were able to suppress it with basic public health measures, but also, having seen that, that most nations would be unwilling to do the same.
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Feb 21, 2021 14:05
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Platystemon posted:I was in denial that the Wuhan coronavirus would be a global pandemic, but once victims started showing up in hospitals on every continent, I was pretty sure it was going to be with us for a good long while. It wasn’t just going to go away. Don't think China's measures were basic there bub Vietnam? Sure.
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Feb 21, 2021 14:19
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naem posted:anyone else remember thinking this was going to be a three to six month long thing and life would be normal again I made a joke about taking the dog vaccine and then all my posts go into yelling at the government for being stupid and not jumping all over it
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Feb 21, 2021 14:23
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I get my vaccine Thursday. Wonder which I’ll get. Looking forward to it. Really hoping that every country will have a good roll out so I can begin to travel again.
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Feb 21, 2021 15:07
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naem posted:anyone else remember thinking this was going to be a three to six month long thing and life would be normal again I remember looking at some lovely data-aggegation website in March 2020 that predicted the virus would peak in the US sometime around May and feeling completely despondent. "I can't do two more months of this!"
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Feb 21, 2021 16:50
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naem posted:anyone else remember thinking this was going to be a three to six month long thing and life would be normal again Yeah, I remember in April reading an article about how a Covid economy could safely operate. It talked about universal free rapid testing, a contact tracing program with 300,000 federal workers, funding for protective barriers everywhere. I remember thinking it was fascinating and well thought out. Of course there was no plan, and none of that happened, and half a million people died.
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Feb 21, 2021 17:05
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smoobles posted:Yeah, I remember in April reading an article about how a Covid economy could safely operate. It talked about universal free rapid testing, a contact tracing program with 300,000 federal workers, funding for protective barriers everywhere. I remember thinking it was fascinating and well thought out. Trump's non plan was still better than "force everything open"
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i basically guessed, "the spanish flu was 18 months, all the peeps who learned anything from that are dead, 18 months it is"
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SchnorkIes posted:Trump's non plan was still better than "force everything open" Trump’s non-plan was to force everything open, and also say masks are dumb and “what coronavirus”?
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Feb 21, 2021 17:24
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So could you just use acetaminophen for relief of any soreness instead of an nsaid?
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Feb 21, 2021 17:47
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Iowa is renowned for having lovely case reporting which can have lag times of up to a month or more, I guess that caught up with them all of a sudden Update on this: it turns out that Iowa decided to switch from reporting the number of positive individuals to the number of positive tests. Since most people who test positive are tested several times that number will necessarily be MUCh higher than the number of positive individuals https://kwwl.com/2021/02/19/state-covid-19-dashboard-changing-to-reflect-total-and-positive-tests-kwwl-reporting-will-remain-the-same/ It's a sneaky way of gaming the positivity rates: quote:According to Garcia, the shift from individual tests to total tests means that their positivity rate will align with total test results. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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Feb 21, 2021 17:59
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:So could you just use acetaminophen for relief of any soreness instead of an nsaid? Tylenol is in that study and has similar effects to the other drugs.
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Feb 21, 2021 21:20
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jokes posted:Trump’s non-plan was to force everything open, and also say masks are dumb and “what coronavirus”? Biden's plan is to force open the schools and say "Science says the schools are safe!" when what science really says is that if every school follows the most stringent safety procedures, which they cannot and will not, they are hypothetically safe.
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Feb 21, 2021 21:26
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Animal-Mother posted:Biden's plan is to force open the schools and say "Science says the schools are safe!" when what science really says is that if every school follows the most stringent safety procedures, which they cannot and will not, they are hypothetically safe. Yeah if they're going by the CDC's safety protocols they should be shutting the gently caress down pretty much everywhere. Only about 10% of counties met the criteria for full in-person classes as of last Friday  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/map-which-counties-are-ready-schools-fully-open-n1258397
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Feb 21, 2021 21:37
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Lester Shy posted:I remember looking at some lovely data-aggegation website in March 2020 that predicted the virus would peak in the US sometime around May and feeling completely despondent. "I can't do two more months of this!" You know, I thought I'd be ok as a typical shut in goon but I'm getting kind of sick of it. Just seems like they're doing the worst possible approach with a bunch of half assed measures. Like there are a ton of restrictions, there's a curfew after nine pm, no large meetings, retail is still mostly closed, etc. But it's still barely flattening the curve, and ECUs are approaching capacity, and people are still pissed off about not having their pubs and circuses. Majority are favoring to open er up already. Now check this out:  The guy in the bottom row, closest to the camera, was the covid advisor to the PM. At a football game a few days ago. After advocating for stricter lockdowns. After the previous advisor resigned after being caught in a pub when that was banned. Why is there even a football game taking place you can go to, while some regions of the country are sealed off? And why is that guy, and another health minister, at that game? At least they're wearing masks and he resigned, but how difficult is it to... just not go while you're in charge of this poo poo? There are also a few dozen thousands AZ vaccines just sitting in storage because none of these brain geniuses thought about who's going to distribute them.
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Feb 21, 2021 22:54
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Platystemon posted:It did come as a surprise that China, Taiwan, Australia, and New Zealand were able to suppress it with basic public health measures, but also, having seen that, that most nations would be unwilling to do the same. It wasn't basic. "Basic" is what the US and Europe tried to do, pretending they could get a grip on it just by washing hands more and asking people to wear masks.
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Animal-Mother posted:Biden's plan is to force open the schools and say "Science says the schools are safe!" when what science really says is that if every school follows the most stringent safety procedures, which they cannot and will not, they are hypothetically safe. It's quite confusing, to be honest. Our schools were open for the second half of last year and it didn't cause any real problems but we were on top of contact tracing and we implemented varying degrees of lockdown when there were community outbreaks. The extent to which you can have various things open seems to depend a lot on what public health orders you have available and how quickly they can be activated. We've pretty much perfected near instant lockdown here.
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Feb 21, 2021 23:48
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Lolie posted:It's quite confusing, to be honest. Our schools were open for the second half of last year and it didn't cause any real problems but we were on top of contact tracing and we implemented varying degrees of lockdown when there were community outbreaks. It also depends on how compliant the public is, and how cooperative the local authorities are in enforcement. In some counties the sheriffs outright say they will not enforce curfew violations.
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stab posted:Don't think China's measures were basic there bub freebooter posted:It wasn't basic. "Basic" is what the US and Europe tried to do, pretending they could get a grip on it just by washing hands more and asking people to wear masks. You’re missing the point. The techniques used were already in the playbook.
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Platystemon posted:
Australia used its biosecurity and public health laws, but we also passed additional legislation because some of our existing legislation was ancient and not really adequate. Mandatory public health detention really wasn't something we were set up for enforcing because it's been so long since it was necessary. Some of our early, tragic, mistakes happened because of that.
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Platystemon posted:You’re missing the point. "Legally confine people to their homes unless they are exercising, buying food or can't work from home" was not in anybody's playbook before 2020. quote:This pandemic was the first time governments ordered their citizens to stay at home en masse to stop the spread of an infectious disease. We may never know for certain what the decisive measures were. ‘‘There isn’t a lot of science around lockdown measures,’’ she says. ‘‘No one had done lockdown before coronavirus. Maybe we wouldn’t have even thought of it had Wuhan not done it. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-we-beat-covid-part-one-the-way-in-20201210-p56mdr.html Border closures, in Australia at least, were also not part of the playbook: quote:It is interesting to read what the “Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza”, updated in 2019, has to say on major, contentious policies that have since defined Victoria’s – and Australia’s – experience. On quarantine? “Not recommended,” and “use of hotels is problematic”. On domestic travel restrictions and border closures? “Not recommended.” https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2020/october/1601474400/martin-mckenzie-murray/second-wave#mtr
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WrenP-Complete posted:Heya xeljanz comrade! Glad to hear you got your shots! Heck, yes!  I don't like taking the stuff but holy cow did it make a difference! My colleagues all had stronger reactions than I did, too. I really thought I'd be hard hit, too. Glad you're feeling better!
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freebooter posted:"Legally confine people to their homes unless they are exercising, buying food or can't work from home" was not in anybody's playbook before 2020. I think it's difficult for people to imagine the scale of the response here and how extreme it was at times. We did a lot wrong, especially in the early stages, but we got a lot of things right, too. Some other countries never really tried, and it baffles me. Lolie fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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