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yeah that makes sense. I just started night 1 myself. It's really weird with no announcers at all. At this point I really know know like the top 4-5 guys in NOAH so this will be a good way to learn the roster. Related to NOAH but unrelated to the N1 - at the tag title match recently the defending champions also had a second set of belts besides the GHC. What were those?
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Hellblazer187 posted:yeah that makes sense. I just started night 1 myself. It's really weird with no announcers at all. At this point I really know know like the top 4-5 guys in NOAH so this will be a good way to learn the roster. IIRC Sakuraba had them made for Sugiura and himself to commemorate their exhibition grappling match at a Quintet show.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 05:32 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:yeah that makes sense. I just started night 1 myself. It's really weird with no announcers at all. At this point I really know know like the top 4-5 guys in NOAH so this will be a good way to learn the roster. it might be because they've been running really tiny venues for some of those dates
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13/3/2021, Saturday 10am JST/12pm AEDT/1am GMT/8pm EST/5pm PST Gatoh Move ChocoPro 95 Ichigaya Chocolate Square, Tokyo Best Bros (Baliyan Akki & Mei Suruga) vs Emi Sakura & Sayaka Obihiro Chie Koishikawa & Chris Brookes vs Pencil Army (Lulu Pencil & Minoru Fujita) Live on Youtube 12pm JST/2pm AEDT/3am GMT/10pm EST/7pm PST NJPW Road To Strong Style Evolved Oceanview Pavilion, Port Hueneme Adrian Quest & Barrett Brown vs Logan Riegel & Sterling Riegel New Japan Cup USA Qualifying Match: Hikuleo vs Jordan Clearwater New Japan Cup USA Qualifying Match: Fred Rosser vs JR Kratos As live on NJPW World 12:30pm JST/2:30pm AEDT/3:30am GMT/10:30pm EST/7:30pm PST Stardom New Century 2021 in New SHINKIBA Shinkiba 1stRING, Tokyo AZM vs Lady C vs Saya Kamitani Donna Del Mondo (Himeka & Maika) vs STARS (Gokigen Death & Hanan) COSMIC ANGELS (Mina Shirakawa, Tam Nakano & Unagi Sayaka) vs Donna Del Mondo (Giulia, Natsupoi & Syuri) Oedo Tai (Bea Priestley & Konami) vs Queen's Quest (Momo Watanabe & Utami Hayashishita) Oedo Tai (Natsuko Tora, Ruaka & Saki Kashima) vs STARS (Mayu Iwatani, Saya Iida & Starlight Kid) Show presumably uploaded to Stardom World 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/9am GMT/4am EST/1am PST NJPW New Japan Cup Aichi Prefectural Gym, Nagoya CHAOS (Tomohiro Ishii, Toru Yano & YOSHI-HASHI) vs David Finlay, Gabriel Kidd & Yota Tsuji Suzukigun (DOUKI, Taichi & Zack Sabre Jr) vs United Empire (Great O Khan, Jeff Cobb & Will Ospreay) Kazuchika Okada, SHO & Yuji Nagata vs LIJ (BUSHI, SANADA & Tetsuya Naito) Bullet Club (Bad Luck Fale, EVIL & Jay White) vs Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson & Toa Henare New Japan Cup 2nd Round: KENTA vs Minoru Suzuki New Japan Cup 2nd Round: Hirooki Goto vs Shingo Takagi Live on NJPW World Dragon Gate Glorious Gate 2021 KBS Hall, Kyoto Ben-K & Kagetora vs Natural Vibes (Kzy & Susumu Yokosuka) U-T vs Yosuke♡Santa Maria RED (Dia Inferno, Diamante & Eita) vs Team Boku (Bokutimo Dragon, Punch Tominaga & Ryo Saito) Don Fujii & Yasushi Kanda vs Kenichiro Arai & Yasushi Kanda HIGH-END (Dragon Kid, Keisuke Okuda & YAMATO) vs RED (KAI, Kaito Ishida & SB KENTo) MASQUERADE (Jason Lee, Kota Minoura, La Estrella & Shun Skywalker) vs RED (BxB Hulk, HipHop Kikuta, HYO & KAZMA SAKAMOTO) Live on DG Network Also shows from Diana, Big Japan, JWP, Ice Ribbon & Colega 14/3/2021, Sunday 10am JST/12pm AEDT/1am GMT/9pm EDT/6pm PDT Gatoh Move ChocoPro 96 Ichigaya Chocolate Square, Tokyo Card TBA Live on Youtube 11:30am JST/1:30pm AEDT/2:30am GMT/10:30pm EDT/7:30pm PDT All Japan Dream Power Series Korakuen Hall, Tokyo Alejandro vs Atsuki Aoyagi vs Francesco Akira Black Menso~re, Ryuki Honda, Shuji Ishikawa & Takao Omori vs TOTAL ECLIPSE (Hokuto Omori, Koji Doi, Kuma Arashi & TAJIRI) Dan Tamura & Ryuji Hijikata vs Purple Haze (Izanagi & UTAMARO) Koji Iwamoto & Shotaro Ashino vs TOTAL ECLIPSE (Jake Lee & Yusuke Kodama) Evolution (Hikaru Sato & Suwama) vs Osamu Nishimura & Yoshitatsu AJPW Tag Team Titles: NEXTREAM (Kento Miyahara & Yuma Aoyagi)(c) vs Purple Haze (Shigehiro Irie & Zeus) Live on AJPW TV Stardom New Century 2021 in New SHINKIBA Shinjuku FACE, Tokyo AZM vs Lady C Donna Del Mondo (Giulia & Syuri) vs STARS (Hanan & Saya Iida) Oedo Tai (Bea Priestley & Konami) vs Queen's Quest (Momo Watanabe & Saya Kamitani) Oedo Tai (Natsuko Tora, Ruaka & Saki Kashima) vs STARS (Gokigen Death, Mayu Iwatani & Starlight Kid) Natsupoi vs Tam Nakano vs Utami Hayashishita Goddess of Stardom Titles: Donna Del Mondo (Himeka & Maika)(c) vs COSMIC ANGELS (Mina Shirakawa & Unagi Sayaka) Show presumably uploaded to Stardom World 3pm JST/5pm AEDT/6am GMT/2am EST/10pm PST Pro Wrestling NOAH Great Voyage In Fukuoka Fukuoka International Centre, Fukuoka Hajime Ohara, Shuhei Taniguchi & YO-HEY vs Kinya Okada, Yasutaka Yano & Yoshiki Inamura Akitoshi Saito vs Muhammad Yone Daisuke Harada & Kawei Fujimura vs Stinger (HAYATA & Yuya Susumu) Junta Miyawaki vs Yoshinari Ogawa) Kongo (Kenoh, Haoh & Nioh) vs Sugiuragun (Kazuyuki Fujita, Kendo Kashin & NOSAWA Rongai) GHC Junior Heavyweight Title: Seiki Yoshioka(c) vs Atsushi Kotoge Go Shiozaki, Kotaro Suzuki, Naomichi Marufuji & Takashi Sugiura vs Kongo (Katsuhiko Nakajima, Manabu Soya, Masa Kitamiya & Tadasuke) GHC Heavyweight Title: Keiji Mutoh(c) vs Kaito Kiyomiya Live & free on ABEMA (English commentary on Fite.tv if you want to pay $20 4pm JST/6pm AEDT/7am GMT/3am EDT/12am PDT NJPW New Japan Cup Baycom Gym, Hyogo I haven't seen most of the NJ Cup so I'm not spoiling myself, sorry. Thauros has the lineups in the NJ Cup thread Live on NJPW World 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/9am GMT/5am EDT/2am PDT DDT Day Dream Believer 2021 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo Hideki Okatani vs Toi Kojima Iron Man Heavymetalweight Title: Saki Akai Photo Book Lip Hip Shake(c), Antonio Honda & Saki Akai vs Danshoku Dieno, Keigo Nakamura & The Young Bucks Autobiography Killing The Business DAMNATION (Daisuke Sasaki & Mad Paulie) vs DDT Sauna Club (Konosuke Takeshita & MAO) vs Disaster Box (HARASHIMA & Toru Owashi) vs Yuki Iino & Yukio Naya Eruption (Kazusada Higuchi & Yukio Sakaguchi) vs Eruption (Jun Akiyama & Makoto Oishi) DDT Extreme Title: Shunma Katsumata(c) vs Chris Brookes KO-D 6 Man Tag Titles: Akito, Kazuki Hirata & Shota(c) vs DAMNATION (Soma Takao, Tetsuya Endo & Yuji Hino) DDT Universal Title: Yuki Ueno(c) vs Yusuke Okada Live on Wrestle Universe Also shows from Wave, 2AW, Big Japan & JWP 15/3/2021, Monday 10am JST/12pm AEDT/1am GMT/9pm EDT/6pm PDT Gatoh Move ChocoPro 97 Ichigaya Chocolate Square, Tokyo Card TBA Live on Youtube 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/9am GMT/5am EDT/2am PDT NJPW New Japan Cup Korakuen Hall, Tokyo I haven't seen most of the NJ Cup so I'm not spoiling myself, sorry. Thauros has the lineups in the NJ Cup thread Live on NJPW World Also Colega 16/3/2021, Tuesday 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/9am GMT/5am EDT/2am PDT NJPW New Japan Cup Korakuen Hall, Tokyo I haven't seen most of the NJ Cup so I'm not spoiling myself, sorry. Thauros has the lineups in the NJ Cup thread Live on NJPW World Also shows from Colega & Big Japan 17/3/2021, Wednesday 6pm JST/8pm AEDT/9am GMT/5am EDT/2am PDT SEAdLINNNG Grow Together! Korakuen Hall, Tokyo Get A Dream Tournament Round 1: Hiroyo Matsumoto & Itsuki Aoki vs Kaho Kobayashi & Ayame Sasamura Get A Dream Tournament Round 1: High Speed Corps (Chikayo Nagashima & Tsukushi Haruka) vs New Wind (Arisa Nakajima & Nanae Takahashi) Get A Dream Tournament Round 2: New Wind (Honori Hana & Riko Kawahata) vs Winner of match 1 Get A Dream Tournament Round 2: Las Fresa de Egoistas (Makoto & Riko Kaiju) vs Winner of match 2 Beyond The Sea Singles Title: Asuka vs Rina Yamashita Get A Dream Tournament Finals Also Colega 18/3/2021, Thursday 6:30pm JST/8:30pm AEDT/9:30am GMT/5:30am EDT/2:30am PDT NJPW New Japan Cup Korakuen Hall, Tokyo I haven't seen most of the NJ Cup so I'm not spoiling myself, sorry. Thauros has the lineups in the NJ Cup thread Live on NJPW World 7pm JST/9pm AEDT/10am GMT/6am EDT/3am PDT All Japan Crazy Monkey vs Giant Shinkiba 1stRING, Tokyo GAORA TV Title: Jun Kasai(c) vs Shuji Ishikawa Yes, it's a 1 match show & that 1 match is a death match Live on AJPW TV Also shows from DDT/Muscle & Colega 19/3/2021, Friday 6:30pm JST/8:30pm AEDT/9:30am GMT/5:30am EDT/2:30am PDT Dragon Gate Glorious Gate Sambo Hall, Kobe Card TBA Live on DG Network DDT Wrestling Okehazama Naka Sports Centre, Nagoya DAMNATION (Mad Paulie, Soma Takao & Yuji Hino) vs DDT Sauna Club (MAO, Shunma Katsumata & Yuki Ueno) Chris Brookes, Kazusada Higuchi & Keigo Nakamura vs HARASHIMA, Jun Akiyama & Makoto Oishi Rest of card TBA Uploaded to Wrestle Universe 22/3 Also shows from Colega & JTO
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 10:19 |
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#STRONGHEARTS have signed with GLEAT
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 12:09 |
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Makes sense, it's a Japanese indie promotion, of course Stronghearts will get involved. If Fuminori Abe doesn't appear I'd be mildly shocked too. Wonder if it includes Irie or if it's just the core trio. I also wonder if anyone has heard anything from Takehiro Yamamura. His Twitter has a video of him from last year doing some back bumps in a ring and then everything else seems to be promoting Stronghearts endeavours or his own DJing.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 14:15 |
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forkboy84 posted:Wonder if it includes Irie or if it's just the core trio. I also wonder if anyone has heard anything from Takehiro Yamamura. His Twitter has a video of him from last year doing some back bumps in a ring and then everything else seems to be promoting Stronghearts endeavours or his own DJing. Yamamura is djing full-time now in Kobe. If he was wrestling in America with his neck and back injuries, a doctor wouldn’t clear him a second time to return, but I can’t rule it out (he really shouldn’t ever come back it’s going to be a ticking clock until he gets more hurt/perhaps paralyzed.) LIDET and STH was a long time coming. After GLEAT was announced, it was expected they’d end up there as CIMA will chase the bag and T and Linda are still attached to him for better or for worse. When CIMA was announced for the Zero One for the sumo hall show/Lindaman got strapped up I figured plans changed.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 14:36 |
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forkboy84 posted:Makes sense, it's a Japanese indie promotion, of course Stronghearts will get involved. If Fuminori Abe doesn't appear I'd be mildly shocked too. I don't mean signed as in making appearances, I mean contracted. It's CIMA/T-Hawk/Lindaman/Onizuka
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 14:44 |
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I don't mean signed as in making appearances, I mean contracted. It's CIMA/T-Hawk/Lindaman/Onizuka Huh. OK. Signed exclusively or? I'm just wondering about the AJPW Junior title. I really don't know what GLEAT is even meant to be, I know it's not meant to be an exclusively shootstyle promotion but actually signing Stronghearts to a contract still seems kind of odd, relative to the little I've seen from them thus far. Not necessarily a bad thing, just not sure what they are trying to be.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 16:54 |
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The English commentary NOAH shows eventually make it to Wrestle Universe, right? Roughly how long after airing?
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 17:06 |
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forkboy84 posted:Huh. OK. Signed exclusively or? I'm just wondering about the AJPW Junior title. It'll be their home promotion but I'm sure they're still gonna be working everywhere. The first show isn't even until July. They did shut down their merch store apparently though. I don't think GLEAT has really established an identity for what their non-shoot style division will be yet, maybe Stronghearts can help with that
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 17:10 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:The English commentary NOAH shows eventually make it to Wrestle Universe, right? Roughly how long after airing? Really depends. Last one went out live. The one before that was about a month. I think Fite get exclusivity for a while.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 17:12 |
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forkboy84 posted:DDT Day Dream Believer 2021 Junretsu becoming a subgroup within Eruption, you love to see it
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 17:12 |
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Daylight Savings Time is going to ruin me. On the bright side I got so much wrestling to watch over the weekend.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 18:13 |
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Was Shiozaki always this good? Like I've seen 4 of his matches from his recently ended title reign, all incredible. But I understand from Wikipedia he'd been champ a bunch of times before. Were his previous reigns this epic?
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 20:58 |
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I found his easlier NOAH runs lacking but that probably was because he was forced into the champion spot due to Misawa's death and Akiyama being injured. And well that's really a difficult spot for anyone to do good in even if they do have talent
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 21:27 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:Was Shiozaki always this good? Like I've seen 4 of his matches from his recently ended title reign, all incredible. But I understand from Wikipedia he'd been champ a bunch of times before. Were his previous reigns this epic? Not quite, but he was always viewed as having the potential to be this good. To cement himself as THE ace of NOAH. I remember the first time I ever saw him in singles action, on an ROH UK show in 2006 (same weekend of the outrageous Danielson Nigel World/Pure title unification match) against BJ Whitmer, I think in the opener & the match was definitely one of the 3 best on a show that featured Nigel, Cabana, Danielson, Roddy, The Briscoes, The Kings of Wrestling. You could tell he had something. But he got elevated to the GHC title in NOAH at a bad time, & then he left NOAH after their poor treatment of Kobashi & went to All Japan at a time where almost as soon as he & Akiyama & Suzuki & Aoki & Kanemaru arrived Mutoh & a bunch of his guys left to form Wrestle-1. So a lot of it was timing & other stuff getting in the way, but yeah, this was the time where he firmly established himself as arguably the best wrestler on the planet for 12 months, where everything clicked.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 23:51 |
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He was lacking something his first run with NOAH and just didn't get the time to work on it cause of Misawa's death. His series with Tanahashi in 2010 shows it as the match they had in NOAH was very much Tanahashi standing out proving he was the guy while Shiozaki was just there
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 02:46 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:Was Shiozaki always this good? Like I've seen 4 of his matches from his recently ended title reign, all incredible. Hmm, I might want to go back and do this since I only got a Universe sub in time to see him drop the title. Just start when he won it and watch every defense? Anything I should add or skip?
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 04:32 |
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Whether he was that good back then, watch this match anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbxiumNZoxs Katsuhiko Nakajima & Kensuke Sasaki vs. Go Shiozaki & Kenta Kobashi (NOAH 5/11/2005)
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 04:37 |
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Penguin Patrol posted:Hmm, I might want to go back and do this since I only got a Universe sub in time to see him drop the title. Just start when he won it and watch every defense? Anything I should add or skip? His defence against Saito is the weakest, and can be skipped if you don't much care about their history and the Misawa connection. Past that his N-1 tour was very solid, the matches with Mochizuki and Kitamiya being my favourite
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 07:42 |
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The Kaito N1 Block Final is also very good
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 09:16 |
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I actually really like the Saito defense as it was basically group therapy for both men and was extremely cathartic. The Marufuji defense doesn't seem to be in Wrestle Universe still (but it's great)
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 09:36 |
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Boco_T posted:Whether he was that good back then, watch this match anyway
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 22:01 |
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forkboy84 posted:3pm JST/5pm AEDT/6am GMT/2am EST/10pm PST This is live now, come watch Mutoh lose the belt
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 06:54 |
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I will watch Kiyomiya beat up an old man.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 07:01 |
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I predict Mutoh will say "gently caress" or "motherfucker" at least 15 times in this match.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 07:02 |
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Pylons posted:I predict Mutoh will say "gently caress" or "motherfucker" at least 15 times in this match. As long as he doesn't try another sad looking handspring i'll be happy. Also ItohRespectArmy has lent use of the DDT GDT so we don't poo poo up this thread with ramblings
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 07:04 |
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drat starts an hour earlier than new japan. if it were the same time could def watch main afterwards
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 07:24 |
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lol Kiyomiya
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 10:18 |
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Pylons posted:I predict Mutoh will say "gently caress" or "motherfucker" at least 15 times in this match. He said it like 4 or 5 times, I was way off.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 10:22 |
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https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1371029515766484992 Seems bad! Anyway, so that was my first real taste of NOAH (besides watching a couple of Go's matches from last year) and if I had to summarize my feelings, they would be when's the next Dragon Gate show?
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 10:27 |
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But it comes with a free frogurt
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 10:32 |
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1371029515766484992 He's had his shoulder taped since the better part of last year, so this is a good thing. I thought their multiman match was really good, while the other Kongoh multiman blew because of fucken Kendo Kasshin I'll watch the VOD of the main event later but... arrrrrrrrgh they're really giving him an extended title run huh (unless Kitamiya caves Mutoh's head in with a shoot headbutt, actually please no)
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 11:14 |
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Will the suffering ever end? (I was 99% sure Muto wasn't dropping the belt at V0 but I had some hope.) The show was mostly fine. The young boy squad continues to impress me. Yoshioka/Kotoge was pretty good with a baffling result. Main event was a match. In my opinion Kiyomiya wasn't elevated at all and Kitamiya will most likely suffer the same fate. MJeff posted:Anyway, so that was my first real taste of NOAH (besides watching a couple of Go's matches from last year) and if I had to summarize my feelings, they would be when's the next Dragon Gate show? The next bigger DG show is Memorial Gate on the 27th.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 12:00 |
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1371029515766484992 Bad in the short term, good in the long term because he REALLY needs a break. I hope he can be back for the big Cyberfight show but who knows? Haven't seen this show yet but man that result of the main is a bummer, if not entirely shocking. As for DG, if you sub to DG now you should be able to catch the 2 nights of Champion Gate from last weekend before they get taken down until they air on Japanese TV. If Night 1 is down though I'll link you to a Bilibili stream of it. Though Night 2 is the much better night of the weekend and Shun vs Ishida is one of the best matches of the year so far. The next live show is on the 19th (& I just checked, they just uploaded the English commentary for Champion Gate so you will be able to watch those)
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 15:15 |
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How much of DG has English commentary? The faction stuff sounds convoluted to an outsider like me and I heard they like to do long promos so being able to understand those would help me appreciate the promotion more, I think.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 17:30 |
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Lily Catts posted:How much of DG has English commentary? The faction stuff sounds convoluted to an outsider like me and I heard they like to do long promos so being able to understand those would help me appreciate the promotion more, I think. Every Korakuen and Big Event has English commentary either live or after the fact, so about 1-3 times a month. The current English commentator (jae) knows Japanese so he tries to live translate the promos to the best of his ability. He is also the most knowledgeable person about the history of the Dragon System.
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# ? Mar 14, 2021 17:40 |
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Lily Catts posted:How much of DG has English commentary? The faction stuff sounds convoluted to an outsider like me and I heard they like to do long promos so being able to understand those would help me appreciate the promotion more, I think. The faction stuff is really quite straightforward. There's one big heel faction, at present RED (stands for Real Extreme Diffusion), it's been around since 2018, Eita is the top guy. It's a continuation of ANTIAS (which was only around for about 6 months), which in turn was a continuation of VerserK. We've got a bunch of change happening coming out of the generation battles of 2020 but the other main groups so far are Masquerade, led by Shun Skywalker, HIGH-END which is seemingly lead by YAMATO and Team Boku which is basically a mess and will probably be wrapped up before too long when Bokutimo Dragon loses his mask to Diamante. We know this because Naruki Doi has said he's done with them. They have gotten much more English shows up. As said, the once a month Korakuen show is usually live with English commentary, as are the bigger shows. But you can also expect most shows to get English commentary uploaded within a week, if you can wait. I'd also say that if you have the time, the Open The Voice Gate podcast is really worth listening to if you follow DG, they give good breakdowns of the shows but also good analysis and Mike and Case have knowledge of the DG system that is second only to Jae among English speaking fans.
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Also I'm posting this here for anyone who doesn't read the MOTYC thread: You really should make the time to watch Shun Skywalker vs Kaito Ishida from the 7th March. It's about as good as Dragon Gate gets, absolutely fantastic match between 2 of the best young wrestlers in the world (Shun is 24, Kaito is 25). It's a pretty good litmus test for whether Dragon Gate will be for you from an in-ring perspective: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1254y1a7eX
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