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quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

Anyone have anything that they want added to the thread OP or changed in it?

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packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Finished The Unspoken Name and loved it. Really interesting world and great characters, twisty plot, good poo poo. Can't wait for the next one. Also very, very glad to read a lesbian sf/f story, especially the first book of a series, where one or both of them doesn't die at the end. Seems to be an epidemic of that lately.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Hey cool I’m almost halfway through The Unspoken Name and I really like it.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Huh. Kristine Kathryn Rusch is writing a novella set in the universe of her "fey" series and funding it via kickstarter. Anyone read these? Are they work picking up?

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006


quantumfoam posted:

Anyone have anything that they want added to the thread OP or changed in it?

OP looks good to me. Glad you are putting in the effort to keep it up to date.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Lavie Tidhar curated the latest Storybundle. There are ten weird books in this one.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
A man lies bundling

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011

StrixNebulosa posted:

Lavie Tidhar curated the latest Storybundle. There are ten weird books in this one.

I don't know most of them, but the Cassandra Khaw is good. That's a fun little series.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

Between Two Fires is rad as hell. I love Christian mythology being used in weird ways.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


StrixNebulosa posted:

Becky Chambers is your next stop!

I wanted to thank you for this recommendation - I jumped in with The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet and am about halfway through and am enjoying it a lot.

Does anyone have recommendations for places to get audiobooks for good prices? I signed up for audible and $14/month per credit seems fair, but trying to buy audiobooks outside of the credit format seems a lot more expensive than it should be.

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020

Llamadeus posted:

I've definitely seen it repeated before, but it's far from being an overwhelming consensus.

The last three are also often considered to be weaker from what I've seen. (Okay this is actually probably just confirmation bias on my part)

I think they all had more engaging action-adventure plotlines than the earlier books. Surface Detail in particular I enjoyed because of the number of viewpoints.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
They're more indulgent in 'Culture stuff' which I think is to their detriment. If by the last three we mean Matter, Surface Detail and Hydrogen Sonata.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

Ccs posted:

Hey cool I’m almost halfway through The Unspoken Name and I really like it.

Sorry if I spoiled you. :shobon:

Yarrington
Jun 13, 2002

While I will admit to a certain cynicism, I am a nay-sayer and hatchet man in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another.

A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

I wanted to thank you for this recommendation - I jumped in with The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet and am about halfway through and am enjoying it a lot.

Does anyone have recommendations for places to get audiobooks for good prices? I signed up for audible and $14/month per credit seems fair, but trying to buy audiobooks outside of the credit format seems a lot more expensive than it should be.

For audible don't buy anything outside of credits unless its on sale. The daily deals generally good and they run fairly regular 2 for 1 sales. If the kindle version is on sale you can often get it cheaper by buying that and then doing the 'add audible' to it.

Much better though is using Overdrive/Libby through your local library. They have a surprisingly good selection of e-Audiobooks

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

Just got my first ebook through overdrive on my, like, 2nd generation kindle and I'm in awe.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Overdrive is great but it can really depend on your local library. The ones here in Melbourne aren't all allied with each other (i.e. sharing one big repository that anybody with a library card from different libraries can still use) and it sucks because the network in my local council area of libraries has a paltry ebook collection of maybe 3,000 so it's not even worth bothering with. I'm fortunate in that I still have my library cards from when I used to live in Western Australia and London, and both of those places have enormous allied library networks with a shared pool of something like 50,000 ebooks each.

There's no online Overdrive library that's just totally free for anybody in the world to sign up for, is there? I assume there isn't because I don't see how it would benefit anybody's taxpayer base, which is what's funding Western Australia and London's huge networks.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


freebooter posted:

Overdrive is great but it can really depend on your local library. The ones here in Melbourne aren't all allied with each other (i.e. sharing one big repository that anybody with a library card from different libraries can still use) and it sucks because the network in my local council area of libraries has a paltry ebook collection of maybe 3,000 so it's not even worth bothering with. I'm fortunate in that I still have my library cards from when I used to live in Western Australia and London, and both of those places have enormous allied library networks with a shared pool of something like 50,000 ebooks each.

There's no online Overdrive library that's just totally free for anybody in the world to sign up for, is there? I assume there isn't because I don't see how it would benefit anybody's taxpayer base, which is what's funding Western Australia and London's huge networks.

Even if they're not free it doesn't take much to beat 1 book a month for $15 with audible.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


So I finished The Unspoken Name. I really liked it! Probably the best book I’ve gotten free from Tor aside from Baru #1 (which I had already read from the library, just grabbed the download so I’d own it.)

On GoodReads I was surprised to see a lot of people didn’t care for it. The top review is from someone who stopped reading a 60% (and it seems super lovely for the top goddamn review to be from someone who didn’t read the whole book.) I can understand some of the critiques. The protagonist is a little underdeveloped because large parts of her adolescence is skipped over. In a more traditional fantasy series we’d be shown all her skill acquisition in excruciating detail. The material in this first book could probably sustain a trilogy, but I was glad for the economical storytelling. I suppose the author could have punched up the protagonists emotions to let her leave more of an impression on the page, as it felt like a few of the other characters had a stronger voice to their thoughts. There were instances where a bit of bluntness or unexpected humor would come through which livened up the prose, and it could have used even more of that.

Overall though I don’t know how readers were bored with a story that zipped so steadily through diverse locations and cool set pieces and character moments. The author of Gideon the Ninth is namechecked in the acknowledgments and that book has near universal acclaim yet I was much more bored during large stretches in the First House where characters walked around the same areas and were too numerous to keep track of than during any part of The Unspoken Name. Gideon did have more humor though so I guess that’s part of it. More jokes!

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
If you call reheated decade-old memes "humor," I guess. :v:

Csirwe's reservedness made sense to me, honestly. She endures abuse throughout the whole drat book, and it's only at the end that she realizes she can spend time with people she actually likes - she's a lot more ebullient around Shuthmili. I also enjoyed seeing the more forceful characters through her lens, since a lot of other authors try to make their main character a quip-a-minute Joss Whedon escapee and nobody else really has room to breathe.

eta: fixed weird wording

packetmantis fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Mar 12, 2021

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

From one of the Covid threads:

BattleMaster posted:

speaking of covid denial, notorious racist H. P. Lovecraft, who was racist even for his time and told to tone it down by colleagues, would have been anti-lockdown today


H. P. Lovecraft to Lillian D. Clark, 2 December 1925 posted:

:

I was indeed glad to see the added mention of Dr. Chapin, who is certainly coming into his own at last. During the influenza epidemic he began his emergence into national publicity, for it was upon his advice that Dr. Copeland, then Supt. of Health of N.Y. City, (now a Senator at Washington) made his momentous recommendation that no places of publick assemblage be closed. This recommendation was adopted in New York, but according to the old rule of the prophet's honour in his own country was not adopted in Providence—where, you will recall, schools & theatres were closed for a considerable period. Chapin mantained that as much congestion & contagion—perhaps more—occurs when people are excluded from their usual haunts, as when they are suffered to go their own way without interference.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
That's odd, I would have thought he would be pro-lockdown considering how afraid he was of literally everything.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Lol I guess there's just something about being a huge racist and being against lockdowns that's consistent through the ages.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Between Two Fires is rad as hell. I love Christian mythology being used in weird ways.

I literally just finished reading his Vampire novel The Lesser Dead an hour ago, and thought it was great. Would recommend.

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Oct 31, 2003

pradmer posted:

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As someone who mostly enjoyed Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City but had an issue with the "ending".... Should I read this?

Simbyotic
Aug 24, 2010

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GoodluckJonathan posted:

As someone who mostly enjoyed Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City but had an issue with the "ending".... Should I read this?

It's the most Parker of everything K.J. Parker ever wrote. It's the most ambitious thing he's ever written, that's for sure, and as a fan I think he nails it though I don't think it's for everyone. Do note that while there might be 3 books, this is not really a trilogy per se, but just a big rear end story divided in three books (it was initially published as a monthly serial).

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


GoodluckJonathan posted:

As someone who mostly enjoyed Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City but had an issue with the "ending".... Should I read this?

Have you read the sequel to City? It tied things up pretty well I thought.

Anyway it was me who missed out on the previous Two Swords sale so I grabbed it this time! I’ve read 6 of Parker’s books, loved 3 of them, was kind of ambivalent on 2, couldn’t finish 1. Hopefully this falls into the majority camp.

Ccs fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 13, 2021

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Another Philip K. Dick Award shortlistee knocked off: 1987's Becoming Alien by Rebecca Ore. Quite a weird one. A teenager in backwater Virginia rescues a survivor from a spaceship crash, one thing leads to another and he gets enlisted as a cadet in a multi-species galactic federation. Not at all the kind of book I was expecting; it's quite dense, very serious and often difficult to read, basically exploring xenophobia and the way that lots of intelligent species have developed social traits based on their deep-level ancestral instincts. Also it's more or less plotless. One of those books I didn't quite like but definitely admired, and would recommend if it sounds like the kind of thing you'd be interested in.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

Ccs posted:

Have you read the sequel to City? It tied things up pretty well I thought.

No, I haven't. The impression I got from finishing the book is the author abruptly decided he didn't want to spend any more time with the story and just... stopped. Turned me off reading the sequel.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


GoodluckJonathan posted:

No, I haven't. The impression I got from finishing the book is the author abruptly decided he didn't want to spend any more time with the story and just... stopped. Turned me off reading the sequel.

It’s just Parker pulling his usual “things are going great, they’re still in a bit of a tight spot but overall almost in the clear, aw gently caress now everything is poo poo” ending that he likes to do.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(

GoodluckJonathan posted:

No, I haven't. The impression I got from finishing the book is the author abruptly decided he didn't want to spend any more time with the story and just... stopped. Turned me off reading the sequel.

Whaaaat? Huh, definitely not the feeling I got. I liekd the ending, even if it was a bit abrupt. Kept the book tight and nice. I would've liked it to keep going with the same pace, but nothing good lasts forever. I got the sequel lined up for later this year.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Was looking for some detective fantasy and saw some recommendations of Low Town by Daniel Polansky. Anyone read it?

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Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

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theblackw0lf posted:

Was looking for some detective fantasy and saw some recommendations of Low Town by Daniel Polansky. Anyone read it?
Yeah, it's pretty good. A bit rougher and darker than your typical fantasy detective stuff.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



theblackw0lf posted:

Was looking for some detective fantasy and saw some recommendations of Low Town by Daniel Polansky. Anyone read it?

I don’t remember much about it, I don’t think? Main character is a criminal of some kind? Brothel owner or drug dealer?

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Apr 15, 2018

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Between Two Fires is rad as hell. I love Christian mythology being used in weird ways.

Deptfordx posted:

I literally just finished reading his Vampire novel The Lesser Dead an hour ago, and thought it was great. Would recommend.


I hosed myself up reading nothing but work-related material for like eight years and broke my fiction-fast with Between Two Fires this morning in about five hours
Gonna hit up The Lesser Dead tonight/tomorrow morning I reckon
Thanks fam

Ceebees
Nov 2, 2011

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navyjack posted:

I don’t remember much about it, I don’t think? Main character is a criminal of some kind? Brothel owner or drug dealer?

Yeah, drug dealer. I found it a bit trite in the protagonist being an incredible omnicompetent badass, and it (and especially the sequels) could have used an editor pass for typos. But it was entertaining enough, and had the occasional clever turn of phrase.

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Oct 9, 2012

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theblackw0lf posted:

Was looking for some detective fantasy and saw some recommendations of Low Town by Daniel Polansky. Anyone read it?

Found it OK though thanks to random chance I read in the lose succession to other works that did the (End of book spoilers) vain evil sorceress thing, which also lead to me completely losing interest in the Rivers of London series after the forth book because I was just so tired of it and I didn't think it folloved from what came before it.

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Sep 15, 2010

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Ceebees posted:

Yeah, drug dealer. I found it a bit trite in the protagonist being an incredible omnicompetent badass, and it (and especially the sequels) could have used an editor pass for typos. But it was entertaining enough, and had the occasional clever turn of phrase.

It's better than this recommendation. Read it, but don't expect Low Town to change your life.

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