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latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


ChubbyChecker posted:

benioff and weiss would be a good fit for the wheel of times series

How dare you. Mods!

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pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

latinotwink1997 posted:

How dare you. Mods!

They should really only do the last 3 seasons.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


pseudanonymous posted:

They should really only do the last 3 seasons.

I guess they at least have a complete story to work off of. But no, they would butcher it somehow.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

nurmie posted:

Holy poo poo, I thought the whole "promoted an intern based on his **brilliant** idea" thing was, like, a bit or something :stare:

What the gently caress

Trump's Director of the White House Personnel Office was literally a sandwich delivery boy he hired during a tantrum because the guy just happened to be there, iirc.

Vichan posted:

And after going back to the Faceless Men to let them know that she killed her teacher Jaqen says "now a girl is no-one."

It's such a non-nonsensical thing to say and the ONLY reason it is said is so that Arya could go "No, I'm Arya Stark of Winterfell and I'm going home. :smuggo:"

And this could've still been played as "Jaqen acknowledges this is no-one undertaking their first role" by decent writers. Even if their god tells them "let her live (for now) because she's vital for stopping the literal end of the world" that's going to stop the moment Arya's task (killing Dracoola) is finished and she either returns as no-one or she dies on that boat she boarded in her final scene. As dumb as Dany's ending was, Arya's was just so much worse.

ChubbyChecker posted:

benioff and weiss would be a good fit for the wheel of times series

I unironically want them to work on the Kingkiller Chronicle stuff because those two and Rothfuss deserve each other.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Evil Fluffy posted:

I unironically want them to work on the Kingkiller Chronicle stuff because those two and Rothfuss deserve each other.

Hahaha yes please.

TERFherder
Apr 26, 2010

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Vichan posted:

And after going back to the Faceless Men to let them know that she killed her teacher Jaqen says "now a girl is no-one."

It's such a non-nonsensical thing to say and the ONLY reason it is said is so that Arya could go "No, I'm Arya Stark of Winterfell and I'm going home. :smuggo:"

F you for reminding me of this and making me sperg.

* Arya never becomes "no one". To do this is to lose all sense of identity - It is some sort of zen poo poo, or borg assimilation, or Empty Vessel for the Death God. There is no indication this happens at ANY level with Arya. Even her snuffing the candle is a reference to a theoretical special skill she has as Arya ( warging )

* The only way this makes sense is if Arya was killed and the other girl assassin took her place. In which case this scene is pretty funny.
Jaqen: Welp we finally got her to be 'no one'
[Laugh Track]
Bald Girl: I know look at me, I'm an Arya Stark, lol -
[Does Arya impression, petulant voice]" I'm Arya Stark of Winterfell and I'm going home"
Jaqun: Yeah that is pretty good, get out of here. Go kill that Night King dude - fucker owes Braavos 2000 years of interest on his payday loan

I mean that is pretty good dark humor there.

An Aside: I swear to god - Arya and Jaquen's names are some sort of Who's on First bullshit that GRRM wrote in his head.
Jaqen: So who are ya?
Bald girl: Arya
Jaqen: No that's what I'm asking! Who are ya?
Bald girl: I'm Arya, Who are you?
Jaqen: I'm Jaqen
Bald girl: Who are you Jacking?
Jaqen: I just told you! I'm Jaquen. Who are you?
Bald girl: Me Arya. You... are jacking someone?
Jaqen: You aren't me. I'm Jaqen H'ghar
Bald girl: Jacking here? I didn't need to know that
Jaqen: Then why'd you ask my name?
Bald girl: I asked your name, not if and when and how you are jackin'
Jaqen: I'm only Jaqen when I need to be. points to the row upon row of faces
[Laugh Track]
Cleaning guy walks in, bows: Arya. Jaqen H'ghar.
Arya: That's what I'm trying to find out!
[seinfeld music or something]

TERFherder fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Mar 15, 2021

TERFherder
Apr 26, 2010

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Sassy Sasquatch posted:

The thing is unlike GRRM, :crobear: has absolutely no focus or vision and the reason his project is not going anywhere is not a lack of will but a lack of competence.

It seems like they both have a vision, but their lack of oversight ( Editor / Project Manager ) has resulted in scope creep far beyond their ability to deliver. I do see what you mean about Roberts promising everything, but it being literally impossible. This compared to GRRM who could theoretically finish the novels - but I don't think GRRM has ever been capable of wrapping this poo poo up.

Maybe they both cut a deal with the devil.

*GRRM would get to write a best selling Trilogy ( The twist: He wouldn't get to stop after 3 books; Would be hounded the rest of his life, and would see his grand vision ruined by hacks)

*Roberts would get to create a game that brought in over 300 million dollars ( The twist: wouldn't ever launch; Would be hounded the rest of his life, and would see his grand vision ruined by whomever buys his bankrupt IP in 2030 ).

I'll watch the video you linked. I've spent about 8 hours so far just reading through reddit threads and sa threads. It's pretty glorious.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


Evil Fluffy posted:

I unironically want them to work on the Kingkiller Chronicle stuff because those two and Rothfuss deserve each other.

A match made in heaven.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Evil Fluffy posted:

I unironically want them to work on the Kingkiller Chronicle stuff because those two and Rothfuss deserve each other.

Didn't Rothfuss once say that the two books he's published and the one book he has so far failed to publish, all of them over 500 pages in length, were actually just the prologue to the real story he wants to tell one day? I seem to remember him saying that at one point or another.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Chris Roberts has been known as the living embodiment of Feature Creep for at least two decades. When Star Citizen was announced and I saw friends getting hyped about them I literally shouted at one of them "you played Freelancer, you've seen what sort of unfinished mess he creates on his own." Freelancer was kinda fun to fly around and explore with friends in multiplayer but it was an imbalanced mess of a game, had a ton of unfinished and unused content, simplistic gameplay, a pretty whatever story, and only came out because Microsoft had the leverage to say "release what you have or else" and Star Citizen doesn't have that.


The best thing about Star Citizen is that Elite: Dangerous is going to have done all the things Roberts claims Star Citizen will do, but better, and with actual iteration and expansions to a game that people have been able to enjoy for years. However you can't pay $10,000+ for JPEGs of spaceships in Elite like you can with Star Citizen.

nine-gear crow posted:

Didn't Rothfuss once say that the two books he's published and the one book he has so far failed to publish, all of them over 500 pages in length, were actually just the prologue to the real story he wants to tell one day? I seem to remember him saying that at one point or another.

IIRC it was something like the first three books are the first of three trilogies. He also claimed the books were all finished back when the first one came out and so all 3 would release quickly.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Alhazred posted:

No that's a stupid reason. Nuclear physics was considered "jewish science" and Hitler was completely uninterested in it. They didn't have a lot of uranium and repeatedly failed to start a chain reaction with what they had. And lastly the german scientists actually had ethical qualms about using nuclear power for military use and silently agreed to develop it for civilian uses only (one of the german scientists became so distressed about the nuclear bombings of Japan that his colleagues feared he would commit suicide).

Oh ok, I'll tell the writers of the sci-fi alternate dimension show that their show where tech is stolen by reaching into other realities is not what really happened lol

The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Mar 16, 2021

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

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Alhazred posted:

No that's a stupid reason. Nuclear physics was considered "jewish science" and Hitler was completely uninterested in it. They didn't have a lot of uranium and repeatedly failed to start a chain reaction with what they had. And lastly the german scientists actually had ethical qualms about using nuclear power for military use and silently agreed to develop it for civilian uses only (one of the german scientists became so distressed about the nuclear bombings of Japan that his colleagues feared he would commit suicide).
yeah, that always seemed like the most unbelievable part of that counterfactual. I wonder how Hitler and other Nazi true believers would have resolved the cognitive dissonance of JEWISH relativity and nuclear physics creating such an awesome weapon.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

The Nazis couldn't take over the world or defeat the US but the war could have easily ended with something other than total nazi surrender, and Europe could have looked very different today.
i've been working my way through The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and the author frequently highlights all the opportunities to knock the UK out of the war before they attacked the Soviets or the Soviets out before the US entered the war that were squandered because Hitler was a terrible strategist. live by the megalomaniacal gamble, die by the megalomaniacal gamble. I don't think Hitler would've ever stopped gambling and he would have lost eventually, but if he had been deposed/assassinated a conditional peace could have happened.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Mr. Fix It posted:

yeah, that always seemed like the most unbelievable part of that counterfactual. I wonder how Hitler and other Nazi true believers would have resolved the cognitive dissonance of JEWISH relativity and nuclear physics creating such an awesome weapon.

i've been working my way through The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and the author frequently highlights all the opportunities to knock the UK out of the war before they attacked the Soviets or the Soviets out before the US entered the war that were squandered because Hitler was a terrible strategist. live by the megalomaniacal gamble, die by the megalomaniacal gamble. I don't think Hitler would've ever stopped gambling and he would have lost eventually, but if he had been deposed/assassinated a conditional peace could have happened.

Once Russia started to push back and the d-day landing succeeded Germany was hosed and there was no way anything short of unconditional surrender would’ve been accepted by Stalin, Churchill, or FDR.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Evil Fluffy posted:

Once Russia started to push back and the d-day landing succeeded Germany was hosed and there was no way anything short of unconditional surrender would’ve been accepted by Stalin, Churchill, or FDR.

oh, for sure, I'm thinking more in 1941-1943, tho i think the writing was on the wall once the US entered the war.

TERFherder
Apr 26, 2010

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Evil Fluffy posted:

The best thing about Star Citizen is that Elite: Dangerous is going to have done all the things Roberts claims Star Citizen will do, but better, and with actual iteration and expansions to a game that people have been able to enjoy for years. However you can't pay $10,000+ for JPEGs of spaceships in Elite like you can with Star Citizen.

Seems to me ED is leaving a lot of cash on the table by NOT pulling this custom spaceship crap. That is just a staggering amount of money SC has gone through. I'm surprised they didn't just buy a competitor around the 50M mark.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

TERFherder posted:

Seems to me ED is leaving a lot of cash on the table by NOT pulling this custom spaceship crap. That is just a staggering amount of money SC has gone through. I'm surprised they didn't just buy a competitor around the 50M mark.

Roberts' ego would never let him do that.

And E:D isn't run by conmen so they aren't likely to sell custom ships like that either.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Mr. Fix It posted:

oh, for sure, I'm thinking more in 1941-1943, tho i think the writing was on the wall once the US entered the war.

The german army literally ran out of gas in the middle of invading Soviet. They couldn't get their tanks rolling or their planes in the air. There's no scenario where Germany wins unless if that scenario include magic (and even then the nazis would find a way to gently caress it up).

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

drat wrong thread. Uuh... GRRM bad.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Alhazred posted:

The german army literally ran out of gas in the middle of invading Soviet. They couldn't get their tanks rolling or their planes in the air. There's no scenario where Germany wins unless if that scenario include magic (and even then the nazis would find a way to gently caress it up).

I've read a story like that. The Nazis managed to ally themselves to a spirit of pure entropy, a being capable of eating even information. It magicked all the Nazis' enemies to death and then hosed off, leaving the Nazis in control of the planet. For a while. Then the stars started going out. Oops!

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
theres a comic book about the holocaust being a massive ritual to summon the nordic pantheon of gods to win the war for the nazis, but then other people start doing heinous poo poo to get their gods to show up and the war shifts to being the gods of every where destroying every thing and humanity desperate to get rid of them. and the nazis lose

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

You want a WW2 counterfactual with the Nazis on the winning side?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks

quote:

On January 17, 1941, seven days after the German–Soviet Border and Commercial Agreement, Molotov asked German officials whether the parties could then work out an agreement for entry to the Axis Pact.[63][90] Molotov expressed astonishment at the absence of any answer to the Soviets' November 25 offer to join the pact[90] and never received an answer.[90] On March 1, 1941, Bulgaria joined the Axis, which further unsettled Stalin after Germany had continued to ignore Stalin's November 25, 1940 Axis entry proposal.[91] After six months of preparations, Germany invaded the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941, which ended any hope for the proposed alliance.

I've never heard of any alt-history fiction that used this as a premise, which astonishes me, considering that (a) it would have only taken Germany's assent to become reality, and (b) a "USA+UK as the heroic besieged underdogs against a massive Eurasian block" scenario sounds exactly up the alley of American pulp writers (although I'd personally be more interested in a three-way Cold War between Germany, USSR and Japan).

Granted, the Soviets buried up these talks pretty well in the post-war. But they've been confirmed public knowledge since the '90s at least.

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Mar 16, 2021

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Fighting the communists is the Nazi end goal though. There's a reason they didn't let the Soviets in.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

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PittTheElder posted:

Fighting the communists is the Nazi end goal though. There's a reason they didn't let the Soviets in.

And that's what's so depressing about dumbfuck american politics.

They took the Simpsons McBain joke "I'm under attack from communist nazis" and turned it into a whole political party.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

And that's what's so depressing about dumbfuck american politics.

They took the Simpsons McBain joke "I'm under attack from communist nazis" and turned it into a whole political party.

I remember seeing clips of Glenn Beck on :foxnews: in like 2009 at the height of his popularity throwing big giant swastika and hammer and sickle magnets on a chalkboard and screaming "THESE ARE THE SAME THING" and thinking "Jesus, he's doing the McBain joke, only he's deathly serious."

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

That's the whole basis of horseshoe theory; try and discredit the left by falsely associating them with far-right regimes.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Libluini posted:

I've read a story like that. The Nazis managed to ally themselves to a spirit of pure entropy, a being capable of eating even information. It magicked all the Nazis' enemies to death and then hosed off, leaving the Nazis in control of the planet. For a while. Then the stars started going out. Oops!

The first laundry files book?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

PittTheElder posted:

That's the whole basis of horseshoe theory; try and discredit the left by falsely associating them with far-right regimes.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
Verbinski adapating GRRM is cool; but it being on Netflix seems suspect.

(I figure this is the GRRM megathread and felt like posting that)

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
The last gurm adaptation on netflix was very meh and forgettable.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

The obvious route to me if you want to do "alternate history where the Nazis win" is that either the Business Plot succeeds or they just do another one later

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

emanresu tnuocca posted:

The last gurm adaptation on netflix was very meh and forgettable.

There was a GRRM adaptation on Netflix? What?

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Nightflyers. It was ok, but a bit slow.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



jsoh posted:

theres a comic book about the holocaust being a massive ritual to summon the nordic pantheon of gods to win the war for the nazis, but then other people start doing heinous poo poo to get their gods to show up and the war shifts to being the gods of every where destroying every thing and humanity desperate to get rid of them. and the nazis lose

This sounds cool as hell. What's the title? Is it worth reading in full?

Speaking of alt history stuff that plays up the possibility of Nazis messing with occult stuff and that fact eventually loving everybody over I always really liked this one:

http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Just to butt in by William Shire’s stuff about WWII and the Nazis is woefully out of date.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

Mat Cauthon posted:

This sounds cool as hell. What's the title? Is it worth reading in full?

Speaking of alt history stuff that plays up the possibility of Nazis messing with occult stuff and that fact eventually loving everybody over I always really liked this one:

http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm

it's called the life eaters and I remember it being rad but that was a long time ago. IIRC it was like all loving gorgeous paintings for the art

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

MoaM posted:

Verbinski adapating GRRM is cool; but it being on Netflix seems suspect.

(I figure this is the GRRM megathread and felt like posting that)

I mean Sandkings is a good story and basically a hybrid of Gremlins/American Psycho, written well before either. Honestly it should be a layup to make a half-decent version, and even on a Netflix budget.

I really hope they let Verbinski go more lurid and crazy in the set design. I want colors, wacky architecture, and generally that sticky orange feeling of an issue of Heavy Metal Magazine. If the set design is bare white walls or anything remotely sterile I'm not even going to bother.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hbo-developing-three-more-game-of-thrones-spinoffs-nymeria-flea-bottom-the-sea-snake

quote:


One of the projects, working title 9 Voyages, is from Rome creator Bruno Heller and follows Lord Corlys Velaryon, a.k.a. The Sea Snake, the Lord of the Tides and head of House Velaryon.

A second project, working title 10,000 Ships, revolves around the warrior queen Princess Nymeria, a revered ancestor of House Martell who founded of the kingdom of Dorne

The third project is set in the notorious King's Landing slum of Flea Bottom – the maze of tight streets in the capitol city where characters like Davos Seaworth and Gendry Baratheon were born.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(
I was about to watch Justice league, read that the bad guy is Mance Rayder. Went to check something and saw that he only appeared for 5 episodes in the show. What a drat disgrace.

Tbh don't remember ALL he does in the books, but i remember liking his character. And that's before his bizare book 5 plotline.

A Time To Chill
Feb 26, 2007

lol

https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking/status/1372584865686814722?s=20

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Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

He can finally go back to having excuses for never writing, instead of pretending to write (but never actually writing)

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