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TK-42-1 posted:There’s something iconic about that look. If they changed it people would want them to go back because it ‘feels wrong’ Yeah, like how fighter jets never looked better then when they were all shiny steel and big black buzz numbers on the side. 
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Yeah, like how fighter jets never looked better then when they were all shiny steel and big black buzz numbers on the side. 
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Mar 20, 2021 02:29
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Yeah, like how fighter jets never looked better then when they were all shiny steel and big black buzz numbers on the side. Accurate, but you didn't pick the best paint scheme OR nose.  It even applies to heavies! 
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Mar 20, 2021 03:14
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Mar 20, 2021 03:20
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I wonder if we can get a Green New Deal rider to incentivize that paint scheme on the basis of weight/fuel efficiency. No, I don't care if whatever varnish they use is heavier than regular paint or if bare metal causes increased maintenance costs, shut up.
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Mar 20, 2021 03:21
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Wingnut Ninja posted:The trick to making it a career is obviously to stay in long enough to be the one doing the pissing. "Franks also told his subordinates to push their units faster during the invasion. He did not realize his tracking software was zoomed out so their progress appeared stalled on the big board"
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Mar 20, 2021 03:37
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Wingnut Ninja posted:The trick to making it a career is obviously to stay in long enough to be the one doing the pissing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI
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Mar 20, 2021 03:44
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Not gonna lie, I'd read a book about dumbasses in charge of pretty much anybody, except Sears cause I already know that one all too well.
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Mar 20, 2021 09:10
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I highly doubt two planes doing a coordinated strike is independent events with the same probability as two single plane strikes, but I have no idea what they were basing their estimates on, so I dunno if its a small brain or a galaxy brain take.
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Mar 20, 2021 11:40
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Xakura posted:I highly doubt two planes doing a coordinated strike is independent events with the same probability as two single plane strikes, but I have no idea what they were basing their estimates on, so I dunno if its a small brain or a galaxy brain take. Have a read https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/1372946122646433793
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Mar 20, 2021 11:43
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Yes, I saw that, but we aren't told what the unnamed underling is basing any of this on. (Obviously "1.0" is bunk, but let's say he meant high 90s) If it's a small target you're sending two planes with two bombs, then it's two independent events with probability dependent on CEP. And in our case two .5 gives .75 of at least one hit. But if the limiting factor is bomb load? Dora Farms were a complex they thought saddam might be, right? So say one plane is capable of destroying half the complex, two planes should be able to destroy all of it, giving this planner his "sure bet". Alternatively, (and now we might be entering "spherical cow" territory a bit), assume hostile air defence have a 50% chance of detecting your plane, but is only able to engage one target at a time. Then one plane has a 50% chance of getting through, two planes guarantees it.
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Mar 20, 2021 12:00
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Xakura posted:Yes, I saw that, but we aren't told what the unnamed underling is basing any of this on. (Obviously "1.0" is bunk, but let's say he meant high 90s) Calm down, Buzz
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Mar 20, 2021 15:06
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Vengarr posted:"Franks also told his subordinates to push their units faster during the invasion. He did not realize his tracking software was zoomed out so their progress appeared stalled on the big board" https://youtu.be/EemoOviEC74
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I wonder if we can get a Green New Deal rider to incentivize that paint scheme on the basis of weight/fuel efficiency. Part of the reason they stopped doing the bare metal was that, corrosion control issues aside, modern aircraft are made of too many different materials to look good unpainted.  It's not just shiny aluminum under the paint anymore.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:05
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They would fly eternal if they got shiny and chromed
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Not gonna lie, I'd read a book about dumbasses in charge of pretty much anybody, except Sears cause I already know that one all too well. Buckle up. Xakura posted:I highly doubt two planes doing a coordinated strike is independent events with the same probability as two single plane strikes, but I have no idea what they were basing their estimates on, so I dunno if its a small brain or a galaxy brain take. It's not. I don't know the specific math, but we do this sort of thing a lot and I absolutely do not believe that Moseley said it goes to 100%. The dude was a fighter pilot. Deciding when to use one missile vs two to enhance probably of kill was the fulcrum of his job for a decade. Xakura posted:Alternatively, (and now we might be entering "spherical cow" territory a bit), assume hostile air defence have a 50% chance of detecting your plane, but is only able to engage one target at a time. Then one plane has a 50% chance of getting through, two planes guarantees it. For the same reasons, nope. Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 20, 2021 |
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Mar 20, 2021 20:00
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E: Im dumb
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Mar 20, 2021 20:46
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Godholio posted:It's not. I don't know the specific math, but we do this sort of thing a lot and I absolutely do not believe that Moseley said it goes to 100%. The dude was a fighter pilot. Deciding when to use one missile vs two to enhance probably of kill was the fulcrum of his job for a decade. On the other hand, people will definitely use completely bullshit math and logic if their plan requires it in order to work. I don't know about this particular case, especially based off a one-line blurb, but I could easily imagine something along the lines of "to get a .9 Pd we would need four jets, but we can't spare four jets for it, so say it'll work with two".
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Mar 20, 2021 20:56
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Godholio posted:It's not. I don't know the specific math, but we do this sort of thing a lot and I absolutely do not believe that Moseley said it goes to 100%. The dude was a fighter pilot. Deciding when to use one missile vs two to enhance probably of kill was the fulcrum of his job for a decade. Not just the fulcrum, but the flanker and foxhound too!
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Wingnut Ninja posted:On the other hand, people will definitely use completely bullshit math and logic if their plan requires it in order to work. I don't know about this particular case, especially based off a one-line blurb, but I could easily imagine something along the lines of "to get a .9 Pd we would need four jets, but we can't spare four jets for it, so say it'll work with two". Sure (avoiding the JFACC vs UCC argument), but that's different than guaranteeing mission success. Way loving different. I think it's much more likely that the quote was grossly adjusted for that book, or that Franks is making poo poo up or misremembering. Edit: Here's a naked (current) Thunderbird 
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Mar 20, 2021 23:34
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They really need to take that thing out more often, it's covered in algae.
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Mar 21, 2021 03:05
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Kith posted:They really need to take that thing out more often, it's covered in algae. They parked it under a pine tree....
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Mar 21, 2021 03:13
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I think the unpainted birds look pretty cool
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Kith posted:They really need to take that thing out more often, it's covered in algae. Nature is healing, the birds of the sky nest with the moss of the land. Together they are stronger. Apart, well, they're still better than the F-35 lol.
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Mar 21, 2021 07:05
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Dudes keep leaving their ID cards lying around and their co-workers make sure they are easy to find. Super helpful, that's the military way.
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Mar 21, 2021 07:36
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Memento posted:Dudes keep leaving their ID cards lying around and their co-workers make sure they are easy to find. Super helpful, that's the military way. The hospital I worked with (ish) at Wainwright, if you left your ID card laying around the medics would put it in a cast for you. Whatever casting material they used, it was black...so naturally these were called pucks 
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Plenty of freezing, but the best was a id card holder glued to a hard drive magnet and thrown up into the non-drop ceiling of our IT cave. Is it on a light? Is it on the HVAC? Is it on the fire sprinkler pipes? Go get the big ladder from facility maintenance and find out!
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Mar 21, 2021 14:27
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My favorite method was to hand it to the person and tell them to watch their poo poo better. loving time vampires. People forget poo poo.
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Mar 21, 2021 14:38
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just make em do flutter kicks and pushups for 2 hours because a strong body means a strong mind good to go? Roger that *faaaarrrtttt* HOOAH
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Wasabi the J posted:My favorite method was to hand it to the person and tell them to watch their poo poo better. I can see doing that the first time. Or the second. After the fourth or fifth time - well, at least sticking it in a water bottle and freezing it means it can't get abused by someone else.
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I mean true, but you never know what someone might need their ID for at any given moment. The answer to why can't your joe sign his clothing record/counseling/get into MyPay/access TRICARE/access DEERS shouldn't be "funny joek," even temporarily. Your joke becomes even more "hilarious" when dude has to take hours to get a new one if it damages the little chip inside. In the guard that poo poo can take weeks cus there's like one person for the whole loving state. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 21, 2021 |
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I was in one of the most brain dead, immature, racist/sexist/homophobic communities the military has to offer and people having their CACs hosed with never happened. It isn't that hard. Multiple instances? Address it the appropriate way. That's all there is to it. It's ok to pretend you're a military professional now and then.
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Mar 21, 2021 17:21
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Yeah doing stuff that can gently caress up the chip is pretty lovely. We normally just hide it somewhere in the room. Same with coffee mugs that people leave out - I knew one guy who left his out so frequently he would just go straight to the freezer in the morning because that was usually where it ended up.
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I watched a sergeant throw a dude's CAC in the armory drill floor after a UA as a joke. It instantly turned and flew almost straight upwards and perfectly landed on a rafter. He had to go get a new CAC because they didn't have any ladders or a lift to get up that high, and it's probably still sitting up there. It wouldn't have been hilarious if we weren't on a federal installation with the only decent/fast DEERs office I've ever been to for him to replace it at within the hour.
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I'm down for clowning on fools btw. Just don't gently caress with people's things, period. I feel like that's just a base level stuff.
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Mar 21, 2021 18:11
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I worked in an office its not that hard to pull your cac when you walk away
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Mar 21, 2021 18:13
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PookBear posted:I worked in an office its not that hard to pull your cac when you walk away Pulling your cac in the office sounds like a good way to get fired.
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Sounds like y'all are just a bunch of fun hating fuddy duddies  first offense you just give them the card back, there's a two-day probationary period where that card is gonna go for a trip if it's lost again
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Sometimes I drew on them with a dry erase marker.
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